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Dev's the loot system is beyond retarded. FIX IT

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I spawned at solnichiny ( way up the coast ) and started heading to berezino and from there to Gorka and to stary novo... before i reached Gorka i thought about the ghuille suit and while i was walking i looked at Youtube and Googled where to find netting and burlap sacks. Netting was mainly around the coast and burlap sacks was around factories, tool sheds and farms. So i thought i should look in every factory, tool shed and farm from Gorka to nwa to vybor to zelenogorsk to kamenka and when i reached the coast i was going to find netting.

Now...this is roughly 6 hours of playtime.

Not a single burlap sack in a 4 hour loot trip, not a single netting on 2 hours by the coast.

You know what i found in those factories and farms and tool sheds? Screwdrivers, peacoats, car battery, pink dresses, raincoats, hard hats...

And every boat at the coast offered 3 different items...pipsi, drysack and marlin backpack.

YOU encourage server hopping!

YOU have a flawed loot system!

The only three places that have the right loot, are: military bases, hospitals and firestations. 

And also the one of a kind what i like to call it, the hunters lodge by Sosnovka dam. That place ALWAYS have hunter camo, chlorine tablets, pu scopes, compass, hunters knife and flashlights.

Other than those mentioned it's beyond retarded. Walk in to a restaurant..do you find a steak knife? Kitchen knife? Bottled water? Or anything to eat? Nope...but i can assure you that there will be a biker jacket or a teddy bear or an baseball cap.

Walk into a store...do you find any grocieres? Canned food? Soda? Bottled water? Apples? Nope...but you might find a leather sewing kit or a hoodie.

In the domestic areas? Surely you must find cookingpots, cuttlery, canned food and other household items...nope but you will find 9mm ammo, buckshots, and motorcycle helmets..oh and the always lovely peacoat. But the tool sheds behind the house? There must be shovels, hatchets and garden seed? Nah..mostly plaid shirts and peacoats.

Police stations are as fun as watching paint dry, it's worthless loot in there.

 

Now...to the point. I and many know exactly how the loot system work, the stuff you carry or wear always shows up. If i find a tactical helmet, i will find 7 more in no time, if i pick up a 9v battery, they spawn like mushrooms. The loot is based around what you wear, carry and use. It's obvious once you start server hopping and gear up. There are no logic to the loot, you should know where to go to find what your looking for, just like military bases..if i go there i know i will find m4 and akm and military clothes. If i go to a firestation i know i'll find fireaxes, firehelmet etc.

Too unlogic, too little reward and too random. And most of us jog everywhere because the 4*4 car is fudge on so many levels.

Please look over the loot system. Jogging for 6 hours and looting every building only to find everything else except the things that should be there is a big no no for me. I rather take 90 sec punishment and just stand in the same place until i find what i want. I can assure you it wont take 6 hours.

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That’s the mistress of RNG for you, she can be fickle at times...

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Dark red cargo containers at coastal dock yards are better for netting than boats nowadays, cherno dockyards usually always give me 2-4 netting on every trip aslong as I loot every container in sight. Burlaps sacks are easier to find in towns & cities with lots of rows of garages, also long windowed barns with internal stalls are worth checking. But tbh Burlaps & netting are meant to spawn infrequently though, as the ghillie suit is extremely OP & if everyone was wandering around with one it's be pretty ridiculous, there end game craftable items ad should take a survivor several in game days to acquire the needed components. The RNG loot spawns don't promote server hopping, impatience and people with no intergrity does. Just remember that the game is not finished and that the current spawning/loot cycle isn't balanced yet. Many more items will come which will potentially make the game even more difficult (hopefully) this is dayz easy mode,  everyone can get an AR with a few mags , a bag full of food & ghillie wraps within one play session. That is not how a hardcore survival game should run, it just creates a rinse and repeat mentality as no one is attached to there character or feels they have anything to lose, hence KOS & PvP becomes the prevalent playstylez until the game is significantly harder this won't change.

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I find burlap sacks all of the time. And netting.I stick only to 1 server (US3664170) my home server. I have ghille wraps for all 7 of my rifles and 2 complete suits. I look at it as the lack of loot just gives you something to do. The game before beta spoiled us with the loot turned up to 11. It was Dayz ez mode lol. Now we have a taste of the way its supposed to be.

