Stable Branch - 0.55 Discussion

[Karakoz 141]

Document badmin issues in a bug report, just like everything else.

You are not supposed to report badmin in bug reports. You can send a mail to the company hosting the server, but:

- 1. You probably forgot which server you were on when you got kicked.

- 2. You would have to find who is hosting the server, find where to send the email, open your webmail, write a message with the server name and IP... Who wants to do that? I did that once, and I'm not willing to do that again.

They should just disable kicking on public servers or give a "report badmin" option when you get kicked just like H1Z1 did for cheaters.

Edited April 3, 2015 by Karakoz

[ColdAtrophy 1850]

Someone left a tree in my new living room in Kamensk.

[iraxt 2]

Someone left a tree in my new living room in Kamensk.

 

That sure is a nice tree though.

 

 

BUG: Zombies sometimes multiply when killed.

 

I was watching some random survivor getting chased by a zombie when he suddenly turned around and shot it. The zombie litteraly spilt up into 4 new ones.

Edited April 3, 2015 by Iraxt

[☣BioHaze☣ 7337]

 

Hmmm, playing on a fragnet server now.

 

Guess I'll give it go later.

Edited April 3, 2015 by BioHaze

[ColdAtrophy 1850]

That sure is a nice tree though.

 

It's a fire hazard though. Also, no one likes having squirrels shit in their cornflakes.

[iraxt 2]

It's a fire hazard though. Also, no one likes having squirrels shit in their cornflakes.

 

Make some squirrel stew then. Effective and tasty xD

[ColdAtrophy 1850]

Make some squirrel stew then. Effective and tasty xD

 

I like the way you think.

[RamJamSham 8]

I have stopped playing dayz, need to have 2 modes, Hard core farm simulator and loot every thursday like you guys have set up now and the old more pvp based game (persistence off *cough erm*). I dont wanna pick another apple, i dont wanna run into a military base and find pumpkin seads and i dont wanna go from deer stand to deer stand to find loot. What if i only have 2hrs to kill in a evening, wont find me playing lootless dayz thats for sure. at this point im looking at bejeweled saga to fill my time slot. 

[AnarchyBrownies 1383]

I have stopped playing dayz, need to have 2 modes, Hard core farm simulator and loot every thursday like you guys have set up now and the old more pvp based game (persistence off *cough erm*). I dont wanna pick another apple, i dont wanna run into a military base and find pumpkin seads and i dont wanna go from deer stand to deer stand to find loot. What if i only have 2hrs to kill in a evening, wont find me playing lootless dayz thats for sure. at this point im looking at bejeweled saga to fill my time slot. 

 

It sounds like you're the exact person that SHOULDN'T be playing DayZ. I think there's a good discussion to be had on the balance between brutal and easy but you're describing branching a version off that is NOTHING like DayZ is intended to be. You've perhaps been spoiled with the idea that DayZ is supposed to be a PvP game but it was never about that. You can go play Arma if you want and that will satisfy what you seem to be describing.

 

This update has completely changed the way I play DayZ and I had flashbacks from the mod days while I was playing. Amazing. I love the stealth aspect now. Zombies are brutal enough that I want to avoid them. If I wanted to run through a city and just lose them in buildings I probably could, but I would waste a ton of energy doing that. Considering how scarce food is, that probably would not be the best idea. I've also started learning more of the survival features of the game (living off the land) to make my life a little easier. But having to look around carefully all over cities for zombies has been the coolest part of this update. I don't just run around mindlessly anymore, I have to think about energy and zombie threats.

[Count_Blackula (DayZ) 39]

I have stopped playing dayz, need to have 2 modes, Hard core farm simulator and loot every thursday like you guys have set up now and the old more pvp based game (persistence off *cough erm*). I dont wanna pick another apple, i dont wanna run into a military base and find pumpkin seads and i dont wanna go from deer stand to deer stand to find loot. What if i only have 2hrs to kill in a evening, wont find me playing lootless dayz thats for sure. at this point im looking at bejeweled saga to fill my time slot. 

Please go away and never come back. 'old more pvp based game' lmao. 

[sfx 22]

That sure is a nice tree though.

 

 

BUG: Zombies sometimes multiply when killed.

 

I was watching some random survivor getting chased by a zombie when he suddenly turned around and shot it. The zombie litteraly spilt up into 4 new ones.

So they borrowed a little from Zombicide rules = proven to make a a game hardcore :)

[AnarchyBrownies 1383]

Please go away and never come back. 'old more pvp based game' lmao. 

