New distant lightsource mechanics?

[ZomboWTF 527]

So, today i saw something i never saw in my few years of playing DayZ Standalone and Mod: Light sources outside of player render range

 

Full Story:

I was derping around in the north pretty far north, when i saw a castle and went up the tower, i guess it was Black mountain, but i'm not sure of it

Anyway, far in the distant, way outside of player render range, i saw two bright little dots moving, going into houses, disappearing, appearing again etc.

 

i had no scope with me so i couldn't confirm there were players, but what other explanation is there?

i guess the devs introduced a mechanic with which you can see far away lightsources at night now, so be wary of that when looking for loot in the dark, or when lighting a campfire, i'll be testing the campfire thing out soon myself

 

the town must've been about 1000 - 1200 meters away, the dots were jumping up and down while moving, looking like they were atatched to the players arms

 

Server was UK 0-6 on experimental 0.58, at around 3:50 GMT, town must have been Gvodzno,

the players then moved around the south of the castle in direction of krasnostav

 

Can somebody confirm that or test it?

[BCBasher 2465]

So, today i saw something i never saw in my few years of playing DayZ Standalone and Mod: Light sources outside of player render range

 

Full Story:

I was derping around in the north pretty far north, when i saw a castle and went up the tower, i guess it was Black mountain, but i'm not sure of it

Anyway, far in the distant, way outside of player render range, i saw two bright little dots moving, going into houses, disappearing, appearing again etc.

 

i had no scope with me so i couldn't confirm there were players, but what other explanation is there?

i guess the devs introduced a mechanic with which you can see far away lightsources at night now, so be wary of that when looking for loot in the dark, or when lighting a campfire, i'll be testing the campfire thing out soon myself

 

the town must've been about 1000 - 1200 meters away, the dots were jumping up and down while moving, looking like they were atatched to the players arms

 

Server was UK 0-6 on experimental 0.58, at around 3:50 GMT, town must have been Gvodzno,

the players then moved around the south of the castle in direction of krasnostav

 

Can somebody confirm that or test it?

 

News to me and I played allot of .58.

[blackberrygoo 1416]

This is interesting ... I will have to test this tonight when I play next to see what's up ... Hopefully somebody is doing something in the dark ;)

[SaveMeJebus 164]

OoOOoOoo .. Maybe first signs of the new renderer? Or will that be more of an all at once thing?

[tiadashi 262]

That sounds fun I would like to experience that

[boneboys 7988]

No screenie ?

It ain't Rocket science nowadays.

[Arthur Dubrovka 376]

can someone test it with a fireplace kit? If its true it would be awesome... :)

[Bororm 1156]

Hate to burst the bubble but stuff just doesn't render past the network bubble so you're probably mistaken on the distance.

 

Especially if you weren't using a scope, you weren't seeing anything that far away.

 

 

The majority of Kras from black mountain is less than 1km.

Edited August 2, 2015 by Bororm

[Arthur Dubrovka 376]

...damn

[ZomboWTF 527]

gonna try getting a screenshot or even better a video today, i hope this will work with fireplaces or i will have severe problems recreating it, definitely will try to find a lamp + gas canister, too

 

the distance was definitely above my player render range though, at least above the limit at which the players rendered without a scope, else i would have seen the players with my "normal eye" zoom factor

Edited August 2, 2015 by Zombo

[Bororm 1156]

gonna try getting a screenshot or even better a video today, i hope this will work with fireplaces or i will have severe problems recreating it, definitely will try to find a lamp + gas canister, too

 

the distance was definitely above my player render range though, at least above the limit at which the players rendered without a scope, else i would have seen the players with my "normal eye" zoom factor

 

Considering how garbage the regular zoom is now you can barely make out people at 300m any more.  Your player render distance is affected by your object detail I think, but again nothing renders at all past your network bubble (1km) because your client isn't receiving that information at all.

 

Also, fireplaces don't register past about 100-150m in my experience.  You can't see them from even half of one end of the airfield run way to the other (talking width, not length).  Admittedly that was months ago though.

 

Do test it all though, if I'm wrong that's great.

[preacherlr 614]

No screenie ?

It ain't Rocket science nowadays.

Pics or it didn't happen.

[eno 1049]

Possible the guys were carrying their stock (or found) chem lights? 