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4 hours ago, nhow7108 said:

I find burlap sacks all of the time. And netting.I stick only to 1 server (US3664170) my home server. I have ghille wraps for all 7 of my rifles and 2 complete suits. I look at it as the lack of loot just gives you something to do. The game before beta spoiled us with the loot turned up to 11. It was Dayz ez mode lol. Now we have a taste of the way its supposed to be.

DayZ easy mode? And it's not now you mean? It's been less than 2 weeks since netting was added and you got it on 7 rifles and 2 complete suits? Sounds pretty easy still.

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5 hours ago, TheYetiBum said:

Dark red cargo containers at coastal dock yards are better for netting than boats nowadays,

, it just creates a rinse and repeat mentality as no one is attached to there character or feels they have anything to lose, hence KOS & PvP becomes the prevalent playstylez until the game is significantly harder this won't change.

Thanks, i'll check them out.

Yeah, i totally agree, no one is scared or careful or trying to speak before they raise their weapon. It's just BAM! 

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35 minutes ago, bent.toe said:

Thanks, i'll check them out.

Yeah, i totally agree, no one is scared or careful or trying to speak before they raise their weapon. It's just BAM! 

Try the barns as well for the burlap sacks, found a couple in them last night.

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I genuinely think server hoppers are to blame. I struggle to find tents, burlap, gun mags, etc., because people server hop to collect shit loads of gear and bury it. 

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They can be but last two days I've searched every car garage, row of garages and sheds and only found one sack. I don't mind loot being rare, I like the challenge. But it's annoying to know that server hoppers are stripping stuff out and taking it back to their own server to make holiday camps. 

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I havnt died since base building got added. Im looting stuff, store it, repeat.

Yesterday tho, i found someones base and gave him some of my stuff i was running around with, cause he got raided before. I gave him a mosin+pu scope, several types of ammo, 1 fx45 mag and some base building stuff and carried a barrel to his location.

 

My storages are full of food, water, ammo and a few weapons ( like to use the mosin+pistol ), base building stuff&Clothing

I would like to build a base, but the public server thing and bugs are a bit annoying for me to do so.

 

For interactions : I Always have my mic connected and currently, im a lone wolf since weeks. I am pretty patient with others and most of the time i have to explain them, how they can talk to me... Which is a reason, they didnt kill me on sight.

Sometimes tho, i can be a douche tho. 2 days ago, i shot at a bush, next to a player at night who wanted to loot a small mil outpost... It was funny to saw him running back into the woods. Never saw him again.

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4 hours ago, DayzDayzFanboy said:

They can be but last two days I've searched every car garage, row of garages and sheds and only found one sack. I don't mind loot being rare, I like the challenge. But it's annoying to know that server hoppers are stripping stuff out and taking it back to their own server to make holiday camps. 

I found 3 nettings in that huge container harbour att chernagorsk. So thanks for that @TheYetiBum

Burlap sacks is another thing though..just as i said in my OP, i found one and all of the sudden i found another...and another. But the second i turned them into small stripes...the burlap sack is nowhere to be found.

The loot system (RNG) are based on what you use, wear and carry. It's not complex or super advanced. It ruin the adventure of a 3 hour hike to get the item you want.

Why do people go to NWA? Why bother hiking for hours? Because when you arrive you get what you were looking for.

A few weeks ago i saw a castle in a hill and decided to get up there, maybe it had the medevial helmet and some other rare stuff. Nope..a biker jacket and a sweater and 1 pipsi (at the little kiosk). How is that rewarding?

Another time i decided to swim for 12 minutes to prison island. For what? A cap, a prison uniform and some military gear.

 

Nah...the loot system is seriously flawed and makes no sense on locations other than MB, firestation and hospitals.

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5 hours ago, DayzDayzFanboy said:

I genuinely think server hoppers are to blame. I struggle to find tents, burlap, gun mags, etc., because people server hop to collect shit loads of gear and bury it. 

I disagree..how can they be? If you find nothing where it should be items then sure...someone took it. But if there are items in the regular spots but it's the same items you've seen for two hours, then it's not about server hoppers but about a flawed loot/spawn system.

Also...a server hopper stays in one place to loot until desired items are found. It would be practically impossible that you are in the same place in a huge map as the same time as a server hopper hops between 40+ servers with 90 sec delay on each. UNLESS it's one of the military bases..because that's where 99% of the server hopping takes place. Also...a server hopper don't grab everything from a base, so they are never empty and most likely you two are not looking for the same items and therefore it should be untouched.

