Ethical Hunting

[Zurvivalist 300]

So I get the kid up and off to school and decide to jump on for a few. 

Normal early morning routine , Do a little trapping and  fishing, feed my character and then off to bed for a few hours. ( I get off work at 5am ) 

 

So I get on  sure enough my guy is hungry . So I head off to the hunting grounds, Set up my traps in my normal spot and head to my fishing hole. 

 

On the way I spot a herd of cattle moving down a commonly used game trail . Sure enough they are heading toward the same small pond I fish at. 

 I stop for a minute , switch my gear out a bit , put on my ghillie hood and gun wrap. And start stalking them on foot. 

Too many trees in the way to get any good shots in, I know where they are going after the pond. So I go head them off . 

 

About five minutes later I'm set up on a hill side, I dropped my backpack in the bushes and put on my full ghillie suit now . 

Watching the herd move across the valley toward my location , it will take a few more minutes , but I can wait . 

Switch my blaze over to double fire. Maybe today I'll get lucky and be able to pull off that double head shot i been hoping to do . 

 

So I'm sitting there waiting , watching for them to get into just the right position to attempt a double kill shot . It looks like it might just line up.... they are so close now. 

 

When out of nowhere , the two i had in my crosshairs drop dead.???!!!?!?

I zoom out a bit . Look around, 

It's another guy in my territory ! 

He's running through the field right at the cattle , full auto bursts mowing them down . 

 

Annoyed I sit back and watch . I zoom in to start inspecting the situation . 

AKM, suppressed ,. drum mag for sure too many shots fired .. 

Son of ... oh well fair is fair.... 

 

I'm about to pack it up and move on , when it dawns on me , 

This guy.. is in full military gear. Helmet , akm , improvised backpack,plate vest. 

Sure enough i watch as he finishes gutting the last of the four cows, he reloads, ANOTHER 75 round drum mag. 

I thinks to myself..I bet money he cant pack all that meat, AND those drums, .. This guy isnt a hunter.. Hes a fcking pocher ! ON MY LAND ! 

 

I drop back down , steady my shot , aim just at the neck , 180-200m easy enough for the double shot spread not to ruin his gear.  

Squeeze the trigger. Clean shot , if the engine allowed it , his head would have popped like a water balloon .

 

I reload and wait a few minutes to see if anyone comes to his aid or for his gear.. 

Scope out the valley , no one around. 

 

I head down to collect my breakfast and inspect this guy's gear. 

Sure enough , AKM fully decked out, ,Plate Vest,3x75 round drum mags.a few grenades . a suppressed 45 acp , adrenaline, bandages all pristine , all empty slots filled with rags .. This guy was out to do some damage..And worst of all , had almost no room for half this meat , let alone all of it !!!!

I take a few moments to dismantle all his gear and throw it around the field. gut his body and save the meat for later. I have tabs so no big deal if i get sick. 

 

Collect my pack and head off back to my traps and to cook my breakfast. 

Content with the idea of one less murderer in my area to compete with.. And enough meets to last me a few days.

 

Moral of the story, If he wasn't a pocher and killed more than he needed , He would have lived ..

 

 

[cash81 506]

Im guessing he just wanted to hear his dog bark. Ive gotten almost every gun in the game but can honestly say i have only ever fired a dozen of them lol

[Merc. 37]

Good Story, enjoyed it. Thanks for sharing!

[q.S Sachiel 470]

I'm very glad you gutted and ate him.

 

It's what I would have done, poacher or otherwise.

 

Hail J0nathan, protector of game, consumer of men!

[Whyherro123 2283]

When bullets get rarer and more difficult to find, I am willing people won't pull shit like that so often.

 

"Shooting to shoot" hrmph

[Sattkopf 8]

Could you please tell me where to reliably find any game?

I've been running around North for quite a while and I've only seen a chicken there so far.

Edited January 5, 2016 by Sattkopf

[cash81 506]

Could you please tell me where to reliably find any game?

I've been running around North for quite a while and I've only seen a chicken there so far.

