Stable Branch - 0.55 Discussion

[ColdAtrophy 1850]

The wait for .56 Experimental is killing me. I'm not usually this way. In fact, I'm generally rather patient. However, they gave us a taste of the CLE, which I loved despite the unfinished nature of the inital implementation, and having to go back to the broken mess that we are dealing with now is torturous. If I see one more lootsplosion, I'm going to F11. 

 

We're back to looting mil bases for the only things of any real value because all of the civilian spawned items are stuck in a barn lootsplosion in the middle of God Knows Where, leaving most of the map devoid of items. Then we finally, after a week of digging, find two AK mags that the server hoppers missed...only to realize that they are both ruined and were not missed at all. After 3 weeks on the 1PP hive, we finally found our first AKM and still have no AK mags for the AKS-74U or the AK-74 we have had for a week and a half. Still no AK rail handguards or PSO-1 scopes. We are surviving just fine. Plenty of food and farming implements. Several great weapons to work with. Just still missing some of the things that shouldn't be this damned hard to find.

 

I really, really hope we don't have to tolerate the current state much longer. I would take the initial bugged state of .55 over this any day. At least then, there was a reason to explore and check everything. Now? We just go through a checklist of places we've already been hoping to get lucky this time.

[Tatanko 5591]

I would take the initial bugged state of .55 over this any day.

I think a lot of people felt the same way, myself included. It was challenging, and fun because of it. Far from perfect, but fun. It's unfortunate that a whiny, loud minority of the community was able to get their way and have reverted  :(

[ColdAtrophy 1850]

I think a lot of people felt the same way, myself included. It was challenging, and fun because of it. Far from perfect, but fun. It's unfortunate that a whiny, loud minority of the community was able to get their way and have reverted  :(

 

Ordinarily, I would protest such a statement. I don't normally get behind things like this because it is often unfair to place blame on a portion of the community that you may not agree with.

 

In this case, however, I think it is abundantly clear that what you described is EXACTLY what happened and it bothers me greatly. I saw a tweet from Eugen that said the bugs they saw that prompted the rollback were affecting about 1/6th of private servers. No mention of any such bugs affecting public servers. So the vast majority of the servers were working as intended. So, what are we supposed to think? I think it's only natural to assume and very likely that they rolled it back because of the loud minority. The rest of us were busy playing the game. not on the forums.

Edited April 28, 2015 by ColdAtrophy

[BrainlessZombie 190]

Fingers crossed for an exp update tomorrow!

[Tatanko 5591]

In this case, however, I think it is abundantly clear that what you described is EXACTLY what happened and it bothers me greatly.

Right. I don't normally make such sweeping generalizations or point fingers either, but the evidence doesn't lie. It took me by surprise too, because normally their official stance is "deal with it until the next update" -- for better or worse. Oh well, 0.56 will arrive soon and we will all forget this was ever a thing.

[S3V3N 1402]

It's curious that only cooking pots despawn from tripods, if you place some loot inside the fireplace. If I don't place loot inside of the fireplace it will despawn completely after a restart. Same goes for complete gas cooker sets with cooking pot or for the gas lamps. All disappeared for me after a restart, so better pack that stuff and don't leave it outside/on ground. The current loot situation makes the game really boring to play; even with these lootgasms there is rarely anything I want or need (like magazines). It also seems that a lot of civilian clothing respawns, but not so much military clothes. I've seen fewer high capacity vests than before. Not sure what to do after tomorrow's update. I don't expect much (if anything) to change, so I might as well wait a week and just pop in the game occasionally, to see if I have any luck finding anything good.

 

Not to complain though: I'm pretty well set up. But I didn't have a lot of fun playing this patch. Zombies are still kinda cool from a distance when you have to plan your way around them. Not so much PvP or any encounters at all, really. Had two random shootouts at military bases, but that's about all I've seen of other players last week.  

[ColdAtrophy 1850]

It's curious that only cooking pots despawn from tripods, if you place some loot inside the fireplace. If I don't place loot inside of the fireplace it will despawn completely after a restart. Same goes for complete gas cooker sets with cooking pot or for the gas lamps. All disappeared for me after a restart, so better pack that stuff and don't leave it outside/on ground. The current loot situation makes the game really boring to play; even with these lootgasms there is rarely anything I want or need (like magazines). It also seems that a lot of civilian clothing respawns, but not so much military clothes. I've seen fewer high capacity vests than before. Not sure what to do after tomorrow's update. I don't expect much (if anything) to change, so I might as well wait a week and just pop in the game occasionally, to see if I have any luck finding anything good.

 

Not to complain though: I'm pretty well set up. But I didn't have a lot of fun playing this patch. Zombies are still kinda cool from a distance when you have to plan your way around them. Not so much PvP or any encounters at all, really. Had two random shootouts at military bases, but that's about all I've seen of other players last week.  

