Stable Branch - 0.58 Discussion

[Slpy 10]

I tried the same thing and also observed that not much items are spawned in again. Did you try this on a low pop server? Was it on a private hive? There are some reports that some private hive servers currently have a problem with resapwning of loot.

 

The server I tried it on was a private hive and not exactly busy. Maybe the amount of picked up items is not high enough to trigger the actual respawning algorithm.

 

Another possibility is that this town is only populated again when other towns are picked clean. If the CLE works like this it would contribute towards the goal that the players should travel across the map and also the statement from a status report "if one town is empty try the next one" would match to this behavior we can observe.

 

It's a public server and it's relatively low pop, ranging from 5-10 people most of the time.

 

So if what you state about their goal of making people run from town to town holds true, I feel like it kind of works against base building, since you would like to be able to pick up loot relatively close to your base.

 

At least for me that's somewhat of a concern, since my base is in Tisy, which is really far up north, so it takes a while until I can find loot, even basic stuff, which makes it kind of a hassle to be sure.

[wasnu (DayZ) 392]

Not particularly complaining but I've been on one private since stable came out and haven't left the south coast. There's just enough food to keep me going, lots of random ammo, civilian pistols but mags are kind of scarce. Stuff is respawning but at a fairly slow rate, no where near as bad as the "broken" servers a few patches ago but you have to keep moving to survive off found food or use all the off grid food sources like fishtraps and farming.

 

It's actually a pretty good level for a pure survivor type to get out and explore although this survivor already got out saw the sights, bought the t-shit, etc. in exp.

 

The camp lag is bugging me and making me want to take a break until .59 so there's something new if the camps are still lagging. Running around squirling away bullets for guns I might find is fun and all but half an hour or more and numerous "session lost" to sort them at each end of my runs down the coast is getting kind of old.  

 

when exp. hits stable i always change my playstyle, get my gear and go to "hot" zones for killing hoppers.

 

after one or max. two weeks it gets boring and i take an break until an new exp. update comes in.

 

after that, i am mostly "calmed" down and will be the "nice guy" on exp.

 

so, lets hope .59 hits exp. soon.

[fing24 36]

Is it me, but every town i have been to has very little loot in it.  That is right across the map the coast is the worst of coarse with next to nothing.  It used to be once in land it was not so bad.  To be honest with no infected in the game it's not really an issue, but when they return it would make the game incredibly hard more so for a fresh spawn.  I had a spawn at svet and after looking through half the town I found about 10 items in total. And no weapons of any sort.  That would not be very good if the place was full of infected. And yes I have gone to the next town and the next and the next and none of them had much in them before you tell me that the devs said if nothing at the first goto the next. This is just my experience of the game so far I can guess some of you might have been having a different one.

[BCBasher 2465]

when exp. hits stable i always change my playstyle, get my gear and go to "hot" zones for killing hoppers.

 

after one or max. two weeks it gets boring and i take an break until an new exp. update comes in.

 

after that, i am mostly "calmed" down and will be the "nice guy" on exp.

 

so, lets hope .59 hits exp. soon.

 

I'm a creature of habit, I'm always an aimless survivor trying to get by not really interested in making friends but completely against making enemies.

 

Was set on doing a whole cycle in one private server but if I can't even hoard my low tier "treasures" without game breaking performance hits it's kind of taking the fun out of that.  

[bingo_fuel 205]

It's a public server and it's relatively low pop, ranging from 5-10 people most of the time.

 

So if what you state about their goal of making people run from town to town holds true, I feel like it kind of works against base building, since you would like to be able to pick up loot relatively close to your base.

 

At least for me that's somewhat of a concern, since my base is in Tisy, which is really far up north, so it takes a while until I can find loot, even basic stuff, which makes it kind of a hassle to be sure.

 

Maybe this is another trade off you have to make: your base is far away from other players and towns but you have to spend more time to get new stuff. Since the CLE is still under heavy development we most certainly will see more improvements in the future. 

[jayfkay (DayZ) 185]

Not particularly complaining but I've been on one private since stable came out and haven't left the south coast. There's just enough food to keep me going, lots of random ammo, civilian pistols but mags are kind of scarce. Stuff is respawning but at a fairly slow rate, no where near as bad as the "broken" servers a few patches ago but you have to keep moving to survive off found food or use all the off grid food sources like fishtraps and farming.

 

It's actually a pretty good level for a pure survivor type to get out and explore although this survivor already got out saw the sights, bought the t-shit, etc. in exp.