I stumbled upon the NWAF the other day after exploring the north. I found an amazing farm property that i hadnt seen before that was just north of the air field. I expected to find some cattle there or pigs but there was nothing. But when i headed south i came across the air field and besides lots of infected, i saw deer running in the air strip grass.

But apart from that, i havent seen anything else in my northern travels thus far.

[yazar8 584]

There's no need to kill an animal for fun. Most of the hunters IRL do this, they kill for fun not for the meat. I guess the same goes for the guys playing.

[Mookie (original) 799]

Could you please tell me where to reliably find any game?

I've been running around North for quite a while and I've only seen a chicken there so far.

 

There are two fairly large ponds around Green Mountain - one to the north, and another to the west (near Zelenogorsk). There is a good chance of running into cows or deer there. Similarly, if you're further north, there are a series of smaller ponds to the west of Lopatino where I often see cows or deer.

 

edit: 'reliably' not a word I'd apply to this though :D

Edited January 5, 2016 by Mookie

[IkaikaKekai 1957]

Kudos sir!  You've got me seriously interested in reinstalling and playing again.

[Red_Ensign 990]

I think I've fired 6 or 7 rounds in .59...

[Sattkopf 8]

There's no need to kill an animal for fun. Most of the hunters IRL do this, they kill for fun not for the meat. I guess the same goes for the guys playing.

 

 

 

 That isn't quite right, of course some kill for fun but don't forget that there are also people out there that use the Leather for crafting their clothes and water pouches.

 Having a "safe" way of getting food that doesn't require you to hoard it in your backpack or go to cities would be great.

[Zurvivalist 300]

Could you please tell me where to reliably find any game?

I've been running around North for quite a while and I've only seen a chicken there so far.

Read my other forum post on this subject, WIP of a proper hunting map 

Key to living off the land is not to rely on one single means of obtaining food.

Always collect wire as a backup for trapping, Netting for fishing I have a video on how to properly do this well. Here, some seeds to farm , And if worse come to worse, apple trees and berries are everywhere. 

 

 

Kudos sir!  You've got me seriously interested in reinstalling and playing again.

 

You should , DayZ is all about your interpretation of what it should be . What other game combines , GTA, Skyrim,CoD, And Big game hunter all into one ? 

I think I've fired 6 or 7 rounds in .59...

I've been using the same pack of .308 for over a week now, Just switched from a Winchester to a blaze a few days ago . .. Mostly chosen for its better hunting use , op nature , and extreme rarity of the .308 ammo type, further emphasising the "rare ammo" struggle.  Of course I am always on the hunt for a new VSS . because of it ideal PvE nature . 

[Espa 711]

Hahaha good read. I'm glad I'm not the only one who considers others when I go about my actions in game.

 

This extends to helping people gear up directly or indirectly by leaving guns (that I don't need) and magazines next to each other, as well as bullets.

 

And on occasion, if I find someone elses barrel and gauge how hard it was to find it. If the difficulty was enough, I see if I can add to their goods with things they may desire.

[sneakydudes 278]

LMAO's to all the people saying anything in a video game ethical. Its a game, and nothing ethical about killing someone going for meat too. Its a game, you freaks.

 

You all are too funny. Hunt have fun they re spawn. A poacher? wtf are you on, glue folks?

 

Hehe i just had to say something, i cant believe my eyes.

[emuthreat 2837]

There's no need to kill an animal for fun. Most of the hunters IRL do this, they kill for fun not for the meat. I guess the same goes for the guys playing.

I don't know where you are getting your "most hunters" data, but I think your numbers might be a bit off.  If you are talking about people who pay tens of thousands of dollars go travel to another continent and kill something rare for a cool mount/rug, that is definitely not the majority.  Here in the western US at least, people who hunt big game and waterfowl do so for the meat.  The forests are crawling with game cops who have a boner for issuing citations.  Going to the trouble of hauling all that gear out into the woods and shooting a deer, just to let it sit and rot; only to be tracked down by the combination of ATV and pickup tire tread patterns for a humongous fine and confiscation of the rifle involved is not a very attractive prospect for anybody that I know.  Thanks for perpetuating ill-informed stereotypes though.

