What's the current hacking status like in DayZ:SA?

[blacklabel79 949]

we had our first obvious hacker in NOVOD...friend calls out "freshy behind the house" and get uncouncious and his gear starts to get removed...as i stroll downstairs i also get uncouncious BUT seemingly dident had anything that dude wanted....

 

ah well...

[newguyzombie 122]

not a hack, but also the ammo glitch isnt fixed anymore with .46 as it was with .45

 

nearly every m4 unlimited ammo.

 

splitting of hacked ammo works agian.

 

i thought it was fixed.

Edited July 7, 2014 by newguyzombie

[Irish. 4886]

"..and if you folks will kindly take a look off to the left, you will see an avatar that is known for predicting the future.. and that concludes our tour of the DayZ forum lots, thank you folks and have a great day!"

 

And just to be on topic, hackers/cheaters/exploiters will all be an issue for a while. Stay out of high pop servers that are non-official, in fact dont ever join a non-official server just as a rule, then dont join high pop servers and run to berezino thinking your gonna get into some action because hackers are thinking the exact same thing. 

Edited July 7, 2014 by lrish

[Wexoch 6]

Oh wow, so many haters on berenzino. Look man, this game is in alpha and there are numerous reasons why my friends and I enjoy a high amount of contact in places like Berenzino where it's also easy to meet up with friends. We don't mind the bandits, the dupers, the glitching, but the hacking is insane and game breaking.

 

Ofcourse we can go west and we won't meet hackers theres, but we won't meet anyone there and that ain't fun for us.

[BadAsh (DayZ) 1513]

Please guys, it is Berezino, not Berenzino.

[EvilTigerAce 131]

It's a bug, wall-glitching.

 

I used it a lot.

 

Used.

 

It's really stupid imho.

Edited July 7, 2014 by EvilTigerAce

[kimosabbi 48]

Aren't you able to snipe into police station from the various high points around the area? (Factory at the shore for example)

 

Getting punched out after killing that sniper could have very easily been desync.

 

I'm not saying it was desync, but it was desync.

 

[Grimey Rick 3417]

Stopped reading at Berenzino.

[Accolyte 1727]

The hacks are back... Just had 3 incidents in ~5hours of Dayz in 2 different servers with our group of 4.

In 1 incident we were with 2 people inside the police station, camping both doors, when suddenly we were both killed by mosin shots through the walls. This was in Server 1

 

Well I don't believe that. Wallhacks allow you to *see* through walls. Not *shoot* through walls. The only way to shoot through walls (do correct me if I'm wrong) was if you messed around with your .pbo files and that gets you banned pretty much as soon as you connect to a server. One of my junior colleagues actually got busted this way, not knowing the BE update was out.

 

Both of your stories sound a bit sketchy to be perfectly honest.

[EvilTigerAce 131]

Well I don't believe that. Wallhacks allow you to *see* through walls. Not *shoot* through walls. The only way to shoot through walls (do correct me if I'm wrong) was if you messed around with your .pbo files and that gets you banned pretty much as soon as you connect to a server. One of my junior colleagues actually got busted this way, not knowing the BE update was out.

 

Both of your stories sound a bit sketchy to be perfectly honest.

 

This! :)

 

Wallhacking =>

 

[Wexoch 6]

Well I don't believe that. Wallhacks allow you to *see* through walls. Not *shoot* through walls. The only way to shoot through walls (do correct me if I'm wrong) was if you messed around with your .pbo files and that gets you banned pretty much as soon as you connect to a server. One of my junior colleagues actually got busted this way, not knowing the BE update was out.

 

Both of your stories sound a bit sketchy to be perfectly honest.

 

As far as I know there's 3 ways to shoot through walls:

1)I believe there's a way to bug your weapon through a wall to shoot inside buildings, I think.(only saw this once):

Me and my friends were in an intense firefight in Berezino once where we retreated in one of those big blue container halls near the harbor. We were camping both entrances when we were suddenly sprayed death from behind. We saw weapons glitching through the hangar walls and spraying everywhere, we couldn't fight back...