 

The camp lag is bugging me and making me want to take a break until .59 so there's something new if the camps are still lagging. Running around squirling away bullets for guns I might find is fun and all but half an hour or more and numerous "session lost" to sort them at each end of my runs down the coast is getting kind of old.  

 

Personally I have had one frustrating experience with it and since then just spread my loot out in small stashes with a 1km distance between them.

[BCBasher 2465]

Personally I have had one frustrating experience with it and since then just spread my loot out in small stashes with a 1km distance between them.

 

I shouldn't have to spread less than 100 items out over a km should I?

 

My 2 stashes are made of 3-4 small backpacks, the only thing I have left to try is not abusing fireplaces. You can put 12 items or 3 pistols in a fireplace and drag it into a bag on the ground. You can also put 12 items in a fireplace in hand or your backpack but they seem to get emptied on a relog but the ones on the ground work.  

[IMT 3190]

I see that too. I also saw in the tracker that it says" FIXED IN VERSION: .59 ...... ???? I really really hope they are not waiting tell then to deploy a fix :(

If they will then I might take that break. I am not going to have another 0.57 where there is not a lot to do when you're geared up except for PvP.

I cant. I compared my experience from experimental and from playing in public servers with the private ones. There's a clear difference between them.

Today i started play on a different private server. Found 6 guys total in my session(4 hours), in the following placaes: tent city, stary, NW airport, vybor and lopatino... None of them had weapons. When people that is way up north dont have a single weapon on their backs i think something is wrong.

And that's why i created the ticket https://feedback.dayz.com/view.php?id=27516

Funny that you call all these places way up north. Sinistok, Tisy, Stary Yar, Krasnoe, Kamensk, Novodmitrovsk, etc. these places I call way up north.

You're roaming in an high traffic area, go to these places I gave you and then we may discuss about a potentional bug.

But I agree on the part that private hives can differ from the public or even other private hives. So you might be right.

Not particularly complaining but I've been on one private since stable came out and haven't left the south coast. There's just enough food to keep me going, lots of random ammo, civilian pistols but mags are kind of scarce. Stuff is respawning but at a fairly slow rate, no where near as bad as the "broken" servers a few patches ago but you have to keep moving to survive off found food or use all the off grid food sources like fishtraps and farming.

It's actually a pretty good level for a pure survivor type to get out and explore although this survivor already got out saw the sights, bought the t-shit, etc. in exp.

The camp lag is bugging me and making me want to take a break until .59 so there's something new if the camps are still lagging. Running around squirling away bullets for guns I might find is fun and all but half an hour or more and numerous "session lost" to sort them at each end of my runs down the coast is getting kind of old.

I agree on the taking a break part. I rather take a break before I get really disappointed because the persistence and camps was the main reason I really was looking forward to this stable patch.

[sanguine00 168]

 

- when swapping weapons, weapons  from the back to the hand, the one in the hand goes to the ground

 

Yeah, the automatic swap was possible through most of 0.58 Experimental, right up until the last build or two.  I'm curious if it's a design decision because they figure it's more realistic to have to drop the weapon in your hands, or if they were concerned that the auto-swap was potentially causing glitches with the hands slot.

[MotleyKoop 45]

.58 is a piece of alpha-lore quality progress.

 

We got our... truck gauge that doesn't animate on the 1st person model,

 

Loot that respawns, sometimes in the strangest ways,

 

Lag based camp hunting,

 

And six zombies.

 

Yet somehow, I've already had more fun than ever on this game, because it's starting to actually feel like the simulator it's meant to be.

[ColdAtrophy 1850]

My guess is that this system does not, in practice, work out quite the same way on a lower traffic server as it does on a higher traffic one. On Exp., every day I noticed new items in places I had checked the day before. I think that's because the servers were staying full and players were picking items up all over the map, thereby causing loot to be redistributed all over the map. When there aren't many people playing other than server hoppers raping the military zones, you may find that the entire corner of the map where you've been playing for days is largely devoid of loot. That's what seems to be happening to the server my group rented on Friday. I'm gonna have to start up a second camp in another quadrant of the map and see what happens. 

[Thurman Merman 726]

when exp. hits stable i always change my playstyle, get my gear and go to "hot" zones for killing hoppers.

 

after one or max. two weeks it gets boring and i take an break until an new exp. update comes in.

 

after that, i am mostly "calmed" down and will be the "nice guy" on exp.