[yazar8 584]

I don't know where you are getting your "most hunters" data, but I think your numbers might be a bit off. If you are talking about people who pay tens of thousands of dollars go travel to another continent and kill something rare for a cool mount/rug, that is definitely not the majority. Here in the western US at least, people who hunt big game and waterfowl do so for the meat. The forests are crawling with game cops who have a boner for issuing citations. Going to the trouble of hauling all that gear out into the woods and shooting a deer, just to let it sit and rot; only to be tracked down by the combination of ATV and pickup tire tread patterns for a humongous fine and confiscation of the rifle involved is not a very attractive prospect for anybody that I know. Thanks for perpetuating ill-informed stereotypes though.

That is interesting. Here boars are only shot for fun because people don't eat pork.

Edited January 6, 2016 by Yazar8

[q.S Sachiel 470]

I don't know where you are getting your "most hunters" data, but I think your numbers might be a bit off.  If you are talking about people who pay tens of thousands of dollars go travel to another continent and kill something rare for a cool mount/rug, that is definitely not the majority.  Here in the western US at least, people who hunt big game and waterfowl do so for the meat.  The forests are crawling with game cops who have a boner for issuing citations.  Going to the trouble of hauling all that gear out into the woods and shooting a deer, just to let it sit and rot; only to be tracked down by the combination of ATV and pickup tire tread patterns for a humongous fine and confiscation of the rifle involved is not a very attractive prospect for anybody that I know.  Thanks for perpetuating ill-informed stereotypes though.

I was going to leave it but good to see you got in there.

I bet the African / overseas game hunts (where the animal is generally bred for sport) gets snapped up and used.  If you only take the head, they'd be crazy to not also skin the sucker, use the bones and meat...

 

If you're talking about pest control, culls and what not: i can understand not taking the meat (it's usually infested, and culls involve hundreds or thousands of kills, pest control less voluminous but still) although there are social and biological concerns with leaving corpses out in fields.

 

Still, any cause requiring the killing, gutting and consuming of my fellow man is one that i can get behind.

This is the moral of the story.   Don't mess with the cows!

 

 

Could you please tell me where to reliably find any game?

I've been running around North for quite a while and I've only seen a chicken there so far.

 

I find my game mid-map around Zeleno and to the East slightly, in the smaller villages there.  The last few patches i saw them in, they seemed to have a set migration pattern, and didn't free-roam.  This means they should be pretty easy to find once you identify their spots.

 

Chickens i'm not sure of where they are really.  I hear they spawn a radius from 'chicken coops'.  I do actually run into them quite often, and i'm surprised at how easy it is to hear them (and rabbits!!!).  Chickens cluck quite audibly and are easy to find, while rabbits generally will wait until you get right up on top of them, which is when they dart off. 

 

I've nearly shat myself several times due to rabbits thumping the ground as they flee, thinking someone was charging me or something...  Once you blink a few times, and you realise you're not dead, it's quite easy to find them, particularly if there's a degree of angle to the ground (ie: not flat and grassy).

 

Pigs, i'm not sure if pigs are in the game anymore.  All i know, pig is unicorn of dayz.  I miss shrub :(

Edited January 6, 2016 by q.S Sachiel

[cash81 506]

I think I've fired 6 or 7 rounds in .59...

I fired a shit ton today. I decided to clear a town with my amphibian. What a great weapon. Can sneak up and pop infected in the head without alerting the others. Now im on the hunt for more .22 ammo!! :)

[Zurvivalist 300]

 

 

Pigs, i'm not sure if pigs are in the game anymore.  All i know, pig is unicorn of dayz.  I miss shrub :(

Pigs are in , I've shot a few in my travels.

I have so far shot Elk, Cattle, Deer,Hogs, Chickens , and caught all the fish. 

Have yet to see a living rabbit , or fox, or any of the others that might be ingame.