 

2)Now I believe there's also another known way to shoot through walls: When people were glitching inside the prisons at the north east airfield, you could also shoot out of the wall at players outside of the prison walls. I died numerous times likes that. We looked up a video on how to do it and tried it ourselves: We confirmed: You could shoot at players outside of the walls, when you were glitched inside.

 

3)But the wallshooting I described in this topic was something different I believe. I encountered this way of wallshooting 1 week ago when there was a major amount of hackers before the latest update which resolved this for a while I believe.

There was a guy using a speedhack, an infinite ammo m4, a hack that caused everyone's weapon to automatically withdraw when you were about 200metres near him(and you couldn't draw it back), but most notably a wallshooting hack. I don't know if he could shoot through walls because he was also bugging through them like with 2). Anyways we were camping near the Berezino docks when suddenly someone started spraying some insane amount of m4 shots, we saw these shots coming out of the factory walls and spraying all over us. My friend who was also in Berenzino was camping in a whole different place. He saw the hacker coming towards him from the house window. (It was a window you can't shoot through, we tested those type of windows). Anyways my friend ran away from the window to go downstairs to shoot at the hacker, but his whole house got sprayed on and he died.

 

Anyways, whatever is going on right now in DayZ, I am sure many more players will report on this and you will eventually be convinced that there's some new hack or something out there that allows you to hit through buildings/walls.

[Max Planck 7174]

That is just lame.

 

Merged.

[newberryes 40]

I don't know whats going on,but i can agree that the amount of people who still have hacked mags is too damn high.Tho i find it funny that i'm able to kill 3 guys with hacked M4:s with Akm and still live trough...until i died from vertical damage glitch,such bs.

Edited July 7, 2014 by newberryes

[TheGreatPerson 12]

"Almost every guy"? I seriously doubt that. I've not encountered a single hacker yet.

[TheGreatPerson 12]

Battle Eye doing its job? You must be insane its poorly coded and just utterly garbage.

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Use this link. I think you would benefit from it. Learn something new.

[Xelpherpolis 32]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm

 

Use this link. I think you would benefit from it. Learn something new.

 

Who says I didn't know, but stating that obvious can be fun <3

[newguyzombie 122]

okay, so gearstealing is still on the servers, we just killed some russian guys, and after a while i noticed my acog was gone, after that my stanag was empty and then my backpack was gone, so i disconnected. nice tho

[pilgrim* 3514]

Please guys, it is Berezino, not Berenzino.

 

Berserkerino ?

[newguyzombie 122]

so we just spawned in at berezino and our whole group got shot through the wall. we all were in the stairway inside the white house next to the brown house with blue doors, i was trading my magazine with one of the mates, and then i died, my friend died and the last friend died. there is no window in this house

Edited July 7, 2014 by newguyzombie

[forddefect 14]

Well I don't believe that. Wallhacks allow you to *see* through walls. Not *shoot* through walls. The only way to shoot through walls (do correct me if I'm wrong) was if you messed around with your .pbo files and that gets you banned pretty much as soon as you connect to a server. One of my junior colleagues actually got busted this way, not knowing the BE update was out.

 

Both of your stories sound a bit sketchy to be perfectly honest.

 

Pride comes before a fall, granted these testimonies maybe false, but there more than one way to gut a cat.  The pbo exploit shows that SA relies on client side hit detection, so lets say if you were able to reverse engineer the game engine and find where to interfere with results of the collision system, to say ignore certain models you could shoot though walls and not have to manipulate the pbos. If you had intimate knowledge you could even manipulate the bullet object, or raycast ( whatever is used in the engine for projectile physics ) to start close to your targets position so its like shooting them at point blank. Hell if you had access to the source code you could find numerous ways to subvert the game logic to your own needs.

 

Good job nobody has the source code then....

 

I don't mean this to be negative but you statement was a bit to bold when there has been a security breach and rumors of missing source code. Also there are some very talented, motivated reverse engineers out there driven not just by financial gains but a challenge and that statement could be taken as one.

 

Finally though, the hysteria of hackers just compound this problem that only goes to negatively affect the product. Your statement actually made me think briefly that BI don't care about their customers and even insinuate that they are lying. I know that's not your intent and I can understand how you and your colleagues can become stand offish due to the bombardment and attacks from players who deep down care about hackers but end up venting their frustrations on you the developers.

