As-50_Thermal and MP5K [ Standalone ]

[gibonez 3633]

So assuming this is from the files, its a joke then.

 

Yea the devs trolling us , probably laughing at all of our outrage about tactical weapons being added.

 

Laughing at all the outrage on here and on reddit.

[TheScruffyBandit 382]

Yea the devs trolling us , probably laughing at all of our outrage about tactical weapons being added.

 

Laughing at all the outrage on here and on reddit.

Abandon thread. Devs are fu*king with us.

[-Gews- 7443]

They just put that AS50 there to mess with people who like nosing around the files.

 

 

The AS50 TWS is already confirmed, it's right in the files along with the other weapons on the current experimental build.




It's true it's in the files - but it's obviously just a joke by the devs.

 

I suspected the first SMG was gonna be an MP5K. Chris Torchia mentioned it a few times these last few months. I would much rather it had been a full-size version but whatever. It better come equipped with a stock.

[Deathlove 2286]

A Thermal AS 50 would be fine guys dont get your panties in a wad. I DON'T want to use Stone Age bullshit all the damn time. They probably will make it very rare if they do.

[gannon46 788]

Brb 360 noscoping with the blaze420yoloswag

ugh excatcly what I don't want to see in dayz I think I'm going to vomit.made me so sick I can't spell or use correct punctuation

Edited April 16, 2014 by gannon46

[Weyland Yutani (DayZ) 1159]

So, After going experimental, I had a nosey poke around in the PBO's as I always have.. Found the AKM and P1, To be expected, However I found an AS-50 Thermal file.. Please. God. No..

 

 

Which pbo?

[-Gews- 7443]

Which pbo?

 

weapons_firearms of course.

[Weyland Yutani (DayZ) 1159]

Holy shit, ya'll ain't kidding.

[gibonez 3633]

A Thermal AS 50 would be fine guys dont get your panties in a wad. I DON'T want to use Stone Age bullshit all the damn time. They probably will make it very rare if they do.

 

Think everyones reaction here and on reddit prove that it would most definitely not be fine.

[Katana67 2907]

Think everyones reaction here and on reddit prove that it would most definitely not be fine.

 

Popular reaction =/= informed reaction.

[-Gews- 7443]

Popular reaction =/= informed reaction.

 

Well, they only need to be "informed" that they dislike it.

 

I see no good reasons to put that gun in and it's not provided for either in real life or Operation Crimson Lance. The M107 TWS would make way more sense.

[Touchdown 10]

Very nice that they choose the K version of the MP5. Folding stock or not, this thing will most likely fit in our backpacks, no more crappy sawn off shotguns!

[Deathlove 2286]

Well, they only need to be "informed" that they dislike it.

 

I see no good reasons to put that gun in and it's not provided for either in real life or Operation Crimson Lance. The M107 TWS would make way more sense.

Im cool with that gun since we do have Dead US troop outfits and weapons there. However i think different types of rounds should be considered including the ones that can puncture through walls for the M107 if they decide to make it however some of the alternative rounds should be rare as a bug in the grass.

[napalmdog 71]

Kind of an Iconic gun, Can't exactly leave it out. ;)

Yes. Yes they can...

[Katana67 2907]

Well, they only need to be "informed" that they dislike it.

 

I see no good reasons to put that gun in and it's not provided for either in real life or Operation Crimson Lance. The M107 TWS would make way more sense.

 

Disliking or liking something doesn't mean one has weighed all the options, hence the fact that negative knee-jerk reactions are often uninformed. Likewise, the comparison made in the post I quoted was equating a "popular" reaction with the "right" reaction. Especially when one's sole experience is from the mod, now rendered largely irrelevant when considering the Standalone, one cannot posit (logically at least) that because the AS50 TWS was ridiculous in the mod, that it therefore cannot be anything but ridiculous in the Standalone. 

 

I'm basing the above off of my own anecdotal evidence, as most of the reaction I've seen to this (which is probably a well-crafted troll) can be surmised as "No! They ruined the mod!" And it seems undeniable that the reaction to the AS50 TWS is specifically related to people's experience in the mod.

