Zeds are NOT zombies; just a small FYI

[barnabus 1708]

The zeds in DayZ are more like the ones in this movie;

 

or these

 

They are not at all like the zeds in Walking Dead or Night of the Living Dead or Maggie.  There is no "necroambulist virus" in DayZ.

Edited May 24, 2015 by Barnabus

[☣BioHaze☣ 7337]

Yeeeep.

 

But people will always come into DayZ without READING about it first and assume that the generic undead zombie is what DayZ has and that is why I use the term infected often alongside the term zombie to try to draw some distinction while we have the "grand conversation that is DayZ dev".

[applejaxc 2500]

As above. It's why people use the term "infected" a lot and avoid explicitly saying "zombies." Unfortunately no one enjoys a good, old-fashioned, slow zombie story anymore except TellTale Games.

[Rags! 1966]

They should be more like the Zeds here. 

 

 

Then we'd cooperate, alright. 

[Red_Ensign 990]

nobody would buy DayI.

[freethink 984]

People should look into voodoo and the origins of zombies before they start lecturing people. The whole coming back from the dead thing is a fictionalization of a real thing where people appeared to be dead but weren't. They were just drugged.

 

imo the people saying zombies are the dead come to life are the one's who are misinformed. The original zombies were humans drugged to appear in a coma and then later to basically be brain dead.  Vice did a good doc on 'Colombian Devil's Breath' http://www.vice.com/video/colombian-devil-s-breath-1-of-2- That's part of the origins on zombies. Voodoo just used different but similar drugs (derived from puffer fish if i remember correctly.)

 

What annoys me is people wanting to narrow the definition of zombie to the undead when that's just one of many fictional definitions.

 

Someone walking around with no higher brain functions is a zombie imo. It doesn't matter how they got that way so stop lecturing us about it. Please.

 

[Just general comment, not directed specifically at the op]

 

Here you go btw:

The ethnobiology of voodoo zombification

http://scienceblogs.com/neurophilosophy/2007/09/13/the-ethnobiology-of-voodoo-zom/

Edited May 24, 2015 by freethink

[BeefBacon 1185]

Don't the devs sometimes refer to them as zombies? The terms are interchangeable.

[freethink 984]

Don't the devs sometimes refer to them as zombies? The terms are interchangeable.

 

They do but there's a school of thought that thinks if they didn't die first then they aren't proper zombies. And they keep on informing us about it like it's some sort of divine knowledge. And it's bs based on a myth that became a fiction.

[☣BioHaze☣ 7337]

People should look into voodoo and the origins of zombies before they start lecturing people. The whole coming back from the dead thing is a fictionalization of a real thing where people appeared to be dead but weren't. They were just drugged.

 

imo the people saying zombies are the dead come to life are the one's who are misinformed. The original zombies were humans drugged to appear in a coma and then later to basically be brain dead.  Vice did a good doc on 'Colombian Devil's Breath' http://www.vice.com/video/colombian-devil-s-breath-1-of-2- That's part of the origins on zombies. Voodoo just used different but similar drugs (derived from puffer fish if i remember correctly.)

 

What annoys me is people wanting to narrow the definition of zombie to the undead when that's just one of many fictional definitions.

 

Someone walking around with no higher brain functions is a zombie imo. It doesn't matter how they got that way so stop lecturing us about it. Please.

 

[Just general comment, not directed specifically at the op]

 

Here you go btw:

The ethnobiology of voodoo zombification

http://scienceblogs.com/neurophilosophy/2007/09/13/the-ethnobiology-of-voodoo-zom/

 

 

Yup.

 

I've posted about this at length before as well.

 

I know my zambees.

 

[shinjuru 114]

Even your use of the word Zed refers to Zombie.   I'm not quite sure why people dislike the word Zombie.  Everyone in DayZ knows exactly what people are referring to when the word Zombie is used.   These Zombies in-game are obviously infected.   Even the Crazies in your video are clearly more human than the Zombies in-game.   I'm not understanding the importance of why this is an issue.

[SaveMeJebus 164]

As said before even the devs have referred to them as zombies many times ... get over it.

[barnabus 1708]

Even your use of the word Zed refers to Zombie.   I'm not quite sure why people dislike the word Zombie.  Everyone in DayZ knows exactly what people are referring to when the word Zombie is used.   These Zombies in-game are obviously infected.   Even the Crazies in your video are clearly more human than the Zombies in-game.   I'm not understanding the importance of why this is an issue.