 

Chicken Huntin   

 

Tonight was actually the first time I bothered testing out the improvised fish trap made from a PET water bottle .

After catching six of them , I recalled a video from awhile back using a knife to gut them , which would turn the little pile of sardines into one fish fillet . 

I tried this , but did not get the option . 

Just Eat and Eat all , 

So I ate some . ( no frying pan to cook fish on ) 

Got an upset stomach a few minutes later . Did not get a change to try cooking them on a stick before the server suddenly restarted and i lost my traps . 

 

Anyone know for sure the proper way to process and cook sardines ? 

[cash81 506]

I don't know where you are getting your "most hunters" data, but I think your numbers might be a bit off.  If you are talking about people who pay tens of thousands of dollars go travel to another continent and kill something rare for a cool mount/rug, that is definitely not the majority.  Here in the western US at least, people who hunt big game and waterfowl do so for the meat.  The forests are crawling with game cops who have a boner for issuing citations.  Going to the trouble of hauling all that gear out into the woods and shooting a deer, just to let it sit and rot; only to be tracked down by the combination of ATV and pickup tire tread patterns for a humongous fine and confiscation of the rifle involved is not a very attractive prospect for anybody that I know.  Thanks for perpetuating ill-informed stereotypes though.

Not to mention the fact that many places accept donations of wild game. Some of the guys my dad used to hunt with always donated their share to their local mission (soup kitchen).

So even those who dont actually eat their kill, the food still goes to feed the hungry or friends and family. :)

[emuthreat 2837]

That is interesting. Here boars are only shot for fun because people don't eat pork.

In the southern United States, there is a problem with feral hogs that have hybridized with the Eurasian boar.  Google "Pigzilla" if you like.  At several points after European colonization, Eurasian boars were imported from Germany as a game species, and interbred with feral agricultural hogs.  Hogs were not native to North America, and the feral populations are considered to be an invasive nuisance species.  Even so, the people who hunt these hogs--often as a professional service provided to landowners for a fee--will at the very least harvest all the meat from them; they will often donate it to homeless shelters, or food banks.

 

Out west, there is an abundance of open spaces and wildlife refuges with generally healthy ecosystems.  Ironically, "wildlife refuge" is a euphemism for "federally managed waterfowl hunting facilitation."  In Oregon alone, there are controlled hunts for bighorn sheep, deer--both buck and doe, elk, pronghorn antelope, rocky mountain goat, cougar, and bear.  At times the number of controlled hunt tags issued are in the single digits for some species, as they are that closely managed.  There are also seasons for seven different species of upland fowl, duck and goose season, and wild turkey.  In every case except cougar, the hunter is expected, and legally required, to harvest and not waste the meats of these animals.

 

There is also a general hunting activity known as "varmint shooting," in which property owners seek to remove an overabundance of certain species artificially supported by their agricultural activities.  People generally leave the carcasses of these smaller nuisance species for scavenger birds or coyotes.  Many farmers and ranchers also cull the populations of coyotes due to the impact on the local food chain, of their providing a food source for an artificially large population of prey animals.  To my knowledge, varmint shooting is the only hunting activity in which it is generally accepted to leave the carcass of the animals shot.  While this practice may be controversial to people from urban areas and no practical experience with land management, it is ubiquitous due to necessity.  I once did some work for a farmer who claimed to expend upwards of 7000 rounds of .223 ammunition in a single year, shooting at ground squirrels on his large alfalfa ranch.  This same farmer also had purchased an entire pallet of chewing gum to feed to the squirrels, as he was told that it would kill them by gumming up their digestive systems, while passing through larger, non-target species.  An acre of alfalfa can support over a hundred individual squirrels, collectively capable of eating nearly a ton of material in a season.  Left unmitigated, these unnaturally large populations of squirrels can reduce the yield of an alfalfa farm by 20 to 30 percent.  It gets bad enough that cattle ranchers on irrigated range land, tired of seeing broken ankles on their cattle from having stepped into burrows, will post paid advertisements in the newspaper seeking people to come out to their property and shoot every squirrel they see.  I understand that some people may not agree with varmint shooting as an ethical option for ensuring the safety of crops and livestock.  I guess if people feel it is wrong for farmers to kill those squirrels, they should consider how they would react to having rats in their house that steal thirty percent of their paycheck every week.

