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Guns are relatively hard to find, which is good. Why is it that I must pass through 3 major cities to find 1 box of ammo for the gun that I have. No. Ammo needs to be more common, please. Oh, and more full body jackets. It's pretty easy for you to become freezing yet full jackets are half impossible to find. What the hell mang.

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  On 9/25/2014 at 2:24 AM, Borges said:

Guns are relatively hard to find, which is good. Why is it that I must pass through 3 major cities to find 1 box of ammo for the gun that I have. No. Ammo needs to be more common, please. Oh, and more full body jackets. It's pretty easy for you to become freezing yet full jackets are half impossible to find. What the hell mang.

 

I haz all ur jackits and ammos.  5 dolla.  you pay now.

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Yup.

 

Ammo needs to be so rare that when you have a revolver and 3 rounds for it you are feeling good.

 

the_road26.jpg

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  On 9/25/2014 at 2:24 AM, Borges said:

Guns are relatively hard to find, which is good. Why is it that I must pass through 3 major cities to find 1 box of ammo for the gun that I have. No. Ammo needs to be more common, please. Oh, and more full body jackets. It's pretty easy for you to become freezing yet full jackets are half impossible to find. What the hell mang.

 

I don't understand why you have such a hard time finding ammo. What specific type are you looking for?

 

Because except for .380 rounds, I find everything in abundance to be honest, even when looting towns.

 

I agree on the clothes issue. I almost froze to death recently because I found nothing but pants, and a ruined jacket is like being naked.

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Kek, I find metric tons of ammo, just no magazines. (except for CR75 mags...but I never find an actual CR75)

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Loot spawning needs to make sense, so opening a locker in a police station might give you 2 CR 75 Mags and maybe a CR 75, and then there might be another locker with ammo nearby in the station, whether or not it has ammo being dependent on rarity etc. That said, having a revolver with 3 rounds should feel special, or at least there should be a mode [like 2017] where ammo is super rare etc.

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  On 9/25/2014 at 4:38 AM, gibonez said:

Yup.

 

Ammo needs to be so rare that when you have a revolver and 3 rounds for it you are feeling good.

 

*road picture*

The problem with using the road as inspiration (as cool of a film it was) is that it would be pretty boring realistically, if everyone went around with one bullet each looting for food and the looting some more for food nobody would have fun. This doesn't make for a good game as since combat would be non-existent and you wouldn't feel threatened, which kind of ruins the dayz atmosphere.

 

The main problem is, however, the rarity of mags for pistols. This means pistols are less accessible than rifles and they become obsolete.

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  On 9/25/2014 at 2:41 AM, DURRHUNTER said:

How about no on the ammo?

An excellent sentiment DURRHUNTER.  I think it is absurd for borges to be begging for more so that he can blaze away without skill or control (I assume). I have no real problem finding 'enough' Ammo and I wish there was a selector on the AKM and AK101 as their is on the M4A1 as I hate accidental doubles and triples. I like most others can get through quite a bit of gun play with one 30rnd magazine. To borges I say conserve the ammo you do have and remember bullets do not go where you wish they would go, they go where they are aimed. And it isn't supposed to be Easy borges Easy Games Suck!

 

Now read the BOOK "The Postman" by David Brin borges and after you've done that report back to me for more counseling and remedial training  (Don't watch the film it sucks) 

 

Ta! Ta!

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  On 9/25/2014 at 11:21 PM, lootable said:

The problem with using the road as inspiration (as cool of a film it was) is that it would be pretty boring realistically, if everyone went around with one bullet each looting for food and the looting some more for food nobody would have fun. This doesn't make for a good game as since combat would be non-existent and you wouldn't feel threatened, which kind of ruins the dayz atmosphere.

 

You wouldn't feel threatened? are you serious? with hoards of zombies out there and you only have one bullet.. It's meant to be survival not shoot at every little thing that moves, There needs to be less ammo..

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Last night I started with two full magazines (AK101) and thirty five loose rounds. (95rnds) . a .357 with one speed loader and 46 loose rounds. and 40 rounds of 7.62x 39

After an hour or so of hunting for ammo I found:

 

 

At the Jail at Bashnya (1 box of .357 (20rnds )and one box of 5.56. and an SKS

The NWAF (3 20rnd boxes of 5.56 ), 1 empty AK101 Magazine, a box of .357 (20rnds and a speed Loader (6 rnds ), and a 20 round box of 7.62 x 51 

A helicopter crash to the west of the NWAF 1ea 40rnd M4Magazine, 2ea 20 round M4Magazines, and one 10 round M4 magazine, and  a frag grenade. 

 

I used up all but 7 rounds of the 7.62 x 39 ammo I had killing zombies in those locations so I ditched the gun as I hate carrying two rifles 

 

In the end I found a place to hunker down and I had 98 rounds of .357 & two speed loaders, and 245 rounds of 5.56 (90 rounds in magazines and 155 loose) another Grenade and 20 rounds of 7.62 x 51 (For that elusive Longhorn that I will eventually find). 

 

Is ammo really that hard to find? I guess it isn't if you move around the map a bit and look in the right places and accept that there might be some KoS types and plenty of Zeds around. It was fun because I added another 23 Zombie ears to my collection (I wish I could really do that  and wear a zombie ear necklace).

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This is weird becuase, I find more then enough ammo with in just a few hours. Normally my delema is finding a ammo box to put the ton of ammo I find in to save space. My last life I had to drop ak mags becuase I didn't have enough room to carry them all. Normally when I gear up, which is a phase of my game play, I will normally have more ammo then I will ever use.