 

Honestly, make cheating transparent, lets have some feedback, every rational person knows that its an arms race and every hole you close they open another. I'd like to know more about success stories, maybe weekly/monthly bans numbers or a we know about this cheat and we working on it. Maybe even allow your community to take part in policing the servers, they have done it for all your other previous products and with some success. Cheating can't be won with technology (though it has its place) but it can be kept in check by community, we all understand it can never be entirely stopped.

[frosti 2165]

 

Honestly, make cheating transparent, lets have some feedback, every rational person knows that its an arms race and every hole you close they open another. I'd like to know more about success stories, maybe weekly/monthly bans numbers or a we know about this cheat and we working on it.

 

That should remain a secret so the people buy/download detectable hack unknowingly and get banned.

 

 

Maybe even allow your community to take part in policing the servers, they have done it for all your other previous products and with some success. Cheating can't be won with technology (though it has its place) but it can be kept in check by community, we all understand it can never be entirely stopped.

 

You got feedback tracker for that. That's more then enough..

[youdaman 19]

 

 

You got feedback tracker for that. That's more then enough..

Not true. 

Edited July 8, 2014 by youdaman

[Cullis 7]

Weird thing happened to me two days ago. 

Found a guy on the top of the police station in Komarovo. I don't think he was up to any good, as right before I shot a corpse in the same police station and now he was scanning the town.

 

He had an AKM I think, a rifle with a sickle shaped mag, cowboy hat - no helmet. He wasn't aware of me, so I took careful aim at the back of his head with the FNX. Shot once, twice, five times, from 4m or so.

 

Nothing. I didn't even see any blood. He turns around, shoots me dead. 

Edited July 8, 2014 by Cullis

[newguyzombie 122]

Well I don't believe that. Wallhacks allow you to *see* through walls. Not *shoot* through walls. The only way to shoot through walls (do correct me if I'm wrong) was if you messed around with your .pbo files and that gets you banned pretty much as soon as you connect to a server. One of my junior colleagues actually got busted this way, not knowing the BE update was out.

 

Both of your stories sound a bit sketchy to be perfectly honest.

sorry to correct you, but we made the experience, that a "shoot through wall" hack exists. a guy shot us in berezino 2 minutes after we spawned in inside the house with 3 storys and the balcony room in the second floor. we ve all been inside the stairway, there is no windows. we all got killed by an akm from the neighbour house with the blue doors. after two of us died, the last of us glitched through the wall to check what was going on. after two of us died, the last one glitched through the wall, but it was not possible to look inside the other house, cause they have no direct contact to each other.

 

 

3)But the wallshooting I described in this topic was something different I believe. I encountered this way of wallshooting 1 week ago when there was a major amount of hackers before the latest update which resolved this for a while I believe.

There was a guy using a speedhack, an infinite ammo m4, a hack that caused everyone's weapon to automatically withdraw when you were about 200metres near him(and you couldn't draw it back), but most notably a wallshooting hack. I don't know if he could shoot through walls because he was also bugging through them like with 2). Anyways we were camping near the Berezino docks when suddenly someone started spraying some insane amount of m4 shots, we saw these shots coming out of the factory walls and spraying all over us. My friend who was also in Berenzino was camping in a whole different place. He saw the hacker coming towards him from the house window. (It was a window you can't shoot through, we tested those type of windows). Anyways my friend ran away from the window to go downstairs to shoot at the hacker, but his whole house got sprayed on and he died.

 

Anyways, whatever is going on right now in DayZ, I am sure many more players will report on this and you will eventually be convinced that there's some new hack or something out there that allows you to hit through buildings/walls.

i think we encountered the same hack. pretty uncool, after we switched server quick, cos some hacker took away our gear bit by bit, and then got killed after spawning in by another one

 

i thought there was an update at BE with .46 to mess with the gearstealing hack.

[$able 257]

i think we encountered the same hack. pretty uncool, after we switched server quick, cos some hacker took away our gear bit by bit, and then got killed after spawning in by another one

 

i thought there was an update at BE with .46 to mess with the gearstealing hack.

Note that BE cannot actually fix such hacks, only the engine can. Anyway, the devs are aware of this problem, so hopefully this will be fixed soon.