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Is it worth buying Dayz standalone yet? [With Developer responses]

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On 6/1/2016 at 1:31 PM, LeJudge said:

Have been going though forum for info on Dayz as I was recommended by work colleague about the game.. Was looking for an answer to whether or not I should purchase Arma II / Operation arrowhead > Dayz Mod to play .. or purchase the standalone. As someone who is just dipping my toes into Dayz, It is very disheartening to read continuous expressions of dismay over the stand alone game not meeting requirements, and over such a very long period. It doesn't make the newbie (myself) overly enthusiastic nor fill with confidence the wisdom of purchase. But however...

Having looked into the game, which is very impressive and seems like something I'd very much enjoy and immerse myself in, should I go with Standalone or Arma +Dayz Mod? It is very much important to me that I have ability to play off-line (as I work on off-shore oil industry.. away for 3 weeks at a time) and I'm suspecting that the Dayz Mod is the only way I can accomplish this.. Can someone clarify this for me please.. 

Very much appreciate any help on this. 

I own both. DayZ mod is somewhat buggy (nothing like SA), the user interface is not intuitive (C to stand?) and once you have the UI down the gameplay itself has a very high learning curve. It is also The. Best. Game. Ever. Developed. Period.

DayZ stand alone is what you would have if a steaming pile of s**t could drop a deuce. I bought the alpha at release, and I'm still waiting for the beta. I expect to continue waiting past 2019. 

I started with vanilla DayZ mod 4 years ago. It's like no other game I've ever played. I've killed thousands of players in other FPS games. It wasn't until I played DayZ that I murdered someone. Vanilla is all about survival. The zombies are simply the backdrop, a minor annoyance at worst. Its the other players you have to worry about.

I remember playing once, still on the coast and not having much luck with loot. I found myself opposite Skalinsky Island, and having never been there I decided to check it out. No loot to speak of, and after roaming around a while I swam back to shore. By the time I got there I was suffering hypothermia and starving (food, water and thermometer flashing), my vision gray and blurry from low health after repeated zombie attacks. Heading towards Electro, I saw a player with an assault rifle and pack go into a building. I had a Makarov (arguably the weakest gun in the game) with 3 rounds. I knew if I shot for the center of body mass he would take all three rounds then kill me with the rifle. I would have to score a head shot, but I was desperate. With sweaty palms and racing heart I trotted to the industrial building he had entered, hoping the pouring rain was masking the sound of my footsteps. When I entered the building he was right in front of me, grabbing some piece of loot of the floor. I shot him in the back of the head from 3 meters. In addition to the rifle he was carrying he had a M9, Alice pack with additional rifle and ammo, food and BLOOD BAGS, OMG 2 BLOOD BAGS. His presence here was something of a mystery. With all this gear why was he still on the coast? Why had he not moved inland, away from the teeming hordes of freshly spawned players, with their hunger and poverty? Had he returned to the coast to meet someone? Perhaps he came to loot medical supplies from the hospital in Electro? I would never know. This was before self-transfusion. I saw a player asking for blood, took a chance and met him in Electro. Again with sweaty palms and racing heart I approached the church. All went well as we gave each other transfusions and parted ways. Determined not to repeat the mistake of my victim, I began the trek inland, toward Stary and NWAF thinking, "Oh, man, this game ROCKS!"

 

Now there are additional mods, and I've moved on from vanilla. I like base building and AI raiding, so I play Epoch. There are several others, each with their own emphasis on particular aspects of gameplay. I'm sure you'll find something to your liking.

 

FYI, I don't know what the point of offline play would be, since it's the interaction with other players that is the spice of DayZ. 

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49 minutes ago, Captn said:

I FYI, I don't know what the point of offline play would be, since it's the interaction with other players that is the spice of DayZ. 

The reason why some like to be playing offline is to learn the map, build a base without someone just plan stealing everything you locate in a matter of time either by exploits or broken engine updates.

the next mode is to reduce the number of players greifing you while your on the coast, after death or getting killed in pvp. Exploiters and random campers.

I do agree some people just want to pve and have problems finding a good server. (they deserve an offline mode or a pve server) I respect that.

Buying the game today is only experiencing what is done, not promises of the past reports. Every thing should be taken down on the web, because we are no where near that point or maybe never be.

the game works, but expect tons of exploits, and tons of issues with the game client. They are repairing everything we are reporting as suggested by the devs.