 

In the last week on public 1PP, Biohaze and I have seen 0 players. We haven't seen a single server go over about 10 players. 

 

We saw one guy on a private 1PP server, but neither of us were really geared enough to even attempt contact at all so we had to hide and wait for him to pass.

 

This patch has not been as much fun. I agree completely. The lootsplosions are really screwing up the item distribution which makes exploring and general adventuring feel pretty pointless. There is a lootsplosion pretty close to our camp, but there really isn't anything worth grabbing. We stuffed ourselves on sodas and then basically left the rest. There must be at least 500 items still in there.

Edited April 29, 2015 by ColdAtrophy

[BleedoutBill 1636]

I would take the initial bugged state of .55 over this any day. At least then, there was a reason to explore and check everything. Now? We just go through a checklist of places we've already been hoping to get lucky this time.

While I appreciate the fact that some servers went wonky with 0.55 stable, IMO, the invisible vegetables were better than what we have now.

[S3V3N 1402]

While I appreciate the fact that some servers went wonky with 0.55 stable, IMO, the invisible vegetables were better than what we have now.

I still have invisible vegetables, before I had no vegetables at all. Funny thing is that even though the loot system was rolled back, it works worse than before. I think that has to do with the lackluster respawns and the amount of items spammed that virtually nobody needs (hammers, spanners, crowbars anyone?). I'm also having a hard time finding trucks this update, which could be caused by a new truck glitch (I found one that would instantly lose fuel after filling up). One of the servers I regularly played on went down for good, so I lost that camp. Still have one other tent and the gear I'm carrying. 

 

Can't do much more now, as no tents seems to respawn, and I don't wanna make a backpack camp. It's just the way stuff spawns now that is no fun. Coming to a police station in Cherno and finding 8 pair of shoes is just too much for me. If at least there was something decent there every now and then, but I checked yesterday and it was 6 pair of shoes and a book then. For a high yield spawn point that's disappointing. And then you have Vybor and the Northern Airfield, which are just ridiculous. I don't even go there any more, first because I got no working truck, secondly because it's like cleaning up. I have to make a way through all the crap and maybe find one or two decent items, if anything. And I don't even like cleaning my flat, so why would I wanna do housework in Dayz ^^? It's just wrong. The sooner this old-new system returns the better. I don't care if the spawns are fixed, it was a million times more fun on the public servers; sorry it caused such problems on private shards. 

 

Also: I didn't think I'd miss the rain. Ok,so now we got night again, but when will weather conditions return? Been quite epic at times. 

Edited April 29, 2015 by S3V3N

[igor-vk 909]

One of most boring updates ever. Im not even playing any more. Wait for .56 experimental is killing me. Maybe today, devs are unusually quiet last 10 or so days.

[barnabus 1708]

One of most boring updates ever. Im not even playing any more. Wait for .56 experimental is killing me. Maybe today, devs are unusually quiet last 10 or so days.

Even the experimental servers are down for maintenance, they had been keeping a few of those up.  PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE  .56 in the AM.

 

 

I still have invisible vegetables, before I had no vegetables at all. Funny thing is that even though the loot system was rolled back, it works worse than before. I think that has to do with the lackluster respawns and the amount of items spammed that virtually nobody needs (hammers, spanners, crowbars anyone?). I'm also having a hard time finding trucks this update, which could be caused by a new truck glitch (I found one that would instantly lose fuel after filling up). One of the servers I regularly played on went down for good, so I lost that camp. Still have one other tent and the gear I'm carrying. 

 

Can't do much more now, as no tents seems to respawn, and I don't wanna make a backpack camp. It's just the way stuff spawns now that is no fun. Coming to a police station in Cherno and finding 8 pair of shoes is just too much for me. If at least there was something decent there every now and then, but I checked yesterday and it was 6 pair of shoes and a book then. For a high yield spawn point that's disappointing. And then you have Vybor and the Northern Airfield, which are just ridiculous. I don't even go there any more, first because I got no working truck, secondly because it's like cleaning up. I have to make a way through all the crap and maybe find one or two decent items, if anything. And I don't even like cleaning my flat, so why would I wanna do housework in Dayz ^^? It's just wrong. The sooner this old-new system returns the better. I don't care if the spawns are fixed, it was a million times more fun on the public servers; sorry it caused such problems on private shards. 

 

Also: I didn't think I'd miss the rain. Ok,so now we got night again, but when will weather conditions return? Been quite epic at times. 

I have been having no problems finding trucks, in fact they seem to spawning in the same locations no matter what server I am on, same for helicrashes, which is disturbing on the public servers since the hoppers seem to raping those with a quickness.  

