What's the current hacking status like in DayZ:SA?

[ChainReactor 922]

Sigh.. no. That is not what I said at all. You took what I said and interpreted it your way.

 

Picking up a hacked weapon, will not get you banned.

 

Spawning a hacked weapon should obviously get you banned.

 

Are we clear now?  ;)

 

The weapon is not the problem. Its the infinite mag. Creating it should end up in a ban just like with the weapons. However, picking up and using an infinite-ammo mag and thus keeping it in game shouldnt remain unpunished tho. Maybe "just" add an algorithm to the character login that scans for unnormal items and simply remove them on login.

 

Finding a hacked mag right now is a free to use-godlike gift for every M4 owner. It shouldnt be there in first place. And i think ammocount is something you devs can check on login, i mean, we all log back to our characters with the precise ammount of ammo in our guns and our inventory when we get back to playing.

 

EDIT: To be clear, a cheated weapon isn't that big of a deal, there are many M4 people out there. An opponent that never has to reload and can shoot forever IS a gamebreaker, especially with an automatic rifle like the M4 is.

Edited July 18, 2014 by ChainReactor

[airborneguy 93]

Sigh.. no. That is not what I said at all. You took what I said and interpreted it your way.

 

Picking up a hacked weapon, will not get you banned.

 

Spawning a hacked weapon should obviously get you banned.

 

Are we clear now?  ;)

so...what are you guys doing to combat this? I was in a server yesterday and killed ab9ut 3 bandits with hacked mags. It is getting out of control and needs some attention.

[airborneguy 93]

Devs...look at the post that cpchua wrote!!!!

[Accolyte 1727]

 

The weapon is not the problem. Its the infinite mag. Creating it should end up in a ban just like with the weapons.

 

Swap the word "weapon" in my previous post for (any item that is in the game). The logic remains the same.

 

 

Devs...look at the post that cpchua wrote!!!!

 

I looked. What about it?

[airborneguy 93]

Swap the word "weapon" in my previous post for (any item that is in the game). The logic remains the same.

 

 

 

I looked. What about it?

are you being a smart A@%?

Are you guys doing anything to combat the hacked infinite ammo?

[Mjones (DayZ) 48]

are you being a smart A@%?

Are you guys doing anything to combat the hacked infinite ammo?

 

You want a magic wand for the issues?

 

There is no need to be rude, grow up.

Edited July 19, 2014 by Mjones

[ChainReactor 922]

 

 

 

Swap the word "weapon" in my previous post for (any item that is in the game). The logic remains the same.

 

 

 

No Accolyte, just no. Maybe you don't get my point, so let me clarify

 

Spawning a weapon saves the hacker from looting it, saving up maybe 30 - 60 minutes of gameplay. Spawning infinite beans saves the hacker from starvation for the rest of his life. Well, I couldn't care less. If the kid feels the need to do so then it should be like that.

 

Having infinite Ammo however, ( doesn't matter if spawned by himself or simply picked up ) in a PVP-heavy game that DayZ at this point in development is, is an enourmus advantage over other, more serious players. It breaks the combat mechanics not just for the hacker but every single player he encounters and ( most likely ) attacks, simply because he can.

 

Okay let's move on from my initial point to punish players who simply pick up and use such mags. But there must be a technical solution to get rid of those items.

 

I mean, is it so hard to code an algorithm that checks magazines for overcapacity upon login?

Edited July 19, 2014 by ChainReactor

[Bororm 1156]

You want a magic wand for the issues?

 

There is no need to be rude, grow up.

 

The magic wand is a full hive wipe, which they really should just do if they still can't manage to get rid of all these mags yet claim to have created a solution to the source.

[Accolyte 1727]

are you being a smart A@%?

Are you guys doing anything to combat the hacked infinite ammo?

 

We are. But you will understand if I cant really go into detail on things such as this.

 

 

Okay let's move on from my initial point to punish players who simply pick up and use such mags. But there must be a technical solution to get rid of those items.

 

I mean, is it so hard to code an algorithm that checks magazines for overcapacity upon login?

 

Punishing someone for something someone else did doesn't seem fair to me, personally. You would end up punishing a lot of people who would be genuinely unaware of what sort of an item they picked up. They could simply just not notice that there is something wrong with the mag before using it. On the other hand spawning a can of beans should indeed be treated the same way as spawning a weapon or an infinite mag. It doesn't matter what item they spawned, its the fact they spawned something that is the problem.

 

I am no programmer or database tech to know all the intricacies of the inventory system. There are a couple of things in the background you're not aware of however and I cant discuss those, sorry. Suffice to say it may not be as easy as it seems at first.