 

So I don't ammo is a rare what so ever. In some towns there isn't much, but look at Novo....there tons there. Military bases its coming out of the walls.

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  On 9/26/2014 at 2:37 AM, Koala :3 said:

You wouldn't feel threatened? are you serious? with hoards of zombies out there and you only have one bullet.. It's meant to be survival not shoot at every little thing that moves, There needs to be less ammo..

So what are you going too do? Run around and loot, avoiding everything and then loot some more, that is a rubbish idea.

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  On 9/25/2014 at 2:24 AM, Borges said:

Guns are relatively hard to find, which is good. Why is it that I must pass through 3 major cities to find 1 box of ammo for the gun that I have. No. Ammo needs to be more common, please. Oh, and more full body jackets. It's pretty easy for you to become freezing yet full jackets are half impossible to find. What the hell mang.

 

I want less ammo. 

 

It needs to be so that every shot fired is a wager and a risk. It needs to be so that you want to save your ammo for when you really need it. Not so that we can just shoot every player and zombie in the face four times for the hell of it.

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If anything ammo should be more rare then the guns imho.

People dont pick up 100 guns, when the shit hits the fans, but they do pick up 100 bullets and use them.

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Not enough ammo? Is that supposed to be a joke? I ve spent an entire week since 0.49 to find my AK101 and its mags visiting all military facilities all around the map and today i had to dump dozens of ammo boxes, pretty much all my backpack was filled with 5.56, 7.62, 9mm .45, etc. You should risk your life more often visiting hot spots if you want to find ammo. The new loot tables are harsh with those who expect to find an assault rifle in the supermarket and i was quite desperate not to find my favourite assault rifle and mags but i m so happy now that i did. With 0.48 it took me 1h to be fully geared, with 0.49 i had to earn that gear.

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I don't have much trouble finding ammo but, I also only use the sks :p stripper lips on the other hand... they can be a bitch sometimes. But then I'll find 3 or 4 in an hour period.

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  On 9/25/2014 at 4:38 AM, gibonez said:

Yup.

 

Ammo needs to be so rare that when you have a revolver and 3 rounds for it you are feeling good. And I wish our toons looked more like the characters from the road dirty and not very healthy just existing.

 

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I feel the same way you save the last bullet for yourself or if you can the psychos head.

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Less ammo, less guns but more magazines. I found tons of rounds and tons of guns but a total of less than 10 magazines, none of which were CR527 mags - the gun I found most often. It seems easier to find magazines for an assault rifle than for hunting rifles or handguns...

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TL;DR Let the server hosts decide on high ammo spawns or not.

 

Note, this would be for private "hives", not "shards". (Shards have alot more limited and constricted choices, such as not being able to alter loot tables).
 

That way everyone can be happy and don't need to rage at each other all the time over who enjoys what style of gameplay.

 

You guys forcing what you think is best for the game (low ammo, high ammo) etc makes me sick and reminds me of Mormons coming to my door to push religion on me. (Even then I hear them out, and once they start contradicting themselves I send them packin').

 

The guy made a simple suggestion, and people start throwing verbal stones. Let the server hosts control what they want in their private hive, dammit.

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  On 9/27/2014 at 12:40 AM, Evil Minion said:

Less ammo, less guns but more magazines. I found tons of rounds and tons of guns but a total of less than 10 magazines, none of which were CR527 mags - the gun I found most often. It seems easier to find magazines for an assault rifle than for hunting rifles or handguns...

For me finding mags vary's weapon to weapon. I see to be able to get AKM mags 30 round and 70 drums with luck in the mil barracks.....But pistol mags I'm lucky to find 1 or 2 mags in a life. I love the Colt too but I will drop it off and use a 357 just because I don't need mags for it, speed loaders are nice though.  So I agree, its weird like that. The reality is there is a fuck ton of AK-47, and the newer AKM floating around in this world.. 

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  On 9/26/2014 at 7:50 PM, DoctorBadSign said:

I want less ammo. 

 

It needs to be so that every shot fired is a wager and a risk. It needs to be so that you want to save your ammo for when you really need it. Not so that we can just shoot every player and zombie in the face four times for the hell of it.

 

I agree.  As another poster said, the bullets should be more rare than the guns.  This is how it would be in real life.  They are an expendable resource, and should be absolutely precious in a world where you don't have factories making new supply every year.  As it stands now, I find so much ammo that after a while, I just leave it on the ground because I don't have anywhere to put it.  Maybe somewhere down the line they could even have bullet crafting, which could allow bullet spawn rates to fall even more.

 

Also, with 0.49, the gun rarity IMHO is perfect, but realistically, empty mags should be found with the guns almost always.  I know this was mentioned before, but srsly.  It seems more realistic to me to find a gun with an empty mag in it than to find one with no mag whatsoever.

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I have been able to get ammo, but it would be nice to see the 5.56, 7.62x39, .45 and 9mm spawn in other buildings other than police stations and military bases.  I find lots of shot gun shells, 7.62x51 and .380 outside of these areas. It would be nice if some of the 7.62x51 and .380 were the other calibers. I don't want lots of ammo, but it would be nice to find it all in other places. Upshot if ammo spawns in a building it can be of any type.  

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What ? You walk into not looted military base and you leave with 3 75 drum mags and some loose ammo. 

There is too much ammo, way too much military gear, and too much ammo. 

I'm currently running with Blaze 95 and I had to stop picking up ammo, because I need space for other things. 

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