Its still buyers beware your interacting with others in a hostile environment and never get attached to your gear.

 

I am a kos, pvp player so i do know where this player is coming from. I have some on our squad that do not want to pvp just pve.

 

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I played the Mod...and found the Infected to be annoying and poorly done (which is odd in a Zombie Apocalypse game) loot is just endless, and the graphics levels were simply crap.

The time I started getting bored with teaming up for some PVP is the time I started looking elsewhere.

I have played the SA Alpha Builds for a couple years now and I assure you that, IMHO, it is very much the real deal and (regardless of what you hear from certain others) you would be doing yourself a disservice if you did not give this ALPHA a chance.

Checking out YouTube streams of the .60 build should give you a good idea of its potential.

All you need (in addition to the Single Player Mode) is to wait for the LAN Server files and you can host LAN Bashes on the rig! (Just wishful thinking for now!)

Go for it! It does not cost a ton, it will only get better and bigger, and lastly, it can be whatever you want it to be.

As far as I am concerned....I have not seen a single hacker....I have never had a crash to desktop....I have a ton of fun in full servers and I have a great immersive experience on others that are empty.

I don't have a lot of time to play, but when I find time to pull up to my computer I am hard pressed to name other PC experiences that are just as interesting and immersive.

BUT... You will NOT be able to play this on a laptop unless it is a SERIOUS piece of hardware. I7, top-notch graphics chipset (or add-on adapter) and a good chunk of RAM. Others play on lesser rigs but I would personally go big on the rig. If you are lucky enough to have a proper berth where you can keep a PC then better yet!

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I've come to realize that a game like Day Z really needs to be finished and polished for it to deliver the experience it's meant to. The devs are solely concerned with the long term, which makes sense, but it also sort of defeats the purpose of playing alpha to begin with. The devs are not interested in making changes that improve your alpha playing experience. In fact, I had the most fun with the original release. At the moment melee combat is a complete wreck. They broke it a long time ago and never bothered to fix it. Logically it really makes no sense to play Day Z right now. This alpha never should have released. It was a cash grab. If anything it delayed the development of the game because they aren't working towards more profit now. They are just taking their sweet time delivering a product we paid for years ago. I came back recently, after starting and stopping several times, and I can finally say that I don't believe in this product anymore. If I could get a refund now and buy it again when it's ready I would. Day Z needs to earn my respect again because it's a joke right now. 

There are three glaring issues that have existed since the release that they haven't managed to fix, and I now honestly believe they aren't capable of fixing them.

1. When you are sprinting and try to jump over a small fence your character will frequently stop, crouch, and step over the fence slowly in the crouched position. This has existed from day one and has never been addressed. 

2. A lot of the time when you try to take out your weapon with the 1,2,3 hotkeys it won't work. You need to stop and hold the button for it to register. This sucks in combat situations.

3. Ladder deaths and character wipes are still a thing, and I suspect now that they ALWAYS will be. 

4. Combat in general sucks. Watching two players melee fight is like watching two chickens with their heads cut off fight. Hitboxes are broken and your weapons don't swing through where your cross-hair is aiming. 

5. Firearm combat isn't much better. The game is so sluggish and buggy that it pretty much always boils down to who sees who first. Flash bangs and Frag grenades are a joke. You are more likely to hurt yourself with them because they fly one foot in the air, freeze, then explode. 

Most of these issues are server related, and I don't think they will ever be fixed. They may be made slightly better, but we will always face these problems. They are inherent to the game's terrible foundation. Being a fan of Day Z standalone is synonymous with being gullible and stupid. The devs have their money. They don't care. If you can't see that you are both gullible and stupid. 

What the current Day Z experience boils down to: 

You run through a practically barren wasteland with hardly any loot to be found and no players in sight. After 4 hours of holding the w button you manage to get fully geared only to get a random black screen saying you are dead. But how did you die? Did a player shoot you? Did you run too fast? Who knows? This is Day Z. You just spent 4 hours of your life running through a basically empty, yet massive, game world collecting items that are now gone. Either rinse and repeat or play a better game. If you value your time I'd recommend something worth it. 

