Experimental Branch: 0.48 Discussion

[barnabus 1708]

Check out the new towns (no, seriously). They had tons of loot when I was looking last night. I managed to find a good bit of loot in Severograd as well, despite being shot at several times :P

Where was that, prey tell?

[Guest]

So if you fuck your mic, the game will punish you for communicating with other players? As I say, harsh.

Probably a failed e attempt of spamprevention.

[Shrub Rocketeer ™ 879]

this happen to me 2 time is red text say 'server admin warn dont using group chat' i was get 5 warn then kick after i was join again server i was kick again after i was type in the direct WAT IS GROUP CHAT??? why is punish for type???? is racis against no mic persons

[jubeidok 495]

Other than my own, I havn't heard gun shots in ages. Do you guys think this is due to audio issues or are people just not shooting as much anymore? Is ammo harder to find? With all those pics that people post of their tricked out guns you would think you would hear them being fired at least once in a while. Is there some unwritten rule I don't know about where you can only fire a gun off in The Bear? Come to think of it, I haven't even heard shots there in a long time.

 

I'd like to hear more distant gun shots. The world is just too silent.

[freethink 984]

I heard gun shots last night in experimental BUT you can't rely on the game audio 100%. I was at the neaf crossing from the north and heard someone firing from the control tower at two guys around the sheds. My pal who was maybe 20m behind me didn't hear a thing though. Even when the shots were aimed at him. rip!

Edited August 13, 2014 by freethink

[muzzlehead 15]

Official servers have persistence (including tents) enabled. They are labeled with [persistence enabled]. The ones without this tag have no persistence. 

Are official 'stable' servers 3rd person only?  I can not see any 1st person 'stable' servers that are designated Persistence:on.

[Demonica 311]

Uhm... okay, so I ran around for about 3 hours on Regular... and did not encounter a single Zombie. Not a single one. Why? What is happening? Is it the Zombie Apocalypse? You know, like all the Zombies have died?

Seriously, I am confused. I played three different servers (switched once due to no loot and then found everything untouched on the next one), and not once a single zombie. And, for some reason, no buggy zombie sounds either...

[solodude23 649]

Are official 'stable' servers 3rd person only? I can not see any 1st person 'stable' servers that are designated Persistence:on.

Yeah, apparently so, though I'm not sure why. I am still playing on experimental servers for this very reason.

 

Uhm... okay, so I ran around for about 3 hours on Regular... and did not encounter a single Zombie. Not a single one. Why? What is happening? Is it the Zombie Apocalypse? You know, like all the Zombies have died?

Seriously, I am confused. I played three different servers (switched once due to no loot and then found everything untouched on the next one), and not once a single zombie. And, for some reason, no buggy zombie sounds either...

 

Which cities were you in? So far none of the northern cities have any zombies added to them except Svetlo and Cernaya Polana.

Edited August 14, 2014 by solodude23

[jubeidok 495]

Although there are some audio issues like this in the game, this was really just a stab at the work people put in to acquiring guns and ammo only to seemingly never use them. =P

[Demonica 311]

I was at the beautiful city of "Under Construction" which was hilarious, and headed to the coast from there. I'm just about by Berenzino now. Thanks for clearing that up, I haven't been able to keep track of the newest Patch notes as they are now, so I appreciated that tidbit of news :) :thumbsup:

[bonesnap 75]

Rarely. Also, since the servers are capped at 40 players it's rare to even find players to begin with. :/

 

Are the 100 player servers still being tested? And if so, are they ever going to make it to stable is the real question.

[jubeidok 495]

Rarely. Also, since the servers are capped at 40 players it's rare to even find players to begin with. :/

 

Are the 100 player servers still being tested? And if so, are they ever going to make it to stable is the real question.

 

Ya, sometimes I can go through a whole 2hr session without seeing a soul and sometimes I will run into 4 or 5 diffent people (that I usually watch from a distance). I don't mind that feeling though, you never know when you're going to cross paths with someone. I never tried playing on a full 100 player server so I don't know how much that changes the rate of encounters. Maybe it didn't increase player encounters at all when they tried so decided not to go any further or maybe they're are just waiting for the new engine drop before trying it again. 