In the early stages of the illness in "The Crazies" there is still some cognitive function.  In the later stages, however, you see the same man who burned down his house with his wife and children inside in the jailhouse being more like what we have in DayZ.   As players, we have no idea what went before we washed ashore in Chernarus.  Even in the Zombie film "Maggie" the infected are not zombies until they go through "the turning".  They are not zombified  in the what? 10-12 second they were in "WWZ", in "Maggie" it takes weeks.

 

It's not that it is all that important but I have seen people posting in these forums wanting zeds to be only killed with a head shot.  Those folks don't seem to understand, like you contend, that "everyone knows exactly what people are referring to when the word zombie is used".  Everyone does not and the proof is here in the forums.

 

There is a school of thought in Linguistic Anthropology that shows the false implications of words leads to misunderstanding.  Such as storing "empty fuel cans" in an area marked for the storage of empty cans.  There was actually a huge fire caused in such a case when someone flung a cigarette butt into an area so marked.  Yes the cans were empty of fuel, but the fuel isn't what is flammable, it's the fumes and vapor that were still present in the "empty" fuel cans.  In reality, although the fuel cans had no fuel in them they were not "empty", in this case, empty did not equate with safe.  Here's a link if you want to know some more about that.

 

http://bado-shanai.net/Fairy%20Tales/fataSapirWhorf.htm

 

BTW, in several films such as "Night of the Living Dead", "Maggie" and "28 Days Later" to name a few no one ever even uses the word "Zombie".  If you didn't know "necroambulist" is Latin for, literally dead walking or better know as "Walking Dead"

 

Words have meaning.

 

People should look into voodoo and the origins of zombies before they start lecturing people. The whole coming back from the dead thing is a fictionalization of a real thing where people appeared to be dead but weren't. They were just drugged.

 

imo the people saying zombies are the dead come to life are the one's who are misinformed. The original zombies were humans drugged to appear in a coma and then later to basically be brain dead.  Vice did a good doc on 'Colombian Devil's Breath' http://www.vice.com/video/colombian-devil-s-breath-1-of-2- That's part of the origins on zombies. Voodoo just used different but similar drugs (derived from puffer fish if i remember correctly.)

 

What annoys me is people wanting to narrow the definition of zombie to the undead when that's just one of many fictional definitions.

 

Someone walking around with no higher brain functions is a zombie imo. It doesn't matter how they got that way so stop lecturing us about it. Please.

 

[Just general comment, not directed specifically at the op]

 

Here you go btw:

The ethnobiology of voodoo zombification

http://scienceblogs.com/neurophilosophy/2007/09/13/the-ethnobiology-of-voodoo-zom/

 

This, however, is not the popular or current definition of the word "Zombie".  Talk about narrowing down the definition?  Holy cow, my friend, you sure did, first you argue it's voodoo then you argue it isn't .  Which is it? 

 

Here is a link to dictionary.com and their definition for the word zombie.

 

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/zombie

 

and here in the Oxford Dictionary

 

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/zombie

Edited May 25, 2015 by Barnabus

[odin_lowe 3686]

Even your use of the word Zed refers to Zombie.   I'm not quite sure why people dislike the word Zombie.  Everyone in DayZ knows exactly what people are referring to when the word Zombie is used.   These Zombies in-game are obviously infected.   Even the Crazies in your video are clearly more human than the Zombies in-game.   I'm not understanding the importance of why this is an issue.

The Z in DayZ refers to "zero", as in DayZero. The first time ever when you used to spawn in Chernarus, back in 2012, the first thing you saw was probably the shore, and something like :Kamyshovo, Chernarus, Day 0. Since Dean loved the "zombie" genre, he probably used DayZ as an acronym for both Day Zero and Day of the Zombie...

 

The only way to really clear this up would be to ask him personally, but in the end it can mean anything to anyone, it doesn't really matters. 

[freethink 984]

Talk about narrowing down the definition?  Holy cow, my friend, you sure did, first you argue it's voodoo then you argue it isn't .  Which is it? 

 

 

 

You miss the point which is they are all different types of zombies. It doesn't matter if they came back from the dead or not. To say they aren't is pedantic imho.

[pilgrim* 3514]

  I don't know what the hell they are but yesterday they ate my damn raincoat.

  They aint friendly.

[Steak and Potatoes 13480]

10/10 Would read thread again.

 

[slippery gypsy 107]

Seems like people are really making it stretch to keep the forum active 

[8bit_Survivor 93]

As far as I am concerned Zeds, Zombies or Infected are all acceptable names when referring to DayZ infected.No clue where Zambie came from...only ever heard Puhdado call them that and I'm not sure why.

Edit: As stated previouslY the original term zombie did not refer to undead. George Romero changed the popular definition of zombie.