TL;DR: Playing Day Z is like playing a game that's in the middle of it's development in the worst possible way. All changes that they have implemented over the years have been to set the stage for future changes. None of their changes have actually improved player's experience with the game. But if this is the case, why is the game out at all? They are not concerned with delivering a playable experience. They hide behind their "this is an Alpha" disclaimer and develop their game they already got paid for at a snails pace. It's despicable really, and you shouldn't support them doing it. They are selfish. They don't care about you. They probably even laugh at you. If you watch the developer updates on youtube they have smug, condescending, attitudes. 

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This type of topic/question is kind of iffy.  Is it worth it?  Well yes, it is worth it for saving money but people unfortunately don't understand what early access/Alpha means and end up complaining about the game in the worst possible ways without any knowledge of what they are complaining about.  

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In 1996 I started playing Quake I the first nal online .... then QII / QIII followed. Each game cost me 49-60 $. These are the only games that have reached more game hours without additional costs Years "free2play" I prefer not to call numbers. $ 30 for a game with test access .. a nothing in contrast to skyrim which I stopped with 380 hours. Everyone can have their own opinion, but crying and hating does not bring the world any further. Even if DayZ is not as I imagine it ... it was worth its money .. at least more than what I have to pay for things from which I have nothing .... thinks times of what life costs what we do Never see what ... how much does your mobile phone cost per month?

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On 21.11.2016 at 9:03 PM, switchsl said:

Honest answer, no.   I went to the BI site and saw it's still for sale as an Early Access, but I believe the correct label should be Forgotten Failure.  Or The Neverending LULz.  Or Rocket's Golden Ticket to Something Better Scam.  Yeahhhhh.

It always annoys me to see people post stuff like that about Dayz, especially on the forums, when it's quite clear that the development is still going forward. And you can read all about it on the said forums.

https://forums.dayz.com/forum/134-developer-discussion-status-reports/

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10 minutes ago, Nixon Lennon said:

The development of Dayz SA is really slow. I bought it almost 3 years ago like thousands of other people just to support development.  The game brought millions of dollars which would help to complete the game in next months. And what we see now? After three fucking years? One guy is drawing a model of a radio player for several months. Where are my bases? Where are my vehicles? Where is the beta version? Three years ago I had tend to think that early access is temporary thing and in 2015 we'll see a full game. Okay, 2017. We are halfway to beta. Brilliant!

You blame the developers that you don't understand what game development is and made all kinds of assumptions about a release date, typical.

Just because certain stuff is not available to us yet does not mean it is not being worked on or their state of completion.

And with 2 posts, what did you do to help development?

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46 minutes ago, Nixon Lennon said:

The development of Dayz SA is really slow. I bought it almost 3 years ago like thousands of other people just to support development.  The game brought millions of dollars which would help to complete the game in next months. And what we see now? After three fucking years? One guy is drawing a model of a radio player for several months. Where are my bases? Where are my vehicles? Where is the beta version? Three years ago I had tend to think that early access is temporary thing and in 2015 we'll see a full game. Okay, 2017. We are halfway to beta. Brilliant!

Slow? In compared to what??

 

All the stuff u listed, they have already put a lot of work into. Even if they havent showed everything yet, we dont know how much we havent seen yet, i think its a lot of work we dont know about, that they have been working on behind closed doors and will be present when its time for it.

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There are too many threads, different videos on youtube, some standalone versions some with numerous mods. I cant understand after all, does current DayZ 0.61 Standalone version have following features or not:
1) Driveable vehicles;
2) Base Building (Basic Shelters, or Complex Structures?);
3) Dynamically Changing Weather( rain, wind, tornado etc.);
4) Servers with different rules (Role Play style servers?);

Thanks in advance for answer! 

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1 hour ago, Nodar Svanidze said:

There are too many threads, different videos on youtube, some standalone versions some with numerous mods. I cant understand after all, does current DayZ 0.61 Standalone version have following features or not:
1) Driveable vehicles;
2) Base Building (Basic Shelters, or Complex Structures?);
3) Dynamically Changing Weather( rain, wind, tornado etc.);
4) Servers with different rules (Role Play style servers?);

Thanks in advance for answer! 

1) Yes - Although currently disabled on Stable branch
2) Yes, basic camping style objects. Stone ovens, Camping Tents, Military Tents, Car Tents, Barrels for storage/tanning/fires, garden plots, with more to come in later builds.
3) Yes - no tornados though.
4) Yes, depending on how someone wants to run their privately operated server.

