DayZ Standalone Discussion

[mick17 93]

I hope the Standalone is extremely difficult. Such as if you don't boil water you get sick/ dehydrated from relieving yourself so much due to the sickness. Or if you eat raw meat you could get a disease, or catch an infection from wounds that weren't kept clean or weren't properly bandaged. Those features aren't added so you enjoy them (although I will enjoy that they are there, not when I have them). They are there because they happen in real life. If you don't want to play the game because it's too realistic, then don't. From what I'm reading though, this game will be very unforgiving, difficult, frustrating, realistic, and extremely fun. Games now have gotten way to easy. Even the "hardest" difficulty you can beat with few problems. Just a little patience. It doesn't require you to think harder or more creative. All you do is keep trying till you 'get lucky'. I've pretty much lost interest with most mainstream games since I played DayZ, because it's the game I've been looking for for a long, long time. This game makes you be creative in how you go about situations and player interactions. It's makes you think. Now that every building is enterable and the loot system changes are going to drastically change the game, I don't think people realize how much it will change the game. You won't be able to just 'grab and go', you will actually have to expose yourself to look through multiple buildings to get that one can of beans. Not just run to the one you know will have something.

[OrLoK 16185]

Orlok, I don't really care if you like me or my "accusations" of fanboi-ism. There are plenty of negative things people say about me, and half the time you are giving them beans for it. Get off my nuts already, just because I don't agree with whatever the forum guru's say doesn't make me any less off a contributor to the subject or discussion. I will tell it like it is, and that is that.

Hello there

Like you, I also do not care a whit. Be constructive and that's fine. Criticisms need to be made. Just be pleasant and then others will be pleasant to you. Having an opposing view does not mean one needs to become rude.

Rgds

LoK

[Draxx (DayZ) 61]

It would be great if it is hard to survive - but I hope weapons won't be too hard to organize. (This is just my personal opinion, and I will sure not QQ if it is really hard - also with finding proper weaponry). I like the realism that you have in ArmA2 ACE. I love my Ghillie suit (nothing suits me better than a ghillie suit!) and a sniperrifle - and if I have to search for it for weeks, then be it so.

But diseases and whatever (rabies on animals, Diarrhea because of drinking uncleaned water, and so on) would be really immerse. I like it if it is hard. And you can be sure there will be a lot of whining in these forums. But I really do not care. If you want to play DayZ you should have some kind of frustration immunity. (You need it already at some points in the game nowadays / e.g. the tree killed me! The door broke my leg....). Maybe with a hard and extreme environment the community will not be so aggressive anymore. (KoS mentality gone? Please let me dream a little ^^)

Edited January 31, 2013 by Draxx

[boneboys 7988]

Tents !

I'm still kicking myself for not asking the question in the Mod Squad interview.

So, are tents in and if so, are they working at this time ?

If anybody has found something that I have missed,,post it here.

[WarlordBrumos 0]

I have a question, its not related to DayZ mod ,i mean it more to the standalone, but maybe it is. My question is: Is there any kind of base building elements? Placing Baricades and such? Its just something i like to do (In non rts related games).

[Dancing.Russian.Man 1631]

Use the search.

Short answer; Yes.

[Max Planck 7174]

Slightly longer answer; yes, but not at first release.

[dayzisthebest 4]

1.This game will SUCKS,because everything goes mainstream,bfcod kids are destroying game as I'm reading forums.They want remove 3rd person,they want Skills,LvL,challenges and similiar garbage.It's getting codish!!!Game is too hard for them so they complaining all forums.

2.If they remove 3rd person,it wont be dayz no more and I wont buy.

3.Developers will made this game only for $ not for enjoy and fun.

4.If DayZ comes to Xbox or PS3,it will be for game total death.

note: Dont hate me,I only draw attention to what may happen.

I WROTE TRUTH DONT DELETE ADMINS!!