 

so, lets hope .59 hits exp. soon.

A man after my own heart.  I laid in the trees E of the Quonset hut @ Myshinko a few days ago on a low pop server and murdered 7 hoppers.  Felt good.  :D

[ColdAtrophy 1850]

A man after my own heart.  I laid in the trees E of the Quonset hut @ Myshinko a few days ago on a low pop server and murdered 7 hoppers.  Felt good.   :D

 

Brb. Have to get a forklift.

 

[Killawife 599]

I haven't had any problems finding stuff actually. Sure, no machineguns and not a lot of ammo for guns but surviving isn't a problem. But, there's so little stuff in large towns that its pointless to go there. And theres no people anywhere but the "hot spots" and there everybody shoots first and asks questions later, or never. Its boring. 0.57 wasn't perfect in any regard but it was way more fun than this. And i'm not the kind of player that sits in a house in cherno all day waiting for someone to shoot, I move all over the map but its just empty of people. Yesterday was the first time I actually met more than one person at a time since the patch came out.  I've even tried going all the way from Berezino to Balota down the coast just to meet some people. Saw two, one ran away and one followed me all the way to kamy where I could finally get rid of him. He was quite annoying.

 I can't see the fun in this patch, I don't know why.

[The Riddler (DayZ) 410]

 

 

The camp lag is bugging me and making me want to take a break until .59 so there's something new if the camps are still lagging. Running around squirling away bullets for guns I might find is fun and all but half an hour or more and numerous "session lost" to sort them at each end of my runs down the coast is getting kind of old.  

 

I feel you. Its the same for me. I even got a few instances today where my barrel that I was closest too did not spawn in. It literally wasn't there but I ran away "X" amount of meters, came back and it was there. A few times when it happened, I would start to run away and get "session lost" before I had a chance to turn around :(

 

Personally I have had one frustrating experience with it and since then just spread my loot out in small stashes with a 1km distance between them.

 

I'm going to have to spread out my stuff further than it is IF I can manage to get it all out of my barrel(s) so I can then pick up my barrel(s).

 

My 2 stashes are made of 3-4 small backpacks, the only thing I have left to try is not abusing fireplaces. You can put 12 items or 3 pistols in a fireplace and drag it into a bag on the ground. You can also put 12 items in a fireplace in hand or your backpack but they seem to get emptied on a relog but the ones on the ground work.  

 

My stash is 1 yellow barrel, & 2 green barrels seperated roughly by about 100 - 150 meters. I also have a truck about 10 meters from the yellow barrel. I lost my glow plug so I have not been able to move my truck today :(. I really want to move it so I can see if the distance I have between my barrels allows for normal gameplay. 

[BCBasher 2465]

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My stash is 1 yellow barrel, & 2 green barrels seperated roughly by about 100 - 150 meters. I also have a truck about 10 meters from the yellow barrel. I lost my glow plug so I have not been able to move my truck today :(. I really want to move it so I can see if the distance I have between my barrels allows for normal gameplay. 

 

If your truck is on any kind of hill and you really want to move it shoot out all the tires with something bigger than a 22 and it'll slide off like a dead body until it lodges against something solid.

 

It'll respawn with new tires at the next reset.

[S3V3N 1402]

If your truck is on any kind of hill and you really want to move it shoot out all the tires with something bigger than a 22 and it'll slide off like a dead body until it lodges against something solid.

 

It'll respawn with new tires at the next reset.

It will also respawn turned to the north as all vehicles seem to do now. Pretty annoying when you park safely at night and the next day the truck is stuck in a tree. Can be useful though, if you keep it in mind. But yeah - are there fewer glowplugs than in Exp? I find loads of batteries, but rarely a spark plug now. 

[BCBasher 2465]

It will also respawn turned to the north as all vehicles seem to do now. Pretty annoying when you park safely at night and the next day the truck is stuck in a tree. Can be useful though, if you keep it in mind. But yeah - are there fewer glowplugs than in Exp? I find loads of batteries, but rarely a spark plug now. 

 

 

The turned truck is a pain in the ass if you go through the trouble of backing into that little summer camp in the north east for the night.

 

As far as I know glow plugs are more rare and I haven't seen a lot of tire repair kits either, up to my ass in batteries and gas cans though.  

[jayfkay (DayZ) 185]

I shouldn't have to spread less than 100 items out over a km should I?

