Exp Update: 0.58 + Hot Fix.

[odin_lowe 3686]

Then you have no right to criticize it, the same as someone who doesn't vote has no right to criticize elected officials. End of discussion.

Thing is, anything WIKI related in the world can't be taken seriously....  

 

Unless the devs themselves makes their own wiki page, using the data from their own game, the data on the wiki pages are provided by third party individuals, which isn't really reliable in my opinion.

 

I trust you man, and respect you a lot, but it's just insane to compare politics to wiki. No matter if you vote or not, if you live in a country which has a government, not only do you have the right to criticize it, you must. If you don't, you're just a slave in a fictional "free" country.

 

The current situation in our world, call it civilization, goes against  the laws of nature, and is an insult to consciousness. It's sad, but true.

 

Back on topic, until the game is finished, it's bound to change, but for the time being, having facts to understand the current state of the game is crucial, but missing. Personally I think it's been like that for a while now. 

 

Unless I get info from people I trust, or the devs themselves, the only other source of information I trust is my own experience with the game.

 

Once we hit beta, this will probably be a thing of the past. Until then, let's just enjoy the game, as any other form of entertainment, if possible. 

[BCBasher 2465]

It's kind of embarrassing to admit this, but the new one confuses me sometimes. I can never make up my mind which way is South and which way is North until I hit landmarks I am familiar with.

 

I used to be a whiz with orienteering and such at survival camps with air cadets, I've been teaching junior by not letting him suicide for a better spawn to meet up. Although we "cheat" and use stopwatch and app to get an exact bearing and eta we can meet in the middle of the woods at night reliably.

 

Both compasses north is the red end of the pointer or 0° east is 90° and so on clockwise back to 359° which is just shy of north again. 

[odin_lowe 3686]

 

found one in .57 on exp. and it worked fine. don´t know if if needs an mag but the one i found needs no mag.

 

cool weapon

:thumbsup:

 

 

I think it needs a stripper clip, but if you don't find one, you can use the loose ammo to load it, similar to the SKS. 

 

Cool weapon indeed.  B)

[wasnu (DayZ) 392]

Report it, I've been dying to try but haven't seen any big game in weeks except for one unknown in the distance around Msta but I had the truck on my todolist at the time and making noise around there on a half full server didn't seem like a good idea. 

 

have seen 3 cows on southcentral-04 today at the coast in kamenka....

 

was like WTF... mooohh...mooohh...

 

shit my pants cause i never saw an animal bigger then an chicken there.

 

The "old" spawn locations (chopper and animals) on dayzTV are now real and working.

 

i am most of my time around kamenka and have now seen one chopper crash and today the 3 cows, i love it.

 

And i can confirm, pelt and fertilizer used in an barrel will get you nada..nothing...all will be gone to data nirvana.

 

will test the "old" way without an barrel

[Tatanko 5591]

That's a fallacious argument, plain and simple.

Except it isn't. With the wiki you have direct capability to make changes yourself. If you aren't happy with something, and you don't change it, then you are as much responsible for its inaccuracy as anyone else.

 

There is *almost* no intentionally misleading content on the entire site; when someone does publish something nefarious it almost immediately gets rectified. It has to be a group effort because its impossible for one person to maintain such an expansive knowledge base. The unfortunate reality is, only a few people actually contribute anything sizable -- and then people like you come along and complain about accuracy while simultaneously doing nothing to improve the situation.

[Super_Duty 466]

I always have a regular compass on me, and I still run off in the wrong direction sometimes.  Just the other day, I didn't catch it until I was halfway across the map. Called myself names while shaking my head for the hour reverse trek.

 

It's kind of embarrassing to admit this, but the new one confuses me sometimes. I can never make up my mind which way is South and which way is North until I hit landmarks I am familiar with.

[odin_lowe 3686]

In some buildings the same items seem to spawn twice. (Also the small civilian buildings with a lot of doors and clothing in it). I played on "US-Southeast-01":

 

It felt like becoming a creature of the wood when wearing those autumn hunting clothing:

 

I met some animals and they seem to respawn with every server restart in front of me:

 

Even when playing on low settings DayZ is still looking beautiful for me:

Was the boar you found, while at the deer stand, south of Pusta, north of Elektro? Around here: http://dayzdb.com/map#6.093.119

 

Nice look you got there!  :thumbsup:   B)

[ColdAtrophy 1850]

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Guys, I know this isn't my place, but I think Boneboys is getting ready to force an end to this back and forth. Y'all might want to quit while you still can choose to do so.

[Tatanko 5591]

Guys, I know this isn't my place, but I think Boneboys is getting ready to force an end to this back and forth. Y'all might want to quit while you still can choose to do so.

You're right. I'll behave.

[Etherimp 1323]

Except it isn't. With the wiki you have direct capability to make changes yourself. If you aren't happy with something, and you don't change it, then you are as much responsible for its inaccuracy as anyone else.

 

There is *almost* no intentionally misleading content on the entire site; when someone does publish something nefarious it almost immediately gets rectified. It has to be a group effort because its impossible for one person to maintain such an expansive knowledge base. The unfortunate reality is, only a few people actually contribute anything sizable -- and then people like you come along and complain about accuracy while simultaneously doing nothing to improve the situation.

 

 

I do not have all the time in the world. I work 4 10's a week, and often OT on Fridays. The rest of my time I spend on forums, playing various games, keeping up on the UFC (watching events on Sat nights), and taking care of my real world responsibilities.. I do not feel like adding "UPDATE THE DAYZ WIKI" to my list of things to do. My only HOPE is that there are other people out there who are "in the know" enough to update the wiki so that people like myself who do not have time to do so can depend upon it.. But as Odin said, there's no OFFICIAL "source" for DayZ information outside of the devs twitter and status reports, but none of that covers "spawns" and what "is and isn't" in the game.

 

I like you, I respect you, I enjoy most of the conversation that happens here in this thread and it was not my intention to disturb that or cause an argument. I am not trying to argue with you here. The point of my post was for INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY.. It was not a jab at the Devs or the game, or even the Wiki. I play a lot of the game and I wanted to get people to come to some kind of consensus as to what is and is not spawning.

 

That's all.

[IMT 3190]

The thing is, I saw the VSS in action back in 0.57 experimental. 

 

We have to assume our scientific team is correct when they say this or that item doesn't spawn, as the only proof we could really have is the loot table.

 

I can only depend on myself and those who I trust to let me know what's in the current loot tables, officially spawning, and what's not.

 

For one, I can confirm that the plastic compass that was added in 0.54 doesn't spawn, at all.

How about the thermometer?

[BCBasher 2465]

have seen 3 cows on southcentral-04 today at the coast in kamenka....

 

was like WTF... mooohh...mooohh...

 

shit my pants cause i never saw an animal bigger then an chicken there.

 

The "old" spawn locations (chopper and animals) on dayzTV are now real and working.

 

i am most of my time around kamenka and have now seen one chopper crash and today the 3 cows, i love it.

 

And i can confirm, pelt and fertilizer used in an barrel will get you nada..nothing...all will be gone to data nirvana.

 

will test the "old" way without an barrel

 

I play exclusively on 1pp servers fwiw and have seen one herd of bugged deer, about 6 chickens and the unknown large animal in the distance the other night. I was really torn about the last one because it was moving and not bugged and might have even been a goat which is on my list of ones I haven't shot yet.

 

I'm feeling kind of burnt about playing since Thursday and might just wait until this goes to stable so my hoarding, camp building will not just go to waste. Really looking forward to trying this build on a private server where I think it'll really shine. 

[Tatanko 5591]

I like you, I respect you, I enjoy most of the conversation that happens here in this thread and it was not my intention to disturb that or cause an argument.

Ditto <3  :beans:

[odin_lowe 3686]

 

 

As well, for some reason you are listing weapons that are not even complete yet.

Hmm. Maybe not completed yet, but the VSS and Red9 were both spawning in 0.57 experimental. That might have been a mistake to put them in the loot tables, but they were spawning, and were both functional.

[odin_lowe 3686]

How about the thermometer?

I found quite a lot of these recently.

 

But I don't use it. (Unless I talk over VOIP, my character doesn't open his mouth, so I don't want to use the other hole to check my temp...   ;) )

[wasnu (DayZ) 392]

Hmm. Maybe not completed yet, but the VSS and Red9 were both spawning in 0.57 experimental. That might have been a mistake to put them in the loot tables, but they were spawning, and were both functional.

 

like the radio which was playing "nice" music.

in this case hicks stated it was an fault in the loottable and the radio was not finished to add it ingame, but it was there like vss and red9.

[wasnu (DayZ) 392]

I found quite a lot of these recently.

 

But I don't use it. (Unless I talk over VOIP, my character doesn't open his mouth, so I don't want to use the other hole to check my temp...   ;) )

 

LOL...you can have mine, it´s only used one time.... :D

[VikingzTV 1]

Except it isn't. With the wiki you have direct capability to make changes yourself. If you aren't happy with something, and you don't change it, then you are as much responsible for its inaccuracy as anyone else.

 

There is *almost* no intentionally misleading content on the entire site; when someone does publish something nefarious it almost immediately gets rectified. It has to be a group effort because its impossible for one person to maintain such an expansive knowledge base. The unfortunate reality is, only a few people actually contribute anything sizable -- and then people like you come along and complain about accuracy while simultaneously doing nothing to improve the situation.

With all due respect, I believe I speak for many people here when I say that we would really appreciate if you took this debate into private messages or a new topic on the forum. This is a place for reporting and commenting on findings in the experimental branch, not debating whether the information on or the DayZ Wiki itself is official or not. 

-VikingzTV [Matt]

[BCBasher 2465]

With all due respect, I believe I speak for many people here when I say that we would really appreciate if you took this debate into private messages or a new topic on the forum. This is a place for reporting and commenting on findings in the experimental branch, not debating whether the information on or the DayZ Wiki itself is official or not. 

-VikingzTV [Matt]

 

Where were you an hour ago? I've been cowing under my desk waiting for "mommy and daddy" to stop fighting.

 

[emuthreat 2837]

It's kind of embarrassing to admit this, but the new one confuses me sometimes. I can never make up my mind which way is South and which way is North until I hit landmarks I am familiar with.

I thought that the plastic orienteering compass has an asymmetrical shape and a heading arrow to line up your route on a map.  Arrow points north, in the larger plastic field of the compass base.

[IMT 3190]

When it is active I'd start off slowly adding materials, the more I played with making fertilizer the more I got confused about the actual formula to get a 100% bag. The best I did was 83% but only got 70% with a combination that seemed like it would make more.

I got a 100 % bag with 300 % Pile of Small Guts and 1000 % Plant Material. It consumed like 10 % of each Plant Material stack and all 300 % of Pile of Small Guts.

[VikingzTV 1]

Where were you an hour ago? I've been cowing under my desk waiting for "mommy and daddy" to stop fighting.

 

lmao!! x'D

[BCBasher 2465]

I thought that the plastic orienteering compass has an asymmetrical shape and a heading arrow to line up your route on a map.  Arrow points north, in the larger plastic field of the compass base.

 

Not sure what you mean exactly but I found it to be no improvement seeing as you couldn't adjust the dial or couple it with the paper maps found in game to actually use it properly. Might just be my display setup but I couldn't read the heading numbers at all on it and had to guess at anything other than 045°s and 090°s. I'd like to see it being able to be used with a paper map and pen to be able to mark your map and plot courses but have a feeling that'd be pretty clunky if implemented.

 

With the old style one I can read the heading down to the 010°s and guess the 001°s jog a heading for x minutes turn to a new heading and jog x minutes to dog leg around things fairly reliably.  Being able to mark the map and a watch in game would be a nice addition for me to let go of my dependence on my smartphone. 

[wasnu (DayZ) 392]

Not sure what you mean exactly but I found it to be no improvement seeing as you couldn't adjust the dial or couple it with the paper maps found in game to actually use it properly. Might just be my display setup but I couldn't read the heading numbers at all on it and had to guess at anything other than 045°s and 090°s. I'd like to see it being able to be used with a paper map and pen to be able to mark your map and plot courses but have a feeling that'd be pretty clunky if implemented.

 

With the old style one I can read the heading down to the 010°s and guess the 001°s jog a heading for x minutes turn to a new heading and jog x minutes to dog leg around things fairly reliably.  Being able to mark the map and a watch in game would be a nice addition for me to let go of my dependence on my smartphone. 

 

 

why not, could be an dev´s plan for the future. 

there were many peps who wanted an "map" which ways and roads their toon travelled in his live until he is dead.

This would fit perfect for it, need an pen an plastic compass and the full map and here we go.

 

EDIT: btw, in .57 you could find the plastic compass in the empty box after eating the whole cornflakes box, not tested in .58 but it should be in as "easter egg".

Edited August 1, 2015 by wasnu

[IMT 3190]

why not, could be an dev´s plan for the future. 

there were many peps who wanted an "map" which ways and roads their toon travelled in his live until he is dead.

This would fit perfect for it, need an pen an plastic compass and the full map and here we go.

 

EDIT: btw, in .57 you could find the plastic compass in the empty box after eating the whole cornflakes box, not tested in .58 but it should be in as "easter egg".

I ate one today and didn't get a compass.