Edited January 31, 2013 by dayzisthebest

[Predictable Platypus 3]

1.This game will SUCKS,because everything goes mainstream,bfcod kids are destroying game as I'm reading forums.They want remove 3rd person,they want Skills,LvL,challenges and similiar garbage.It's getting codish!!!Game is too hard for them so they complaining all forums.

2.If they remove 3rd person,it wont be dayz no more and I wont buy.

3.Developers will made this game only for $ not for enjoy and fun.

4.If DayZ comes to Xbox or PS3,it will be for game total death.

note: Dont hate me,I only draw attention to what may happen.

I WROTE TRUTH DONT DELETE ADMINS!!

Going past the obvious mistakes in your grammar, since when did they officially say that they were wanting to take out 3rd person and put in skills, levels and challenges? I'm actually curious where you got your information.

[SmashT 10907]

Going past the obvious mistakes in your grammar, since when did they officially say that they were wanting to take out 3rd person and put in skills, levels and challenges? I'm actually curious where you got your information.

They didn't. I assume he just read the suggestion forum and now thinks everything there is happening.

Edited January 31, 2013 by smasht_AU

[St. Jimmy 1631]

1.This game will SUCKS,because everything goes mainstream,bfcod kids are destroying game as I'm reading forums.They want remove 3rd person,they want Skills,LvL,challenges and similiar garbage.It's getting codish!!!Game is too hard for them so they complaining all forums.

2.If they remove 3rd person,it wont be dayz no more and I wont buy.

3.Developers will made this game only for $ not for enjoy and fun.

4.If DayZ comes to Xbox or PS3,it will be for game total death.

note: Dont hate me,I only draw attention to what may happen.

I WROTE TRUTH DONT DELETE ADMINS!!

Go back in CoD/BF where your complains are true.

[tilen 19]

You know what? I think some people in this thread gave Rocket so much beans that he now needs no more money to survive. Therefore to have him and his team finish the sodding game we ought to deprive Rocket from his beans.

[Fenrod 60]

Go back in CoD/BF where your complains are true.

He is kinda right. Releasing DayZ on consoles would mean that rocket only did that game for cash.

[whatup2003 67]

1.This game will SUCKS,because everything goes mainstream,bfcod kids are destroying game as I'm reading forums.They want remove 3rd person,they want Skills,LvL,challenges and similiar garbage.It's getting codish!!!Game is too hard for them so they complaining all forums.

2.If they remove 3rd person,it wont be dayz no more and I wont buy.

3.Developers will made this game only for $ not for enjoy and fun.

4.If DayZ comes to Xbox or PS3,it will be for game total death.

note: Dont hate me,I only draw attention to what may happen.

I WROTE TRUTH DONT DELETE ADMINS!!

Despite that none of the official blogs ever talked about removing 3rd person, how's removing 3rd person making the game NOT DayZ? Just because DayZ mod kept the mechanic that's in Arma2 originally doesn't mean it's a core mechanic of the game. Personally I like first person view because it gives better feel of immersion, and 3rd person view allows people to look around corners or look beyond covers.

Edited January 31, 2013 by realm13

[exogravis 13]

He is kinda right. Releasing DayZ on consoles would mean that rocket only did that game for cash.

No. if BI would ports over to console it would be good to have this game as an Indy title. I'm sure people would like a dumbed down version (controller wise) and play on the big screen. Course the whole point of producing and releasing games is for income so that better games and addons can be developed ....

but this is just to state of the obvious.

[exogravis 13]

Despite that none of the official blogs ever talked about removing 3rd person, how's removing 3rd person making the game NOT DayZ? Just because DayZ mod kept the mechanic that's in Arma2 originally doesn't mean it's a core mechanic of the game. Personally I like first person view because it gives better feel of immersion, and 3rd person view allows people to look around corners or look beyond covers.

I feel that 3rd person is what makes an MMO an MMO. Not just a bobbling wavy first person shooter.