[Zurvivalist 300]

~Snip~

I have a feeling we will see this argument again in the future of this game . When it comes to culling the wild dog and wolf populations. 

And to those few that had something to say about the the theme of this post... come on guys.. don't break the fourth wall on a story that is obviously role play in nature......

[Red_Ensign 990]

Pigs, i'm not sure if pigs are in the game anymore.  All i know, pig is unicorn of dayz.  I miss shrub :(

 

I've shot 3 this patch in the field at 100 094.  I used to run into them coming in & out of my public camp before it moved.  I've killed them in other places too (sorry shrub :-p)

 

if you're looking for a pelt for a pack there's one in at the new public camp (location in my profile).  I tan everything else, but keep boar pelts whole.

[yazar8 584]

In the southern United States, there is a problem with feral hogs that have hybridized with the Eurasian boar.  Google "Pigzilla" if you like.  At several points after European colonization, Eurasian boars were imported from Germany as a game species, and interbred with feral agricultural hogs.  Hogs were not native to North America, and the feral populations are considered to be an invasive nuisance species.  Even so, the people who hunt these hogs--often as a professional service provided to landowners for a fee--will at the very least harvest all the meat from them; they will often donate it to homeless shelters, or food banks.

 

Out west, there is an abundance of open spaces and wildlife refuges with generally healthy ecosystems.  Ironically, "wildlife refuge" is a euphemism for "federally managed waterfowl hunting facilitation."  In Oregon alone, there are controlled hunts for bighorn sheep, deer--both buck and doe, elk, pronghorn antelope, rocky mountain goat, cougar, and bear.  At times the number of controlled hunt tags issued are in the single digits for some species, as they are that closely managed.  There are also seasons for seven different species of upland fowl, duck and goose season, and wild turkey.  In every case except cougar, the hunter is expected, and legally required, to harvest and not waste the meats of these animals.

 

There is also a general hunting activity known as "varmint shooting," in which property owners seek to remove an overabundance of certain species artificially supported by their agricultural activities.  People generally leave the carcasses of these smaller nuisance species for scavenger birds or coyotes.  Many farmers and ranchers also cull the populations of coyotes due to the impact on the local food chain, of their providing a food source for an artificially large population of prey animals.  To my knowledge, varmint shooting is the only hunting activity in which it is generally accepted to leave the carcass of the animals shot.  While this practice may be controversial to people from urban areas and no practical experience with land management, it is ubiquitous due to necessity.  I once did some work for a farmer who claimed to expend upwards of 7000 rounds of .223 ammunition in a single year, shooting at ground squirrels on his large alfalfa ranch.  This same farmer also had purchased an entire pallet of chewing gum to feed to the squirrels, as he was told that it would kill them by gumming up their digestive systems, while passing through larger, non-target species.  An acre of alfalfa can support over a hundred individual squirrels, collectively capable of eating nearly a ton of material in a season.  Left unmitigated, these unnaturally large populations of squirrels can reduce the yield of an alfalfa farm by 20 to 30 percent.  It gets bad enough that cattle ranchers on irrigated range land, tired of seeing broken ankles on their cattle from having stepped into burrows, will post paid advertisements in the newspaper seeking people to come out to their property and shoot every squirrel they see.  I understand that some people may not agree with varmint shooting as an ethical option for ensuring the safety of crops and livestock.  I guess if people feel it is wrong for farmers to kill those squirrels, they should consider how they would react to having rats in their house that steal thirty percent of their paycheck every week.

 

This is interesting. Here you can find empty shells while running at the forest. Yeah people are that careless, they don't even collect their shells. You'll smell this scent and you'll know there's a boar rotting somewhere around you.  Yeah so I see, people here are more sloppy then.

Edited January 6, 2016 by Yazar8