[ZomboWTF 527]

okay, static light sources do not seem to render at all beyond a few meters, at least not flares and camp fires

 

still need to test this with a chemlight or gas lantern though, or even a flashlight, however finding a flashlight/battery or a chemlight proves difficult, and it seems that butane gas canisters don't spawn at all in the current 0.58 experimental

 

i'm gonna try to make a freshspawn run with his flare in his hand away from me, maybe light sources attached to players behave differently

i'm pretty sure i wasn't hallucinating last night, however it WAS 4:00 am in the morning, and there are always weird things happening at night on mountains with a color in their names

Edited August 2, 2015 by Zombo

[odin_lowe 3686]

okay, static light sources do not seem to render at all beyond a few meters, at least not flares and camp fires

 

still need to test this with a chemlight or gas lantern though, or even a flashlight, however finding a flashlight/battery or a chemlight proves difficult, and it seems that butane gas canisters don't spawn at all in the current 0.58 experimental

 

i'm gonna try to make a freshspawn run with his flare in his hand away from me, maybe light sources attached to players behave differently

i'm pretty sure i wasn't hallucinating last night, however it WAS 4:00 am in the morning, and there are always weird things happening at night on mountains with a color in their names

Don't forget to try to use the torches too. (Not the UK way of saying "flashlight", but the craft-able torches made of wood and rags.)

[wasnu (DayZ) 392]

okay, static light sources do not seem to render at all beyond a few meters, at least not flares and camp fires

 

still need to test this with a chemlight or gas lantern though, or even a flashlight, however finding a flashlight/battery or a chemlight proves difficult, and it seems that butane gas canisters don't spawn at all in the current 0.58 experimental

 

i'm gonna try to make a freshspawn run with his flare in his hand away from me, maybe light sources attached to players behave differently

i'm pretty sure i wasn't hallucinating last night, however it WAS 4:00 am in the morning, and there are always weird things happening at night on mountains with a color in their names

 

gas latern could be seen the same distance like campfires or flares, round about 100 meters.

 

someone said chemlights could be seen from farer distance, but i never tested it.

[ZomboWTF 527]

Don't forget to try to use the torches too. (Not the UK way of saying "flashlight", but the craft-able torches made of wood and rags.)

wow thanks, totally forgot them :D

 

edit: torches don't work either, now it's down to flashlight, chemlight and lantern

 

damn it, playing the whole day to find these damn things and so far only have the gas lamp...

Edited August 2, 2015 by Zombo

[stinkenheim 249]

I've seen a player holding a chemlight from about 600m away in novo hospital (I was in the hills by the radio tower) in .57 stable.

[emuthreat 2837]

 butane gas canisters don't spawn at all in the current 0.58 experimental

False!  The correct wording would be that you haven't yet seen a butane gas canister on .58 experimental.

 

The northern corridor is lousy with them.  Hell, I even killed three zombies at the summer camp NW of Svergino.

[ZomboWTF 527]

Finally found a butane canister to plug into my lamp and tried it, the video is currently being encoded from fraps avi to mp4 in order for the youtube upload not to take a year, result range where the lamp was visible was about 250 meters
 
The lamps light however is very bright and big, do not recommend to walk around with that thing O.o
 
video will be up shortly, searching for flashlight and chemlight now...

 

https://youtu.be/eggYJ-6Vusk

 

i made a picture on the dayzdb map where this was, but cant put it into a post
 

False!  The correct wording would be that you haven't yet seen a butane gas canister on .58 experimental.
 
The northern corridor is lousy with them.  Hell, I even killed three zombies at the summer camp NW of Svergino.

 

and it seems that butane gas canisters don't spawn at all in the current 0.58 experimentals

Edited August 2, 2015 by Zombo

[trupciks 23]

Chemlights often spawns in police stations

[Bororm 1156]

Good work Zombo.

 

I'd be interested in how far a truck's lights go too.

[ZomboWTF 527]

Ok, some new things about light sources and distant rendering:

I tested a few things about render distance regarding flaregun-flares, roadflares and ghillie render distance with a fellow survivor named Liandri (Many thanks for the help ^^)

 

1) Road Flares are rendering at about 300 meters, after that both the model of the flare and the light source are gone

 

2) Flare gun Flares are rendering WAY further out, more than 650 meters

 

3) Ghillie suits: Having a ghillie suit actually makes you render FURTHER out, we tried this with very low settings,

     and the ghillied player stopped rendering at about 300 meters, while the player without a ghillie suit stopped rendering at 250 meters,

     no more ghillie magical invisibility

[ZomboWTF 527]

An additional test with Liandri revealed that truck light is rendering from 500 to 900 meters out,

depending on field of view, with minimum field of view about 500, with maximum about 900

this is only the light effect of the truck btw, the lightbulbs on the truck itself stop rendering way before that, at about 100 meters

 

it would make sense if all other light sources behaved the same way, rendering further out the tighter your field of view is

Edited August 10, 2015 by Zombo

[Death By Crowbar 1213]

This is all good. Light sources at night are the benefit/risk they should be when it renders that far. I wonder if some of the render distances for light sources change when they're carried by a player? For example, I can't see a shirt from very far, but I can see a shirt ON a player maybe 250 meters. Past about 800 meters I just see a head and arms, I don't even see players shirts, pants, etc anymore. I forget when that started but it's hilarious.