 

It's amazing, isn't it? The game he wants to play literally exists in Arma.

[SkydogHex 8]

That feeling when you find two cans of food in one house

 

 

The day has finally come

LOL. That was my face when I found a bag of rice. :)

[Karakoz 141]

Zombies are so shit that before discovering that my tents had disappeared and uninstalling the game I just stopped engaging them in melee. I kept running away since once you start running there is nothing they can do against you. Is that how zombies are supposed to be? I hope not.

Edited April 3, 2015 by Karakoz

[RunForestRun 5]

Hey, hey created a new account as my old email is dead been playing since 2011? 12, I forget now sooo long but I re-registered just so I can say sterling work on the new patch, I was sceptical from the early reports but I'm loving it so far, the Zed AI is back to oldschool levels, I have to creep if I'm not armed (usually with a gun) or it's getting eaten time but the caveat being you can stealthy, stealthy again with the Zeds although lying prone two feet in front and it not spotting you is a bit meh! :P

 

First life, I run get armed and plenty of stock including a Smersh..love the new loot distribution! but find two helis but nothing useful get in a truck as there's loads around and much easier to deal with Zeds but run over one, truck flips I get out and die...yay!...

 

Second life, sneaky sneaky, don't find a gun for ages then finally find a mp5 (no clip ofc) and a Makarov and a clip, managed to get caught in a pub after sneaky, sneaky failed and thought I'd try to run to a nearby truck but 5 Zeds on me, goodnight Vienna!...

 

Third life after that death I spawn in near Berazino, run to cop shop find a nice new set of Cherno spec forces gear, two of the little sub's that I can't remember name of and two clips with it oh and 4 MP5 clips!!!....typical irony!..and then a high capacity vest in a hut, man again I love the new loot distribution and the Zed AI is much, much better now just add in the old music(I really loved that) and I'm back in my old DayZ loving days! :D

[The-MCV- 149]

Mixed feelings. Guess I will skip this one too. Props for the stealth system.

[barnabus 1708]

Alright,

 

The static police car wrecks up north are crazy with 30rnd mags and MP5's.  At BMP wrecks of two or more one has doodle, the other is a plethora of police gear (yes, I know what a plethora is amigos). Wrecked trucks and jeeps are not consistent with gear or types of gear spawning at them in a feast or famine kind of way.

 

Zeds behavior, I have noticed that on occasion I'll 1-2 kill hit a zed with a fire axe and immediately will be attacked by another zed from another direction. The new one always looks just like the one I just killed.  Doesn't happen every time and definitely not half the time but enough to have noticed it.  Zed desync and glitch behavior doesn't seem as radical today as it has the past few days.  Or is that just me?

 

Tried the stun baton again today, it worked great.  Got three zeds with it without a change of battery.  Now just need to find more batteries.

 

I am well off the coast and not having an issue finding food or water.

 

Looks like zed is going, mostly, for the head.  Motorcycle helmet is the best helmet to melee zeds in.  Kevlar and Skate helmet are ok, bled about half the time with those.  Have had two MC helmets ruined so far and did not even bleed.  Having said that I have had a few jackets and a few pair of pants and boots ruined too.  But bled a little every time that happened.

Edited April 3, 2015 by Barnabus

[S3V3N 1402]

What I rly don't like 'bout the patch is that consistency is so flawed/unreliable. I played on a server, set up a tent, awaited a restart and it was still there. Went looting across the map, but came back before the next restart and placed some loot inside tents and around to check for consistency. All of the loot in the tents stayed, the ammo dropped on the ground there stayed too, and I thought: fine, persistency is working. So I started dropping my gear, keeping only what I needed. 

 

Then the next restart made the server lockup somehow. It would not load past a warped image of the starting screen; one that shows no textures, only shading. And I could not connect, until the server restarted again (4 hours later) and of course, then the tents which I had thought reliable had all disappeared. So I lost a silenced rifle, a silenced gun, all my food and most gear/ammo/mags. And I have an empty rifle, fully scoped and silenced, but no bullets. The server shut down, right when I was about to take my gear out of the tent. 

 

This sucks, because if you force persistency on, it actually has to work to make any sense. Nobody wants to make a minus on each Dayz session, since you lose clothing and ammo by going looting. And if it all disappears in the end, you have less than you started out with, eventually. So when is persistence working and why isnt it already? Wasn't that like the one thing they worked on from day one, because the devs also understood that Dayz has no game without the core concept of persistency.  