3rd person adds more detail to say ... this is my toon, im controlling this toon and i want to see it from a birds eye view perspective.

Edited January 31, 2013 by exogravis

[OrLoK 16185]

1.This game will SUCKS,because everything goes mainstream,bfcod kids are destroying game as I'm reading forums.They want remove 3rd person,they want Skills,LvL,challenges and similiar garbage.It's getting codish!!!Game is too hard for them so they complaining all forums.

2.If they remove 3rd person,it wont be dayz no more and I wont buy.

3.Developers will made this game only for $ not for enjoy and fun.

4.If DayZ comes to Xbox or PS3,it will be for game total death.

note: Dont hate me,I only draw attention to what may happen.

I WROTE TRUTH DONT DELETE ADMINS!!

Quite an astounding post. Is this what you PM'ed me about and told me "not to hide the truth?"

Your "facts" are wrong and you are basing the effects on yourself not the community as a whole.

I personally would love to remove 3rd person. But it is staying AFAIK. In fact I have argued for it even though it's "not my thing".

Dev's made the game for cash and not fun? Even if this were 100pc true, what would be the problem? Almost everything that you enjoy is created for profit.

If a console version is created it most likely will be streamlined. It wont affect the PC version. Also, it most likely wouldn't happen till after the full SA release, if at all.

We don't hate you, although we may find your comments odd and a bit exciteable.

If the SA turns out to be "sucks" then I too will avoid it as many other folk would. I really would not worry unduly.

As to your fear of censoring, you'll be treated like any other member of the forum, there is no conspiracy here.

Rgds

LoK

[zaiks 4]

So 1 month after missed deadline (which was set by Rocket itself), he doesn't even know when the closed testing will start not to mention public release?

Amusing.

Edited January 31, 2013 by zaiks

[OrLoK 16185]

So 1 month after missed deadline (which was set by Rocket itself), he doesn't even know when the closed testing will start not to mention public release?

sigh.

[Zombie Jesus 723]

He is kinda right. Releasing DayZ on consoles would mean that rocket only did that game for cash.

That is so far down the road and depends on so many factors that it is barely worth mentioning, but even if that did happen after commercial success in the PC market I would not see it being a huge problem. Maybe they can suffer through a poor port like PC gamers constantly have to suffer through poorly ported console games. Also making money in an honest fashion from a good product is hardly worth demeaning, if he gets rich making awesome games it would be well deserved. If he follows the (redacted) zombie game mode and rushes a bad product out with false information then we should view it as a cash grab.

[zaiks 4]

sigh.

Care to elaborate? Something I said is not true?

You're a mod, you're being paid to lick Rocket's ass i get it, but you cant argue with facts - sorry.

Also in case you wonder, yes it's me - k3lt.

l2 ban properly.

Edited January 31, 2013 by zaiks

[plrsniper 87]

No. if BI would ports over to console it would be good to have this game as an Indy title. I'm sure people would like a dumbed down version (controller wise) and play on the big screen. Course the whole point of producing and releasing games is for income so that better games and addons can be developed ....

but this is just to state of the obvious.

You can play PC games on the "big screen" too. A TV is just a monitor with a different interface. It has a resolution (most common to date being 1920x1080, namely Full HD) and usually is connected through a HDMI connection to various devices, the PC has a lot of different connections. Most common one being DVI-D but in close second has HDMI or utilizes DVI-D -> HDMI adapters to connect with HDMI devices or vice versa.

And as with everything else when it comes to PC's, they have support for ALL controllers, be it XBOX of PS3 controllers and their predecessors. They all share the same interface these days, USB or Universal Serial Bus. As does many peripheral devices share that same interface (USB) with a few variations on the device end in terms of connector size and shape to allow slim devices such as mobile phones to stay... slim!

As far as income "so better games and addons can be developed" is concerned... The best games of all times where developed with small emphasis on income. One of the first all time great games ever released, Tetris, was made without a single thought of making a single dime. It's only after it became such a huge hit that people started talking about money.