 

The trucks I am finding have been in Stary Sobor, by the water tower, Kabanino between the barns in the collective farm there and up in Vavilino, one by the bus barn near the train station and one in town near the piano house.  Also found one up at the open pit mine outside Sevrograd

Edited April 29, 2015 by Barnabus

[Algano 8]

Yesterday we had a lootplosion in a small military camp (after we visited a big camp with very low loot). In the small camp (3 baracks, 1 prison) was EVERY military item you can imagine in the dozens (even drum mags, supressors and plate carrier pouches). Except the things that are defined as chopper-special (AUG, smersh vest, M4, 5.56mm-stuff, M65 jacket, grenades,...(smersh vest btw is silly when you find the backpacks all the time.)) One category was missing too: SCOPES. Like the last weeks before we found not a single one. Something has to be wrong with them. I mentioned it before but someone responded he found several. But this can not be the norm or the lastest status. Because they are nowhere on the whole map on 2 dozens of different servers for us. Not a single one nowhere. This starts with 0.54. Till 0.53 we found scopes every hour.

 

Also the choppers are broken. We found 3 western and 2 eastern. No one had loot. On different places.

 

Trucks: No problem. We found one at the big military tent camp in the west. Their spawning is working good as i see it. Of course they are not so often to find.

Edited April 29, 2015 by Algano

[boneboys 7988]

[moeb1us 91]

patch is boring. half assed roll back. private hive still crippled from initial .55 and GTA5 release. persistence file gets deleted every eight hours or so. loot is not spawning like it should. It's just buggy, broken, and boring atm. Stopped playing, didn't log in since about two weeks. Clock 800 hours or so and it's the longest absence since release.

players are at all time low currently. 

http://steamcharts.com/app/221100#1m

[BrainlessZombie 190]

 

Does this mean that we're not getting an update on exp today?

[kichilron 8550]

We have just set a password on the server

 

 

If it's a public hive server you're at risk of it being shut down. Don't try.

 

Other than that this is not something that belongs in this topic.

[cedrico85 20]

If it's a public hive server you're at risk of it being shut down. Don't try.

 

Other than that this is not something that belongs in this topic.

It's a privat hive :)

 and ok sorry for this i add it on my server description ! 

 

And i hope when the new update wil come out , that the servers wil be wipe to set everyone to 0 

And to the devs don't stop !! you are a good team :) we love what you are doing ! 

Edited April 29, 2015 by cedrico85

[benedictus 160]

This argument is invalid though. I was accused of being a troll too, my "argument" was the same as you, and I was corrected that number of posts didn't matter, at all...   :lol:

 

 

It is true that some of the most active users here spend more time chatting here than actually playing the game. Which is fine, but the input is usually pretty irrelevant.

[blackberrygoo 1416]

I'm so ready for .56 experimental, dayz devs please don't make us wait any longer:( I'm usually more patient but I'm growing really bored with this update seeing as the loot is too .54 lootsplosion-ey , and the fishing is all borked, also all my normal 1PP servers are dead so it's forcing me to play 3PP if I want good interaction :( ... Eugen where are you with those bright eyed tigers and V.56?!

[ColdAtrophy 1850]

just so yall understand...

 

 

renderer does not = fps fix

does not = inc fps

 

makes world look pretty.

 

hardware changes need to be made... wont be till beta... check eugens twitter... its from the horses mouth!

 

You might want to have a talk with Eugen then. He claims that alpha code from the new renderer is already giving them an FPS boost in cities in their internal build and that everyone will see a 10-30% boost when they implement it for us. Optimization and efficiency matter.

[Tatanko 5591]

Not sure what the take-away from this is supposed to be...

 

 

I don't want to be overly optimistic and then have my hopes crushed  :blush:

[ColdAtrophy 1850]

Not sure what the take-away from this is supposed to be...

 

 

I don't want to be overly optimistic and then have my hopes crushed  :blush:

 

Too excited. Must stop checking forums.

[blackberrygoo 1416]

Not sure what the take-away from this is supposed to be...

https://twitter.com/dayzdevteam/status/593333062831906816

I don't want to be overly optimistic and then have my hopes crushed :blush:

We NEED .56 today , it's the only thing that will get me through work tonight !!! I wonder what .56 will have in store ?

[renigade 50]

You might want to have a talk with Eugen then. He claims that alpha code from the new renderer is already giving them an FPS boost in cities in their internal build and that everyone will see a 10-30% boost when they implement it for us. Optimization and efficiency matter.

 

no need to talk... i can read.

 

do u have the claim?

 

https://twitter.com/eugenharton/status/590520582783037441

Edited April 29, 2015 by Renigade

[Zboub le météor 250]

i need the 0.56 exp so mutch too ! sadly, i have little hopes for today, friday is more likely.