[newguyzombie 122]

The magic wand is a full hive wipe, which they really should just do if they still can't manage to get rid of all these mags yet claim to have created a solution to the source.

and then?

the hackers just spawn in new hacked weapons with unlimited mags. this wouldnt change anything about the situation right now!

 

first they have to get rid of the code which allows to make these magazines and after that they can think about a hive whipe!

they cannot just snap with their fingers and we got the beautifull pink unicorns there

[scriptfactory 620]

Punishing someone for something someone else did doesn't seem fair to me, personally. You would end up punishing a lot of people who would be genuinely unaware of what sort of an item they picked up. They could simply just not notice that there is something wrong with the mag before using it. On the other hand spawning a can of beans should indeed be treated the same way as spawning a weapon or an infinite mag. It doesn't matter what item they spawned, its the fact they spawned something that is the problem.

 

What? You mean infinite ammo mags aren't a part of the game?

I do mostly agree with you but I feel that if you kill another person with an infinite mag you should be temporary banned. Knowingly exploiting should be punished. Just like all of the wall glitchers. If you are glitched in a wall and kill someone, temp ban. I don't care if these people feign innocence. Virtually no one uses an infinite mag by accident...

[kichilron 8550]

Virtually no one uses an infinite mag by accident...

 

 

A lot of people do. You know about it because you're active here on the Forum. If I wouldn't have any connection to maths / computerscience (which a lot of people do not) - you wouldn't know what this 1.4e+8 means. How would / could you? 90% would think it's a glitch in the game, as it's still in Alpha.

 

You can't ban people for using them and it won't happen - let's put an end to this discussion. (As we already know that the people that create those mags / script them in, are being banned. It's a tedious discussion going around in circles.)

[airborneguy 93]

I could fix the hackers in 5 minutes if you hired me

[kichilron 8550]

I could fix the hackers in 5 minutes if you hired me

 

There is only two possibilities here:

 

 

If you can actually do this you should stop posting here and immediately contact Bohemia Interactive with an appropriate business-offer (probably around 10-20 million if you can really stop it alltogether)

 

Or you can't and should stop posting on here, because you're trolling.

 

 

You see? The outcome is the same and I suggest you don't bother posting on here anymore, as nothing of what you have been saying has been constructive thus far.

Edited July 19, 2014 by kichilron

[emigrates 261]

There is only two possibilities here:

 

 

If you can actually do this you should stop posting here and immediately contact Bohemia Interactive with an appropriate business-offer (probably around 10-20 million if you can really stop it alltogether)

 

Or you can't and should stop posting on here, because you're trolling.

 

 

You see? The outcome is the same and I suggest you don't bother posting on here anymore, as nothing of what you have been saying has been constructive thus far.

 

Image relevant, Kichilron is anti-riot guy, Bigcountry101 being the guy who got shot by the rubber bullet.

[JiJi (DayZ) 223]

20/07

From various stream sessions, strong resurgence of cheated magazines.

New hack or duplication on large scale?

[General Zod 1118]

Speaking of duplication

Logged into the server and the game crashed instantly, logged in again and found my clone

[dataznguy4 (DayZ) 0]

I agree with the full character reset to get rid of the hacked mags. Unlimited ammo has already been patched. Spawning gears already been patched. The only thing that is close to unlimited ammo are those hacked m4 and sks magazines that has been duped and spread all around. Although I'm guessing once the game hits beta, everything will be wiped anyways; just wishing they would do it now.

[archamedes 238]

whats more effective than a dev team trying to find a solution to a very difficult problem? Its us, all of us. Instead of complaining that more needs to be done, if YOU find a mag with infinate ammo, throw it into a bush. it'll wipe during server restart. If everyone did this there wouldn't be a problem. But we live in the real world and there will always be people that decide to keep them.

 

I mean yeah it doesnt solve the problem as a whole and it wont stop people spawning them in but when hackers that use them are constantly reminded that having an infinate M4 doesn't make you invincible and anyone can still kill you, they may not decide to keep using them

Edited July 20, 2014 by archamedes

[emigrates 261]

whats more effective than a dev team trying to find a solution to a very difficult problem? Its us, all of us. Instead of complaining that more needs to be done, if YOU find a mag with infinate ammo, throw it into a bush. it'll wipe during server restart. If everyone did this there wouldn't be a problem. But we live in the real world and there will always be people that decide to keep them.