 

Nope...the loot system are broken. I will stand by that til the end of times. Even of we made videos of it they would never acknowledge it.

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Yeah, I must admit I would expect to find the medieval helmet in a castle and not in a campsite! Also would expect to find maps on campsites and not packets of seeds, and find seeds on greenhouses! Actually found my first map in the boot of a car yesterday. 

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10 minutes ago, DayzDayzFanboy said:

Yeah, I must admit I would expect to find the medieval helmet in a castle and not in a campsite! Also would expect to find maps on campsites and not packets of seeds, and find seeds on greenhouses! Actually found my first map in the boot of a car yesterday. 

I've only ever found great helms in deer stands so far... Doesn't make sense to me, but that's the only place I've found them to this day since I've started playing.

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2 hours ago, DayzDayzFanboy said:

Yeah, I must admit I would expect to find the medieval helmet in a castle and not in a campsite! Also would expect to find maps on campsites and not packets of seeds, and find seeds on greenhouses! Actually found my first map in the boot of a car yesterday. 

 

1 hour ago, Molecular Drift 1.0 said:

I've only ever found great helms in deer stands so far... Doesn't make sense to me, but that's the only place I've found them to this day since I've started playing.

Glad i'm not the only one. It's definitivly fishy.

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23 minutes ago, bent.toe said:

Glad i'm not the only one. It's definitivly fishy.

I like to imagine it was Sir Lancelot... climbed his way up into the deer stand to get away from a pack of wolves. While he waited up there for the wolves to lose interest and disperse, he peeked around and said; "Oh sweet, a boonie hat! This is much lighter than this damn helmet!"  Just the stuff that goes through my head sometimes while playing... I mean, why else would an iron helmet be in a tree stand?  o.O'

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19 hours ago, Nayte said:

That’s the mistress of RNG for you, she can be fickle at times...

there isn't much RNG right now regarding loot, there are some items flooding the servers while other items are near impossible to find

there is something weird going on

brown hoodies, nearly in every civilian house

dresses, almost everywhere, from industrial to garages, dresses are multiplying it almost seems

trying to find a can opener? that is more luck than reliable searching for it in a supermarket for example

some houses don't spawn loot at all: apartment buildings, giant buildings where people lived, and somehow they were able to evacuate every single piece of furniture?

long barns for some reason only spawn clothing, instead of pitchforks, shovels, or farming equipment

OP is pretty much right, loot makes no god damn sense, but playing the game for as long as i did, i got used to it

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49 minutes ago, ZomboWTF said:

 

some houses don't spawn loot at all: apartment buildings, giant buildings where people lived, and somehow they were able to evacuate every single piece of furniture?

 

Husband

- honey i heard on the radio there is an zombie outbreak, grab the essentiell and i start the car.

......10 minutes later.

Husband goes back in the house

- honey wtf are you doing? Why are you packing the cuttlery? Why are you folding clothes??

 

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Its all RNG. sometimes its not server hoppers its the game screwing you.

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22 hours ago, bent.toe said:

DayZ easy mode? And it's not now you mean? It's been less than 2 weeks since netting was added and you got it on 7 rifles and 2 complete suits? Sounds pretty easy still.

I forgot to mention i have a 6 man group hording loot lol.

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4 hours ago, nhow7108 said:

Its all RNG. sometimes its not server hoppers its the game screwing you.

I ran to the harbour/factory part just outside chernagorsk. Looted every container and factory...did not find one single burlap. But a lot of hoddies and marlin backpacks. The loot system is flawed.

 

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I had one netting in my backpack, guess how many nettings i found? 5 nettings...it boosts my theory even more

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Just found a burlap sack in a garage area (double sided with a row of garages), took it and logged off. Logged in to another server at the same location....voila! Found 2 more burlap sacks within 30 sec.

 

Fix the damn loot system!!

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Not server hopping but have searched every building, trainstation, harbour from svetlojarsk to tisy the last 5 hours on server 3945 (NL) looking for a medium tent. Not a single tent anywhere...is that how it should work?

Sure a few houses, factories were looted but come on. Are there 3 medium tents per server?

Rediculous.

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