I'd recommend watching content creators like:

https://www.youtube.com/user/BarelyInfected
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBeavil
 

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Is DayZ worth buying? 

I played the ArmA2 Mod heavily back in the day. Countless hours. Had the time of my life. 

Every time I play the Stand Alone, it feels more and more like the mod, but with a level of detail I've never seen in a game. Like the mod... but different... When you interact with other players, get into a fire fight, ect. the old feeling is there. At it's current state in 2017, 3 years after the Alpha released, it is worth playing. Unfortunately it's taken this long to get here and that is the sad part. There have been major setback with development, but right now I could say it's looking much more positive. Are there still bugs? Is it still Glitchy? Well yeah, that's why they're still in alpha, they need to get that shit fixed. And whatever has been going on for the last three years is starting to pay off. If people can't wait another year for the game to finish, and they believe that 4 years is too much, then don't buy the game. For me? I'm good, plenty of other games to play. But I haven't played in a year, and I started playing again last week. I'm hooked again, loving it. 

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i just wanted to thank to the devs because being an unhappy player since 0.59 and i stopped playing last year because of work. but now i come back and see many changes and stuatus reports with updates and i decided to give it a go. new zombies are awesome, now you feel youre shooting real zombies, not some buggy minor annoyances. gunplay and melee combat somewhat needs to improve. it feels alot slow paced, and requires little reflexes or talent. new spawn of containers with loot and loot from zombies are some good ideas and pve play of the game is more reliable than before, but needs base building system completely integrated (like epoch mods). but coming after a year, i can say i like where this game is going despite my thoughts earlier, because player interaction was a thing (other than shoot on sight), and i think we will have better dayz when hits beta.

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The development of this game in my opinion is incredibly slow. I wouldn't advise anyone to buy it until it's finished. I wait with eager anticipation to see it complete.

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I love this game... LOVE LOVE LOVE IT!....   Buuuuuuuuut....  for some reason I get disconnected with error messages like crazy.  from the time the game loads up the server screen...KICKED WITH AN ERROR MESSAGE 0x00000000 could not read memory.  Then I manage to open it again and get past that page... now im connecting to a server...  just as my guy appears and I can hear zombies breathing...  BAM!  another error message,  similar to the first, only this time it has 0x007e0000 or something of the sort (constantly changing)... then, i cant see my mouse cursor, cant even use task manager.  I have to then log out and log back in to control my own machine.  Ive done all sorts of virus scans >nothing found.  My screen resolution shows up as an option although its a wonky one like 1768x992,  got a modern graphics card (gtx 960)  even got the nvidea exerience control panel helping connect the two, but, crash after crash...  like what the BEEP?  Im surprised I still have a screen  to be honest... the frustration this is causing me is pushing me to my breaking point  (and the things i can break are limited).  Im having difficulties finding a way to send error reports IN GAME  so this has lead me here.  Please  save me from the grey hair and cost i may incure due to smashing the B**P out of my B**PING MONITOR....  OR...    I WANT MY MONEY BACK!!!!!  

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1 hour ago, mulllex said:

 

I love this game... LOVE LOVE LOVE IT!....   Buuuuuuuuut....  for some reason I get disconnected with error messages like crazy.  from the time the game loads up the server screen...KICKED WITH AN ERROR MESSAGE 0x00000000 could not read memory.  Then I manage to open it again and get past that page... now im connecting to a server...  just as my guy appears and I can hear zombies breathing...  BAM!  another error message,  similar to the first, only this time it has 0x007e0000 or something of the sort (constantly changing)... then, i cant see my mouse cursor, cant even use task manager.  I have to then log out and log back in to control my own machine

 

Hey Mullex.. try deleting your DayZ folder in your Documents folder, then restart the game.. another step which seems to have helped some people is by going to C:Users/"Your Name as Admin on your PC"/AppData/DayZ/Local and delete the Files there.. can try Deleting files in Roaming folder as well possibly ( Make backups). You will still have crashes but less frequently hopefully.. if you start crashing more often again then repeat the process. Hope this helps and you don't need that refund :)

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If you have any knowledge on game development then yes it's worth buying but if you think that games are made in days, then don't bother wasting time with early access games nor wasting forum space posting about how long it takes.