Minecraft was made with that same philosophy, money was not the goal in the Alpha stage. It was merely a interesting thing for Marcus "notch" Persson to make after Infiniminer was scrapped.

It then grew from a past time development "fun deal" into a full time job so Notch started charging money ($10 per person) so he could focus on the game full time and still pay bills.

Little did he know it would grow to be one of the most successful indie titles of all time, making him a multimillionaire in the process.

The only reasons i can see to porting it to console is one of two:

1. Make money releasing to the biggest, stupidest market in gaming of all time.

2. Sharing your game with the less fortunate who only have access to a console. (Which in the case of DayZ, just isn't the case... We are talking about educational stuff here or free to play stuff really.)

In any case, more money does not equal a better game. If that was to be true then Call of Duty: Modern warfare 3 would be the best game of all time. It may be one of the best selling games but it sure as hell isn't a good game. It purely lives on the merits of the earlier CoD titles and it's status symbol as one of the most popular shooters around.

When you start pouring money into a project it suddenly turns direction from being a good game in it's mechanics, replayability and immersion into a quicktime stop motion game or otherwise too flashy with no real content at all.

DayZ started with just Zombies, looting, vehicles and PvP and where has it taken us so far??? NOWHERE! And that is a good thing, that is what makes DayZ such a good game!

There is no story, it's YOUR story.

There is no plotline.

There is no silly cutscenes to divide your immersion, no kill cams, no real reward besides your own personal, emotional gain.

You are free to go wherever you want and do whatever you want.

YOU are the game. That's why DayZ is so good.

Pouring money into that would just add unnecessary fluff to the game. All we need is more sandbox and a less bug ridden game with perhaps higher fidelity visuals with less taxing on our systems. That we can get from a standard development cycle where you pay ~$20-$30 for the game. The devs will get paid WELL for their effort. They don't need to go mainstream to make DayZ SA a good game or improve on it. Money will just ruin it!

[purepassion 383]

Care to elaborate? Something I said is not true?

You're a mod, you're being paid to lick Rocket's ass i get it, but you cant argue with facts - sorry.

The moderators are not payed by anyone and do this in their free time. If you demand objectiveness, exercise it for yourself first ;)

This first "deadline" originated from the situation as it presented itself last year. At that time, the initial plan was to get DayZ out as a sort of "Mod on steroids" to just kind of seperate it from Arma 2/3 and release it ASAP.

Back then, "The War Z" was nothing more but a product of promises and hot air and these promises were real competition.

But as soon as it was actually released, the steam vanished (click) and it was obvious to everyone that "The War Z" is no competition at all.

This and probably the still rising popularity have led to a drastic change of the development plans.

Now, BIS and the DayZ devteam are creating a whole new engine to perfectly suit DayZ with all its needs and make it live up to the full potential.

That's why the release has been delayed and is still going to be delayed ;)

[OrLoK 16185]

Hello there

K3lt! we were talking about you the other day.

Just to clarify, I don't get paid. I wish I did. You chaps and chapesses don't see half of what we have to deal with. But, on the whole, I enjoy the community and am glad to be able to be a help to it.

Lastly, as you know, my *sigh* was down to your incorrect factoids. We're not chasing that particular rabbit again.

Rgds

LoK

[whatup2003 67]

I feel that 3rd person is what makes an MMO an MMO. Not just a bobbling wavy first person shooter.

3rd person adds more detail to say ... this is my toon, im controlling this toon and i want to see it from a birds eye view perspective.

MMO means massive multiplayer online and has nothing to do with whether it's FPS or TPS or both.

FYI you can get rid of the head bobbing in game settings.

Seeing your character and getting unrealistic viewing angel during battle have to reach a middle ground. Many suggestions have been made in the suggestions section so I'm not gonna elaborate here.