Edited April 3, 2015 by S3V3N

[Mizzou60 81]

 I’ve just finished playing a 6 hour session on the new build and although the scarcity of loot has been a challenge I’ve managed to figure out how and where to collect equipment and food to survive. Loot is sporadic but I am finding items in civilian areas that before could only be found and military or helicopter locations (ie… ammo cans, hand grenades, AK74, high cap vest). HINT: don’t ignore outhouses anymore!

 

 The new Zbees are a real pain in the arse. I don’t mind the more challenging opponent but like some have pointed out, the melee action from our point of view needs some serious work. I got my arse handed to me from a lady Zed and before I could get a swing in, I had a helmet and a high cap vest ruined. She actually hit me several times without being in arms reach.  On another occasion a military Zed hit me multiple times without even swinging. The axe no longer has that glorious appeal it once held. Might as well be swinging a stick. On a positive note, I’ve found chainsaws are quite effective if you can find one and the stun baton is beautiful weapons against Zeds. Who would have thunk that two whacks with a baton kills them dead! I used to walk past the baton but now I’m collecting every battery I can find.

 

 I don’t know what’s going on with the persistence issue but this also needs fixing. I’ve found and set up three different tents (on three different servers) and lost them all and their contents when logging off.  I began experimenting on servers I frequently play on and drop backpacks, re-log and when I get back everything is gone. It really sucks to put in that kind of time just to lose your whole camp site.

 

 I still love the game but I hope this gets some attention soon. BTW anybody got a book of matches they’d like to trade?

[raynor009 204]

Holy shit balls look at all this loot that I found in a feeding shack!

 

 

And I wish there was more warnings before they decided to reset the persistentence again :/ . I hope I will find a new tent back soon. But until then I need to guard my VS3 till restart..

 

[bauertschi 254]

seems like bambi steaks will be a very popular dish this month.

 

I always thought canibalism is a stupid idea. Everyone is like "oooh, we gotta find ways for ppl to interact more, not kos all the time" and then kos is introduced as a viable source of food. And then a patch comes where ppl actually aren't finding food everywhere and ... you got it.

 

I think that has been explained.

You start with 1000 energy (Hungry), 1800 Hydration (almost Thirsty) and 1000 Stomach volume. Given that maximum Energy is 20000 (let's assume it's the energy that you can store throughout your body, such as the ATP and glucose in your muscle, your subcutaneous and visceral adipose tissue, glucose in the blood, etc) and max Stomach volume is 4000, it's reasonable to assume that the starting stats (the way they are now) simulate having been malnourished for days, if not weeks, prior to spawning, and having only drank a couple bottles of water recently — again, prior to spawning. Yes, it's a tremendous disadvantage to start with, but it's the way it is now.

 

In essence, you don't 'starve in half an hour', you haven't seen any food for a long time before you even spawned.

 

An Apple gives you 69kcal Energy and 172ml Hydration, so eating 20 of them gives you 1380kcal Energy and 3.44L Hydration, which is enough to give you the Energized and Hydrated (Stuffed too, borderline vomiting) statuses and, given you don't sprint (or, when the new stamina system is in, move as little as possible), should last you quite a while.

 

Are you sure you weren't sprinting everywhere? Sounds to me like you were:

30 min * 60 sec * –1.6 Energy&Hydration/sec = –2880 Energy&Hydration, which will land you in the Starving zone (1000+1380–2880 = –500).

If you were only jogging or walking, it would have been 30 * 60 * –0.5 = –900 Energy&Hydration, which is, assuming those 20 apples are the only thing you consumed, a no-indicator Energized status (1000+1380–900 = 1480).

 

EDIT: Can't do math at night. Corrected and re-verified.

 

Dude, my figures differ greatly from yours, but mine are like 1y+ old, can you post a link to where you get these new numbers? Would really be appreciated.

 

 

It sounds like you're the exact person that SHOULDN'T be playing DayZ. I think there's a good discussion to be had on the balance between brutal and easy but you're describing branching a version off that is NOTHING like DayZ is intended to be. You've perhaps been spoiled with the idea that DayZ is supposed to be a PvP game but it was never about that. You can go play Arma if you want and that will satisfy what you seem to be describing.

 

This update has completely changed the way I play DayZ and I had flashbacks from the mod days while I was playing. Amazing. I love the stealth aspect now. Zombies are brutal enough that I want to avoid them. If I wanted to run through a city and just lose them in buildings I probably could, but I would waste a ton of energy doing that. Considering how scarce food is, that probably would not be the best idea. I've also started learning more of the survival features of the game (living off the land) to make my life a little easier. But having to look around carefully all over cities for zombies has been the coolest part of this update. I don't just run around mindlessly anymore, I have to think about energy and zombie threats.

And

Please go away and never come back. 'old more pvp based game' lmao. 

AND

It's amazing, isn't it? The game he wants to play literally exists in Arma.

 

Please link me the source that tells us exactly what DayZ is intended to be, I have not been able to find that, yet. Are you two telling me that that you are now starving left and right? I have not since the first week after I bought that game, including this patch. And please don't tell me that the zeds now finally give you all the adrinalin you could ever want in this game. The last time zeds killed me was on experiimental maybe 8 months ago, including this patch, and I force melee fights to figure out how to best do them now. The only thing that keeps the tension up for me is the threat of other players. I cannot imagine it being different for others, I really can't. And I'm sure he knows Arma. Whenever I read responses like these, I get the urge to just kill every player I encounter in the game. Well for this patch I made that decision already, but really guys. It's amazing, isn't it?

[Veyda 195]

Dude, my figures differ greatly from yours, but mine are like 1y+ old, can you post a link to where you get these new numbers? Would really be appreciated.

 

Sure thing, dude. :)

 

This video:

 

and the Wiki article on apples (http://dayz.gamepedia.com/Apple).

Edited April 3, 2015 by Veyda

[raynor009 204]

I dropped my yellow Protector Case down and it disappeared. Watch out!

[twr 43]

soooo they just did a hot fix last night.... DON'T EAT THE MEAT!!! im sick and will soon die. *sad face*

[AnarchyBrownies 1383]

Please link me the source that tells us exactly what DayZ is intended to be, I have not been able to find that, yet. Are you two telling me that that you are now starving left and right? I have not since the first week after I bought that game, including this patch. And please don't tell me that the zeds now finally give you all the adrinalin you could ever want in this game. The last time zeds killed me was on experiimental maybe 8 months ago, including this patch, and I force melee fights to figure out how to best do them now. The only thing that keeps the tension up for me is the threat of other players. I cannot imagine it being different for others, I really can't. And I'm sure he knows Arma. Whenever I read responses like these, I get the urge to just kill every player I encounter in the game. Well for this patch I made that decision already, but really guys. It's amazing, isn't it?

 

I barely understand what you were trying to get at.

 

No one's saying the game should be impossible ("starving left and right"). No one said you had to die constantly. But I think what's been made clear is that the environment of DayZ is supposed to provide a multitude of challenges. That poster was requesting an environment that facilitates easy PVP. Now, where is the source that says that's what DayZ is supposed to be? That was never the intention.

 

My view the of what the game "should be" is much more in tune with the reality of the developers' intentions than I think yours is. Mine says that the game should be played in a variety of ways with a variety of threats and environmental factors to consider. These include zombies, other players, weather, health, food and drink scarcity. If you're siding with RamJam then you're saying the game should be a one way street to PVP. That's idiotic and, as I said, is a game that already exists. Check it out: http://store.steampowered.com/search/?snr=1_4_4__12&term=arma+3

 

If you were just looking to rant because you thought a couple players just didn't want PvP, I think you should read some more. I think it's far more likely you're just looking to blow off some steam because you aren't happy that zombies will be interfering with your snipe show. Don't worry, the game you want is safe. Today a guy tried to beat me to death with a sledgehammer just because I was in front of him. I don't think his goal will be too different when he finds a mosin and 4 bullets.

 

Convenient source right here:

 

 

It will never again become elektro deathmatch, prison island deathmatch, and gangs of guys in military gear looking for a fight.

 

EDIT : Since there is lot of traction on the post, let me explain it a bit, especialy for those that havent read replies below. It will still be possible, but a LOT harder and will have huge consequences, since the gear will be really rare and hard to get and you will not be in a cycle of gearing up and engaging in group pvp couples times in a playsession. And most of all it will not be the primary type of playstyle. The statement is about the playstyle that has been predominant and will not be.

EDIT: I tried to source as much as I could through quotes and links so you didn't have any trouble trying to understand my perspective and whether or not I just made it up randomly.

Edited April 3, 2015 by AnarchyBrownies