 

My 2 stashes are made of 3-4 small backpacks, the only thing I have left to try is not abusing fireplaces. You can put 12 items or 3 pistols in a fireplace and drag it into a bag on the ground. You can also put 12 items in a fireplace in hand or your backpack but they seem to get emptied on a relog but the ones on the ground work.  

You shouldnt have to of course, but such are the circumstances at the moment. On a positive note, when spreading out my shit further today to not give away my camp position to unsuspecting bypassers, I suddenly stumbled upon a peaceful deer herd right behind a couple of big oaks, just sitting there eating. I was right next to them.

Now I have about 24 tanned leather.

 

My guess is that this system does not, in practice, work out quite the same way on a lower traffic server as it does on a higher traffic one. On Exp., every day I noticed new items in places I had checked the day before. I think that's because the servers were staying full and players were picking items up all over the map, thereby causing loot to be redistributed all over the map. When there aren't many people playing other than server hoppers raping the military zones, you may find that the entire corner of the map where you've been playing for days is largely devoid of loot. That's what seems to be happening to the server my group rented on Friday. I'm gonna have to start up a second camp in another quadrant of the map and see what happens. 

 

 

Yes Watson, you are not supposed to stay in the same place in 58 if you want to survive or aquire new loot. CLE is not supposed to respawn shit right on your ass to make it nice and cozy for your campsite.

And yes Watson, more people picking stuff up means stuff will respawn more quickly. Congrats, you can count to two.

And yeah, assuming your server is working properly and assuming you are in the NW corner of the map, its likely that indeed the SW, SE and NE corners now have all the loot you might want and need.

Reverse player progression if you will - back to the coast with ya.

 

I feel you. Its the same for me. I even got a few instances today where my barrel that I was closest too did not spawn in. It literally wasn't there but I ran away "X" amount of meters, came back and it was there. A few times when it happened, I would start to run away and get "session lost" before I had a chance to turn around :(

 

 

I'm going to have to spread out my stuff further than it is IF I can manage to get it all out of my barrel(s) so I can then pick up my barrel(s).

 

My stash is 1 yellow barrel, & 2 green barrels seperated roughly by about 100 - 150 meters. I also have a truck about 10 meters from the yellow barrel. I lost my glow plug so I have not been able to move my truck today :(. I really want to move it so I can see if the distance I have between my barrels allows for normal gameplay. 

Try relogging frequently. It really helped a great deal for me. I couldnt seem to pick anything up, so I just dragged something into my inventory, relogged and it was there. Should also work for multiple items. I did it for backpacks. Also a 1000 meters is almost mandatory I think. Stuff in a smaller radius adds up and things stay bad. Been there, done that. So thats a clear no to the last sentence.

[bingo_fuel 205]

Does the "camp in proximity=lag" bug occur every time? I just was on a server (private hive) with hardly any loot. Most towns I searched were completely empty. Then I took a rather unusual route and stumbled over a huge camp with everything you need. I did not notice any delay at all even though multiple full barrels and backpacks were positioned within a few meters.

[ColdAtrophy 1850]

The turned truck is a pain in the ass if you go through the trouble of backing into that little summer camp in the north east for the night.

 

As far as I know glow plugs are more rare and I haven't seen a lot of tire repair kits either, up to my ass in batteries and gas cans though.  

 

The tire repair kit doesn't work anymore anyway. It did in Exp. Not sure what happened there.

[HarryPotter (DayZ) 172]

Is the constant hand shaking thing a bug?? I have no cold status and just stood by 2 fires until I got the 'my face is melting' and 'I'm rapidly' warming up messages... Went for a run... Ate and drank till stuffed and still got hand shaking??

[Shooter503 1]

It will also respawn turned to the north as all vehicles seem to do now. Pretty annoying when you park safely at night and the next day the truck is stuck in a tree. Can be useful though, if you keep it in mind. But yeah - are there fewer glowplugs than in Exp? I find loads of batteries, but rarely a spark plug now. 

 

I was freaking out the other day because I looked high and low and never found a glow plug or battery and then all of the sudden I found two of each, now I can't find a damn truck to put them in. WHY ME!?

[Rammit (DayZ) 153]

Maybe it is just the server I am on, but after 40 hours in this patch, I still haven't found a glow plug (vicinity search every shed and garage I come across), and I also haven't seen any crash sites, or tents.

 

Lot of guns, ballistic vests, press vests, and backpacks, though...

[Tonyeh 454]

Do those apartment buildings actually spawn anything? Or are they a waste of time? I've yet to find anything in them.