 

I mean yeah it doesnt solve the problem as a whole and it wont stop people spawning them in but when hackers that use them are constantly reminded that having an infinate M4 doesn't make you invincible and anyone can still kill you, they may not decide to keep using them

This is the ultimate problem. I bet so many people here (I've done it myself) cry about people using unlimited magazines, but when they come across one they can use, they jump at the chance of being rambo v2.0 and never fear about being shot while reloading. Only after a discussion with a clan member who told me how damaging it is to play with unlimited magazines did I actually stop using them once found.

[Mark Darkers 151]

Hey, I would like to share the event my friend and I where in today.

 

While hiking from black mountain towards north west airfield (both geared with akm's, I had 2 mags and my friend had 2 mags and a drum) we came across a lonely player in the woods, running towards us.

 

He grabbed his mosin and started shooting, while sprinting and I mean sprinting not jogging. So we instantly grabbed our weapons, split up went for cover and took turns into firing, I shot him twice in the legs, he started bleeding and my friend emptied his drum mag on his tree, he got hit at least 8 times counting his blood spraying out of his body.

But his gear still looked pristine, also a mosin only carry's 5 rounds in the clip and he kept shooting at one second intervals without reloading a single time, eventually he shot my friend in the head. 

Meanwhile I flanked around him saw the blood coming from the tree, and crawled closer, 20 seconds passed in the meantime and when I arrive at the tree, no one was there. Now he couldn't have logged out because the timer was 30 seconds, but lets give the benefit of the doubt and lets say he logged out, he could not have run away because he either had to cross a major open field in which I would see him, or come past me in the tree line. I waited for about 10 min to clear surrounding trees, went to my friends body, took his gear, since it was a head shot everything was still good.

 

Out of curiosity, now loaded with 4 mags and a drum, I waited nearby behind a bush to see if the person would be stupid enough to log back in. No one showed up, at the moment I was about to move, something right of me caught my eye, it was that player, now coming from across the field, on his way to loot my already looted dead friend. I stayed still waited for him to loot the body, lowered my bipod, took aim (keep in mind I was only 10 meters away from him, he did not notice me) and opened up fire, I hit him multiple times in the back. He started running, I retook my aim and shot again, but in front of my eyes he popped away, like a ghost, gone.

 

Instantly I got shot by a Mosen from the right of me and there he was, same guy, bleeding as hell. I broke my leg, reloaded a clip and shot at his chest (he was right next to me about 5 meters away). Multiple bullets landed his chest, he was now a walking fountain, his clothes still pristine. suddenly he popped back to my left and on my right another guy popped in with an akm, not logging in, popping in ready to shoot. I was bleeding, out of ammo (all went into that one guy) and before I got a final blow 3 more fully geared people with akm's popped next to the other guy, in an open field. They took aim and open fired, everything went black, I did not log out yet, they kept shooting for about a minute without reloading.

 

My friend and I where live for about two weeks and we met our end by a group of hackers.

I don't know about you guys, but in my opinion if you suck so much at a game that even in a group you need hacks to survive, it would be better to not play at all and let the people who enjoy the game enjoy the game.

 

 

Some of you might say desync, but every one was at 0 desync. This was just a hacker with godmode, unlimited ammo, who teleported away, warned his friends and teleported back. First time  ever in my playing time (over 320 hours) that I meet a hacker, but man it is lame as hell.

 

What do you guys think?

Edited July 20, 2014 by Mark Darkers

[Grimey Rick 3417]

Stopped reading at where.

[DeatHTaX 1217]

meh, I made it to "took turns into firing". 

[Mark Darkers 151]

Stopped reading at where.

Guys guys, English is not my native language, I did my best to prevent typo's, I will adjust it and edit it. At this point it is the hackers what this topic is about after all..

[Grimey Rick 3417]

Guys guys, English is not my native language, I did my best to prevent typo's, I will adjust it and edit it. At this point it is the hackers what this topic is about after all..

 

Haha, I was only kidding. Hackers are everywhere; those who deny this are in la-la land. I was killed by a hacker the other day. I ran back to my body, and we ended up talking. He informed me that he paid $15 for an executable file that hooked the DayZ.exe or something along those lines (I run cranes, I'm not that computer savvy beyond putting one together). I asked him what the program could do, so he directed me to the website he bought them from. I'm not going to link said website, but here's a copy/paste of some of the "features":

 

 

Features:

Teleport (Player and other players)

Item/Gun Spawner

Aim Boxes/Bot

God Mod

No recoil

Infinite ammo

Speed hacks - 300% faster run

Ammo box spawner

No clip

Execution script

Drop all players/npcs

Disarm everyone

No grass

Speed Shot - 150% faster shooting

So yeah, there are definitely no hackers in the game, right guys?  :rolleyes: