What's the current hacking status like in DayZ:SA?

[scriptfactory 620]

Yeah lets add WarZ's "anti-cheat"! Because it actually does something ... oh wait nope it's just a piece of shit stat-tracking system that bans players for being too good and ignore's the hackers.

It's working pretty well for Battlefield 4. I'm pretty sure it is all about the implementation. Something like FairFight would at least get rid of the teleporters, speedhackers and aimbotters. It is only useful for identifying hacker AFTER they cheat so an anti-cheat engine like BattleEye/PB would still be necessary. AFAIK WarZ doesn't have an anti-cheat engine and only uses FairFight.

[captain_finnish 134]

Yeah lets add WarZ's "anti-cheat"! Because it actually does something ... oh wait nope it's just a piece of shit stat-tracking system that bans players for being too good and ignore's the hackers.

Agreed. Antihacking program that is based on stats will never work with DayZ, ever. "Oh your K/D ratio in DayZ is too good, lets ban you"

[Weedz 1105]

Agreed. Antihacking program that is based on stats will never work with DayZ, ever. "Oh your K/D ratio in DayZ is too good, lets ban you"

Yeah it's so stupid easy to cheat just shoot a bunch into the ground there goes your accuracy stat. Intentionally get killed 500 times then start cheating there goes your KD stat

[anothercynicalbrit 166]

Also i am not sure if there has been a new battle eye ban wave but i have not bumped into a hacker or heard one for a while so i think we can rest easy for now. 

Edited March 31, 2014 by kichilron
Edited, as it was Frankie-Related

[nexventor 429]

I am speechless!

 

http://imgur.com/a/ZR5g5

[scriptfactory 620]

Yeah it's so stupid easy to cheat just shoot a bunch into the ground there goes your accuracy stat. Intentionally get killed 500 times then start cheating there goes your KD stat

 

This isn't the only way that FairFight works. It has multiple methods of cheat detection including ESP screenshots, hit accuracy/no-recoil detection (2 bullets hitting same spot) and positional sanity checks (e.g. teleporting, speedhacks, etc.). It is supposed to be used in conjunction with an anti-cheat engine like Punkbuster or BattleEye. I am high in the leaderboards for BF4 (which uses FairFight) and sometimes I go 30:1 in pub matches. I've never been banned from a false positive. It is all about HOW FairFight is implemented but everyone is ignoring this because WarZ. Nevermind.

[Weedz 1105]

This isn't the only way that FairFight works. It has multiple methods of cheat detection including ESP screenshots, hit accuracy/no-recoil detection (2 bullets hitting same spot) and positional sanity checks (e.g. teleporting, speedhacks, etc.). It is supposed to be used in conjunction with an anti-cheat engine like Punkbuster or BattleEye. I am high in the leaderboards for BF4 (which uses FairFight) and sometimes I go 30:1 in pub matches. I've never been banned from a false positive. It is all about HOW FairFight is implemented but everyone is ignoring this because WarZ. Nevermind.

I know. I also saw tons of my friends who weren't hacking (for some reason) get banned from WarZ because they were so good they shit all over the scrub hackers (corner camping OP) and stat tracking is stupid. I personally hardcore rage-hacked in WarZ for months (lol who didn't?) just to prove they effectively had no anti-cheat and am still not banned to this day because I knew how to completely get around how stupid it is. Also I really wanted to get banned so I had an excuse to quit and was sad that it never happened. I even stream sniped the cheating devs who would spawn shit in for themselves and their friends (the gun the kid is using in the following video wasn't even in the game) on many occasions using names like 101001010110 by shooting like 10 shots all around them then toggling and getting head shots on them and the group of 4+ people they were with and the devs would then even defend me on the stream saying "no I took a bunch of shots first he's probably just good aim". http://www.twitch.tv/weedz420/c/1804725 <shitty quality because I was recording their stream. I'm the one who kills them from "way over by Highway 1" across the map. I was actually like 50 feet away from them.

 

Why would you get banned for 30:1? ... I would consider that a bad round for myself in the new Call of Battlefield series. The vast majority of the kills I get in DayZ (or any other shooter) are head-shots (players and zombies) and I don't go around wasting ammo because it's a survival game. I also know how to control recoil. I don't want to get banned for this because they decide to add something that doesn't even work.

 

Fairfight is useless and wasn't even designed to be an anti-cheat. What it is meant for is to tell an actual anti-cheat "Hey look at this guy harder". There is no point in spending time and resources adding something that does nothing.

 

I even found a thread from BF4 where people are getting banned for being too good including the #1 chopper gunner in the world who was also top 20 in BF3.

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/forum/threadview/2955065670126678133/1/

Which also has the same retarded response people were saying for WarZ ... "IF you're not hacking and IF you play good just consider DYING sometimes to not be banned and than they also keep the game more *hack free* with this system. so next time, Learn to die sometimes to keep game cleaner"

 

Also ... screen shots? LoLoLoL yeah those do nothing and are the easiest thing to get around. In;B4 "Heclar Chet!" .. I actually used to develop anti-cheat scripts for America's Army. WarZ was one of 2 game's I've ever hacked in. The other was F.3.A.R. because they had no anti-cheat at all and you would get made fun of for not "hacking". Actually most other videos on my stream are from reporting hackers back when I played games on a toaster.

 

 

 

TL;DR - FairFight bad ... more like SkillFight

Edited March 31, 2014 by Weedz

[lykk 48]

Ive encountered 2 different kind of hackers after 200h+ of playing.

One hacker with duping and/or creating items.

And One guy had a PKP ingame and killed me.

Both of these were kind of obvious ;)

[captain_finnish 134]

Meh. Today I got killed by M4 unlimited ammo hacker :P He was camping behind one bridge and he started to shoot at me. I runned away and kinda trolled him because he didnt know how to shoot and he sprayed so many bullets at me that I just laughed at him and runned away from him. I heard him shooting at me at a distance and then I stopped and then he just spawned in front of me and sprayed his m4 at me again and after like 60 shots he got me :( Zombies are too fast and hackers are everywhere. Unplayable for me right now :(((

[simonhedin 4]

Simply: Is it possible to die from damage to all limbs? Some people have claimed that this occured when they were in odd nonpopulated area claiming a serverwide instakill hack. My guess is that a single shot only can hit one limb making my death impossible since i assume i cant take 4 shots instantaenously in that position.

 

Video below: Go to 2.24 for death messages.

 

http://www.twitch.tv/skrutttv/c/3985798

[sloshtt 17]

111 hours played encountered hackers teleporting and the rest in every high pop server so now I just join mid pop servers. Last hackers encountered yesterday. Australian servers. Very disappointing.

[kichilron 8550]

Remember, peoples:

 

Please do not turn this topic into a Frankie discussion. Stick to the topic.

 

I shall hide a few comments.

 

 

This also is nothing you should do, as it can easily get yourself a warning on here:

 

 

SO GO TO THE THREAD. TEAR EM A NEW ONE FOR BETRAYING YOU AND THE DEVS AND THE WHOLE COMMUNITY FOR USING AND SPREADING EXPLOITS AND FOR SPREADING A CULTURE OF CHEATING IN DAYZ IN GENERAL!!!

Edited March 31, 2014 by kichilron

[OrLoK 16182]

Hello there

 

Firstly no more on frankie's "did he or didnt he?" It's a no go topic.

 

Secondly, cleaning of the thread will now take place.

 

Rgds

 

LoK

[kichilron 8550]

I personally hardcore rage-hacked in WarZ for months

 

Which also has the same retarded response people were saying for WarZ ..

 

I actually used to develop anti-cheat scripts for America's Army.

 

 

You should never do that, even if it is WarZ. And especially not admitting to it publicly nor talk about it.

 

"The r-word" is also not appreciated around here.

 

Have you been successful developing ways to keep American soldiers from using wallhacks / 3DP abuse and Aimbots?

[Weedz 1105]

You should never do that, even if it is WarZ. And especially not admitting to it publicly nor talk about it.

 

Have you been successful developing ways to keep American soldiers from using wallhacks / 3DP abuse and Aimbots?

As I said I only did it to show my friends that they basically didn't have any anti-cheat. I'm admitting it because I don't hack in any other game so am not afraid of getting banned from anything. If someone wants to submit me to WarZ go for it; I haven't played that game for over a year and never plan to again as all my friends were banned while not even ever having been hacking like 80% of the people in the game do/did.

 

 

 

Yes, I worked in close corroboration with Allah and we have all but removed cheating from warfare to make it a level playing field.

Also did some for this videogame http://www.americasarmy.com/ before they ruined it with 3.0

Edited March 31, 2014 by Weedz

[doviszxc 194]

I'm not asking for hacks, I'm not asking how to hack.

 

I just shot a guy twice with buckshot to the chest/head, and he lived to hatchet me to death.

 

I remember my Mosin once dropped a guy, didn't kill him, but dropped him literally and he got up. (Took two shots to kill him).

 

Doesn't the shotgun do this too?

 

My friend then went on to unload 30-40 rounds into that guy, but he didn't die either. (M4)

 

Is there a glitch in DayZ atm where this happens, or are these hackers? Could they be admin abusers?

 

I also found a 300 rd ammo box with 58 rounds in each slot, 5.56, in a hospital.

 

So what's the hacking situation like atm in SA? Yeah yeah alpha is alpha, I just want to know how bad the hacking is. When it was bad during the mod, I stopped playing for a few months till it got better.

 

Oh, you haven't seen the horror I've seen. I'll tell you this story :

I run into Elektro when I spawn, get geared up. Then hear two people at the red houses where people camp. There was a fully kitted guy telling another one to put his pistol down. Long story short, the m4 guy shot him, the pistol guy ran away, the m4 guy went after me, didn't kill me after I explained to him that it;s not me who has the pistol. But for some reason, he was just spraying bullet everywhere, zombies, etc, never reloading. He got hit by a zombie and exited. I punched him till he was uncouncious, looked at his gear.... Look at his freaking magazine, that why he was spraying bullets never reloading :

 And every single item in his gear was pristine. He had 4 pristine protector cases, each  one had 1 saline bag, 2 morphines, 2 bandages and a epi-pen, also three 300 round boxes filled with shitton of bugged ammo. (( I believe he was duping items ))

 

But still, everything pristine, carried mosin and m4 with him, also all parts pristine.

 

EDIT : Those numbers to the left of the magazine are the number of bullets.

EDIT 2 : Everything I've got in my inventory , was picked up from him.

Edited March 31, 2014 by Doviszxc

[anothercynicalbrit 166]

Hello there

 

Firstly no more on frankie's "did he or didnt he?" It's a no go topic.

 

Secondly, cleaning of the thread will now take place.

 

Rgds

 

LoK

Sorry about that, i will bite my lip next time as it is a topic that could be debated for years and probably will be, all publicity is good publicity. All the while he will be rolling in cash and laughing at all of us.

[sloshtt 17]

I don't care what frankly seen or didn't see I know what I was seeing on a daily basis. People dping hacker stuff killing fresh spaws who probs just bought the game and aren't pig headed enough to put up with it for the good of the game. I found a way to mitigate the problem was trying to share that with the community. The topic of hacking should never be taboo in any community, it should be out the in the face of the community and developers in order to keep everyone one step ahead of those who can't shoot straight without some aim assist n what not.

I also understand secs would know how these hacks work and what they do and are doing thief utmost to prevent it. However the broader community does not thats why we get wild "zomg haxor" accusations knowledge people should educate them selfs about hacks so they can see the signs and look for ways around the problem on their end, for example i found a clip with 99 bullets in it thought well there is a hacker here new server time, where as others might think score and then get shot thru a wall quit the game and there is one less person helping the development of the game, which I thought was the point of an alpha.

I love the game and will play it till the wheels fall off but I'll not be cencored on the topic of hacking. Love you all :-)

[Weedz 1105]

I love the game and will play it till the wheels fall off but I'll not be cencored on the topic of hacking. Love you all :-)

I think the 19 page pinned thread that's been up for 3 months kinda shows they aren't censoring ...  ;)

 

I've been on forums for game's where they ban people for reporting hackers with video proof and delete the thread and then ban anyone for mentioning it.

Edited March 31, 2014 by Weedz

[sloshtt 17]

I think the 19 page pinned thread that's been up for 3 months kinda shows they aren't censoring ... ;)

Yeah fair :-)

[kakysas666 191]

Hardcore, Kamyshovo hacker killed me and my friend. Teleporting, shooting through walls. Only one friend was fast enough to log off. It as DE server, which is german, I think.

Edited April 1, 2014 by MaxRain

[OrLoK 16182]

Yeah fair :-)

Hello there

 

Do be aware that we *do* have rules, written and unwritten and if you or anyone wants to post here then they gotta abide by these rules, even if it goes against your sense of "freedom"

 

We are very free here with what we let you lot get away with, much more so than many other boards.

 

But, we do have a sense of order and what is *right for the forum*

 

So, post away, but if we see something that doesn't fit within our very loose guidelines we will indeed "censor" you. :)

 

As Weedz points out, this is a 21 page thread on and about hacking. We are not overly draconian in our approach.

 

Rgds

 

LoK

[Shingara 1]

Well a guy ran passed me at about 100 mph whilst blasting labamba over voip, he did about 7 laps around me before he disapeared over the sunset. Now im just gonna take a stab in the dark here but im guessing he was using a speedhack.

[scriptfactory 620]

I was killed again last night. NE airfield. 3 hackers in the western jail. I looked through the rear wall, as I always do because of ALL of the wall glitchers, and saw then. They waved at me. I ran away towards the town and doubled back around. I setup near the hangar. Somehow one of the guys duped his own body. I was shot through the jail and hangar wall. 1 shot kill. When are we getting a BattleEye update, again?

[pilgrim* 3513]

There are some (few) recognised hacks, the Devs are dealing with them in one way and another

 

SA cheating is NOT AT ALL as bad as the mod, where the scripts that a hacker could mess with were on his own PC, so he could more or less do anything until it was documented and detected at the server side. Hacks killed the mod pretty much.

 

Now SA is not on the same basis, there are maybe three possible entry points for scripting that are KNOWN. Those use the structure of the engine itself, so they will be dealt with, Bohemia know about them and are for sure deciding (testing) how to deal with them without messing the game up for players and without opening new entry points for hackers.

 

One or two hackers do it for interest (they'd be be better off aiming at the international banking system, in my view, but they scared because banks can be HEAVY ..lol) Most scripters, 99 of 100, are doing this simply because you can sell your script to SUCKERS for cash, its a variety on internet porn.. no other reason.. and they don't care a damn that the script kiddy gets banned AND hated, or even if the script works at all, once they've got his cash. Its CHEAP, CYNICAL but it's an internet standard activity - "I make-a-buck and everyone can go screw themselves."

 

Anyway - hacking a is LOT less in SA than it was in Mod. SA was built, designed, to deal with hacks at source, to a great extent. I think scripting will die out or at least end up a very minor irritation.

 

xx pilgrim

Edited April 2, 2014 by pilgrim