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Do you Devs use the Trello anymore? There hasn't been ANYTHING posted on there in a long time... Is there nothing to post or... did you forget about it?? People like seeing progress on there too. Just a thought. No complaints here, I love the game and development.

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At the moment it is not worth it, if you would really try you could stay alive for weeks, but I don't think it is fun. Even if you don't try you can stay alive for a very long time when you learn how to play. But it is not that fun. True fun is interactions, to meet people, make friends, make enemies, get into battles.... countless variety of situations... But it is somehow no going on. 

I'd wait till it is real challenge to stay alive. As now you get bored, or realize that "nothing happened yet, I have to force something" and then start looking for action and you can't find it, you start just randomly search it and then you randomly die, if unlucky. It should be hard to stay away from the trouble, not getting into it.

I'm sure it can work in DayZ.

I'd just wait till price will get risen, it should indicate that it is finally really good. 

Core is pretty good right now, except of bugs, but you expect them in 0.6, but gameplay is quite poor.

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On 12/18/2013 at 10:25 AM, Blade4777980 said:

Is it worth buying Dayz standalone yet or should i wait for it to mature so it's less buggy and more playable??.

My 2 cents:

Simple answer: Still No...

Complicated answer: DayZ has been in development for like four years... Normally, a company would take something like this and develop to about where we are today within about six months to a year... Don't get me wrong, they're making progress and doing well with the game's direction....... But it feels like the DayZ dev team is just a handful of Bohemia devs getting together in their off time to work on DayZ, like Bohemia keeps their noses to the Arma grindstones, and they aren't allowed to work on DayZ during the work day... Either that, or Bohemia is really like twelve people, and they're desperately trying to produce games on Blizzard's level but absolutely positively refuse to hire any new people...

I know I shouldn't be so critical, especially since the newest big patch just dropped like a month and change ago... But it's been four years and they're still not even to Beta yet...

If I hadn't purchased DayZ (or, if Steam would've given me the refund I initiated a hundred times), I honestly wouldn't be playing it. I feel it was a complete and total waste of 30 bucks, so I'd best get my 30 bucks' worth out of it, etc... I just hope they don't expect us all to purchase the 1.0 version, since we've already fronted all this cash to them for Alpha access. Because I most definitely won't be paying money for DayZ 1.0; at their current rate, it will be 2020 before they're even considering finalizing the Beta, and by that time, there will be better games in this motif...

Is it fun? Yes.
Is it playable? Yes, though it's not without its bugs...
Is it a bucket of laughs? Sometimes...

Is it worth 30 bucks? NO.

15 tops in its current state... 30 bucks is what you pay for games released like a year or two ago, and were COMPLETE... Not four year-old incomplete WIP alpha mods...

Just my 2 cents...

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On 9/4/2016 at 7:33 PM, Solopopo said:

What the current Day Z experience boils down to: 

You run through a practically barren wasteland with hardly any loot to be found and no players in sight. After 4 hours of holding the w button you manage to get fully geared only to get a random black screen saying you are dead. But how did you die? Did a player shoot you? Did you run too fast? Who knows? This is Day Z. You just spent 4 hours of your life running through a basically empty, yet massive, game world collecting items that are now gone. Either rinse and repeat or play a better game. If you value your time I'd recommend something worth it.

I'd have to agree with this... This, coupled with b-hole players who just want to kill everyone they meet, coupled with random character wipes, bugs, 3-minute spawn time, the fact that your character is made of glass, et. al. make the game totally not worth 30 bucks the way it sits...

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Would you buy a Ford car? I wouldn't but there are people that will. Do you like chocolate ice-cream? I don't, some people love it. You will never know if it's any good until you try it yourself.

I love DayZ. No other game I have played gives the same physical, visual, oral and mental impact. Spotting a player while you are in a military location after you have survived and carry a week's worth of loot over hundreds of kilometres is quite simply heart stopping. The decision making, the planning, the daily tasks you give yourself, it's like a second life.

I bought the Stand-alone after searching for answers to "GTA5 or DayZ?". After two youtube videos I made my decision. Yes, there are bugs but even the multi-million pound releases from EA have bugs. People gripe about those all the time.

You want some cake? I can only tell you how good it is, you have to eat it yourself.

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