Edited May 30, 2015 by 8bit_Survivor

[emuthreat 2837]

I like to draw a distinction between zombies and infected by their behavior, and whether or not the infection is transmissible by contact alone, or if death must occur before "zombification."  Both the living dead, and infected may be regarded as zombies in most circumstances.

 

 When I think about zombies, I see hoards of slow-moving, shuffling, barely aware humanoids that will single-mindedly stagger to pursue any stimulus, and indiscriminately eat any normal animals.  When I think about infected, I picture more aware, and faster moving individuals that rush to shred anything that moves.

 

With the classic Night of the Living Dead, and then in Return of the Living Dead, people long dead would rise from the grave, In some cases craving brains to soothe the pain of being dead. In the walking dead universe, everyone is infected, but only those who die will become zombies.  With WWZ, the infection is contracted by contact, and quickly causes zombification.  The Rage virus of 28 Days later lore will result in less quick zombification of those infected, also without causing death. 

 

All living dead are zombies, all zombies are infected, but not all zombies are living dead, and not all infected are zombies.

 

Still waiting for that open world zombie apocalypse game that features thousands of slow-moving walking dead, who subtly react to even the slightest perceptins of activity, making for a play experience much more like an RTS game than a simple FPS.  State of Decay got halfway there, with stealthy searching, supply demands, and survivor rescue missions, but lost their course with the convoluted mutants, especially the bloaters and screamers.  I really liked how after about 20 hours of gameplay, I stopped sneaking around without ever using an unsurpressed gun, and began to pop off a couple .357 rounds on the outskirts of town, to draw away most of the zeds before I got to looting. In DayZ, if you can manage to light a flare or glowstick inside a building and get away clean, that should attract all of the zombies within range to that building, letting you have the run of the other parts of town.

 

Edit:  The WWZ virus, Solanum, described in the ZSG, was said to work by shutting down all organs and replicating functions on a cellular level.  While this is technically death, it would not be readily apparent to an observer.

Edited May 30, 2015 by emuthreat

[NomadZ 33]

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Edited June 7, 2015 by NomadZ

[ebrim 998]

I'd like to give the infected/zombies/whatever guns. Not all of them but at least some of them like in Stalker. The zombies in Stalker were just mind melted but retained some basic skills, I feel like DayZ zeds could be similar. Plus, people would take gun wielding zeds a bit more seriously. Brain scorched, infected, re-animated corpse, drugged up victim, they're all zombies to me.

[sneakydudes 278]

The zeds in DayZ are more like the ones in this movie;

 

or these

 

They are not at all like the zeds in Walking Dead or Night of the Living Dead or Maggie.  There is no "necroambulist virus" in DayZ.

LOL no such thing as Zeds. but I agree with steak

10/10 for reading thread.

 

 

10/10 Would read thread again.

 

Spoiler

 

[agouti 105]

This is a very clear example of "Do Not Use Z Word"

 

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NotUsingTheZWord

 

 

I mean, you weak up in an eastern european country with mindless insanely strong half dead aggressive humans seemingly haven taken over the world.

 

Better not call them zombies!

 

People use the words they know.

[Deathlove 2286]

Yeeeep.

 

But people will always come into DayZ without READING about it first and assume that the generic undead zombie is what DayZ has and that is why I use the term infected often alongside the term zombie to try to draw some distinction while we have the "grand conversation that is DayZ dev".

 

Its like "Hey lets try dayz its got some cool infected in it!"

 

Other person "COOL! Do they actually infect you?!"

 

Me "No they have some kind of pyron disease that makes them act semi retarded with impaired motor skills and they don't infect you what so ever."

 

Other person "So basically were fighting semi retarded ppl is what your saying?"

 

Me "Well i never thought about it but i guess your kind of right......"

 

Other person "Wow.....that sounds really fucking lame......"

 

Me "Yeah......yeah it is........"

 

This isn't necessarily bad mouthing the game in general its just the whole "NO ONE CAN GET INFECTED" idea that really makes it silly to me. Now i would LIKE to think they are more along the lines of 28 Days Latter rather than the Crazies. With the Crazies they could still operate guns, machinery and other things. These ones we have right now are more like blood thirsty apes or some other kind of animal. I wasn't a fan of the whole Crazies concept anyways. Now if they added in some mutations to make these zeds more lethal id be all for that to be honest.

Edited May 30, 2015 by Deathlove

[☣BioHaze☣ 7337]

-snip-

 

Other person "COOL! Do they actually infect you?!"

 

-snip-

 

 

Correct answer: YES. When you get hit by them or interact with them too much you can have a whole host of real world infections.