 

I don't care either way whether the AS50 specifically is put in. I see no reason not to put it in, but if they wanted to opt for an M107 or a KSVK or some other anti-materiel rifle, I'm fine with it. Said it before, but anti-materiel rifles are one of those weapon types that I could take or leave.

 

I doubt the developers will put in an anti-materiel rifle, given past statements. But should they, I wouldn't mind. People just see AS50 and immediately assume it to be LOLOPBRAH and then dismiss the very premise of its inclusion in DayZ.

Edited April 17, 2014 by Katana67

[hells high 676]

Haha that TROLOLOL model, well done devs.

[lipemr 160]

What exactly is the problem with a thermal vision AS-50? Provided of course it's extremely rare loot(1 per hive) and will not be in the game until the global loot system is also in the game.

 

with the duping that's going on and probably dont be solved in time? nope.

[shaeg 136]

Thermal scope made the mod to easy. Even in real life a thermal scope is a rare thing. They don't just have them laying around military bases either

[Chaingunfighter 917]

It's funny, because I remember the devs discussing how thermo-scopes were a possibility with the hive-wide rarity options. Maybe we'll get one for the M4A1 or something at some point.

 

But besides the point, considering we have FNX-45s, Kimber Warriors, Magpul-outfitted M4A1s, CZ-75 SP-01 SHADOWs, MP5Ks (Not a bad choice, but other MP5 variants make more sense) and likely a bunch of aftermarket, synthetic and tactical parts for the AKMs, I'm guessing more modern weapons will come eventually.

Just hope they'll do the AK-74 & 870 first.

[napalmdog 71]

What exactly is the problem with a thermal vision AS-50? Provided of course it's extremely rare loot(1 per hive) and will not be in the game until the global loot system is also in the game.

DayZ is a game of uneasy meetings and awkward confrontations in a world dropped haphazardly into a zombie apocalypse. What's right about the AS-50 in DayZ?

Edited April 17, 2014 by Napalm Dog

[Katana67 2907]

It's funny, because I remember the devs discussing how thermo-scopes were a possibility with the hive-wide rarity options. Maybe we'll get one for the M4A1 or something at some point.

 

But besides the point, considering we have FNX-45s, Kimber Warriors, Magpul-outfitted M4A1s, CZ-75 SP-01 SHADOWs, MP5Ks (Not a bad choice, but other MP5 variants make more sense) and likely a bunch of aftermarket, synthetic and tactical parts for the AKMs, I'm guessing more modern weapons will come eventually.

Just hope they'll do the AK-74 & 870 first.

 

I think the AKM and SVD are slotted in before the 74 and 870. Although the files do list an AK-74 mag. After that, I'd like to see them go for a decent battle rifle like a FAL or G3 (I'd rather a Mk 17, but people don't like that for some reason).

 

But I suspect it's more of a "when it's done" type of thing. I kind of think they're going a bit slower than I'd've expected with regard to spitting out weapons, but they've done a good job so far.

 

Torchia has also spoken about adding a mid-length AR-15 instead of a proper M16. I'm not sure I agree with this, as I'd rather them either put in an AR-10 variant or stick with a full-length M16. No use fiddling around with a whole new weapon if you're just going to make it the wishy-washy M4/M16 hybrid.

 

I hope the AKM and AK-74 have a robust customization option (either both or one of them) like the M4A1.

[hannibaldaplaya 1095]

I wish DayZ would stick with its location and add weapons appropriate to the area.

 

Games like STALKER had weapons that fit the location and it really added to the immersion- The most common assault rifle? An AK or an AK variant. The most common pistol? Makarov! Etc etc.

 

Sure, it is possible to see western weapons like the M16, M4A1, M14, and etc in the area DayZ is set in but right now we have M4A1's and M1911's. I love the M1911, but seriously, its priority should have been BELOW the Makarov!

Edited April 17, 2014 by Insane Aradia

[plexico 386]

Honestly,I wouldn't be against an incredibly op weapon like the AS50 TWS as long as there was less than 100 of them in the global loot hive thingy(whenever that is added in) so finding one would make you some kind of god, you could probably sell your account for real money.

[Katana67 2907]

I wish DayZ would stick with its location and add weapons appropriate to the area.

 

Games like STALKER had weapons that fit the location and it really added to the immersion- The most common assault rifle? An AK or an AK variant. The most common pistol? Makarov! Etc etc.

 

Sure, it is possible to see western weapons like the M16, M4A1, M14, and etc in the area DayZ is set in but right now we have M4A1's and M1911's. I love the M1911, but seriously, its priority should have been BELOW the Makarov!

 

But on the other hand, STALKER had "unrealistic" weapons which fit its fiction (like the LR-300, L85, F2000, G36, etc.) and weren't immersion breaking for that very reason. I mean, the majority of pistols in STALKER weren't of Soviet origin.

 

Yes, I agree that Warsaw Pact weapons should be commonplace, but I don't want DayZ to be Pripyat 2.0. There's already a robust pure post-Soviet subgenre within post-apocalyptic survival.

 

And, AKM and SVD seem to be slotted as next up. So it's not like they don't plan on adding Warsaw Pact weapons as the norm! :D

Edited April 17, 2014 by Katana67

[Chaingunfighter 917]

I think the AKM and SVD are slotted in before the 74 and 870. Although the files do list an AK-74 mag. After that, I'd like to see them go for a decent battle rifle like a FAL or G3 (I'd rather a Mk 17, but people don't like that for some reason).

 

But I suspect it's more of a "when it's done" type of thing. I kind of think they're going a bit slower than I'd've expected with regard to spitting out weapons, but they've done a good job so far.

 

Torchia has also spoken about adding a mid-length AR-15 instead of a proper M16. I'm not sure I agree with this, as I'd rather them either put in an AR-10 variant or stick with a full-length M16. No use fiddling around with a whole new weapon if you're just going to make it the wishy-washy M4/M16 hybrid.

 

I hope the AKM and AK-74 have a robust customization option (either both or one of them) like the M4A1.

Yeah, they are, I was referring to the mid-run weapons which are confirmed but not actively ready. The AK-74's model has been pretty-much finished for a while, but it's apparently on "indefinite hold" for whatever reason (maybe them trying to sort of the grenade launchers, who knows?)

Torchia has also talked about a lot of weapons, obviously it's all discussion and we can't guarantee everything the devs say they want will be in. But they do have a long wishlist, G3s and FALs I'd love to see, and I'm sure they've got plenty of other guns on there (probably around 99% of all guns people have suggested and will suggest).

 

Also, it doesn't really make sense to me that they'd want a "mid-length" AR-15 vs an M-16 when the M4A1 with a 14.5' barrel seems to be the standard "mid-length" weapon. I guess they could have a 16' barrel one, but an M-16 would be noticably different (and could fire in bursts).

If they really wanted to they could just add different barrels, or a GAU-5/CAR-15 with an 11.5' barrel.

 

 

I wish DayZ would stick with its location and add weapons appropriate to the area.

 

Games like STALKER had weapons that fit the location and it really added to the immersion- The most common assault rifle? An AK or an AK variant. The most common pistol? Makarov! Etc etc.

 

Sure, it is possible to see western weapons like the M16, M4A1, M14, and etc in the area DayZ is set in but right now we have M4A1's and M1911's. I love the M1911, but seriously, its priority should have been BELOW the Makarov!

Stalker had L85s, G36s, F2000s, even an AR-15 variant.

The probable reason for the lack of a Makarov is that it uses 9x18mm versus the .45 ACP already in the game. You could argue that they should've done the Makarov before the FNX-45, but the FNX is re-used from ArmA 3 so it was probably easiest for them to do. (They could've used the MP-443 Grach, though.)

 

Besides, we're still in the early testing stages of the game, not the final game. The weapons list is obviously not representative of what we'll have in the end. As long as we can count on it being in the game at some point it's not a huge deal, is it?

Edited April 17, 2014 by Chaingunfighter