[Exorade 214]

I feel like the whole sound system is now bugging more than it ever has. Majority of the time I've shot at stuff with my friends around and vice versa we don't hear each others guns. Versus, you know, in the mod when you'd hear gunshots kilometers away.

 

I hope that audio guy that they (devs) praised something like six months ago has done some work and they're going to implement it soon.

Edited August 14, 2014 by Exorade

[Big L 33]

i noticed somehting i had never seen before, don't know if its new though.

 

while strafing (only strafing, not pressing w) it makes no difference if you hit the sprint button or not.

this is not new to me. i hate it, but okay... <_<

 

i now realised that you can sprint while strafing when you aim down sight. wtf?

this doesn't make any sense at all to me!!! if i can't do it with open hands, why can i only sprint sideways when i ADS?? :huh:

is this new?

Edited August 14, 2014 by Big L

[d0pesen 17]

i now realised that you can sprint while strafing when you aim down sight. wtf?

 

you have reported it to the bugtracker?

[Big L 33]

you have reported it to the bugtracker?

 

no..not yet. if you ask me the bug is that you can't sprint while strafing without ads, but i wanted to hear some opininions before maybe adding it.

[aasand 92]

Yes, sometimes I can't even hear my buddy unload a AKM from 2 meters away.

[ebrim 998]

Meh, this is worrying, I like to think that listening for shots before I go into town is a good way to judge if I want to go in at all...

[ebrim 998]

no..not yet. if you ask me the bug is that you can't sprint while strafing without ads, but i wanted to hear some opininions before maybe adding it.

 

Sprinting while strafing doesn't even make sense, I'm not even sure what that would look like. That you can do it at all seems more like a bug.

[bauertschi 254]

Sprinting while strafing doesn't even make sense, I'm not even sure what that would look like. That you can do it at all seems more like a bug.

 

I heard "you cannot do this irl, you cannot do that irl" so many times now. I disagree so often, I really have to wonder just how the bodies of ppl in this forum work... .

 

Question: What is strafing for in shooters?

Answer: Moving sideways while aiming ahead.

 

irl test (I tested it (overweight) and I made my flatmate do it, too):

 

I don't even care to test it without a "rifle":

I took a 1.3 kg gastank for making soda (soda club for those who know it) as the buttstock in my right hand and a 3.5kg barbell in my weaker left hand for the rest of the rifle. Yep, laugh your asses off. Please also take into account that a rifle could be pressed into the shoulder, that makes three spots for stabilising it while I have the barbell without stabilisation from shoulder and right hand in my left hand. Holding a rifle steady would be easier.

 

Simply turn your upper body to a wall and aim directly at the wall, now run sideways, your feet not clapping together but stepping over each other. Do that as fast as you can while always aiming directly at the wall and avoid getting closer to the wall. Now how can you do that? Well, you have a spine. The spine is flexible. Or should be.

Repeat the same and "simulate" looking through sights by pulling your head down where sights would be and really keep your head down there.

 

How fast are you? With my head up (Dayz raised rifle, not aiming) I can do about 4 meters a second. With my head down (aiming) about 3 meters. Reacting to a target in the direction you aim and getting off a shot "good enough for close quarters" would not take long at all, you would of course slow down then. I love how we now have a new sprint with raised rifle, but the left right movement is way too much, irl you automatically work against that side movement, it would exhaust your arms. But as the aim centers pretty fast when you stop sprinting, I'm ok with it, it's just an animation.

 

Just try stuff irl before claiming it does not work. If you cannot achive about the same results as I did, you should worry about your health. But you probaby would get those results if you simply tried. And before you start about my setup not being realistic, we did stuff like that when I was in the army. No one had trouble with it either back then.

 

I tried sprinting with a raised AKM left and right in game, I cannot. But the walk button works. When aiming down the the sights the walk button does nothing but sprinting works. I consider the sprint button not working with raised rifle a bug. And sprinting when looking down the sights is too slow. You should be able to do it faster and, take your finger off the sprint button, aim and shoot. I guess no one wants to use a walk button when looking down the sights, you are already soooo slow.

 

Now why do I get all emotionally involved with this? We can sprint for ages, way too fast. No problem jumping over fences with a rifle on the back, another one in our hands, a full vest, a full jacket, full pants and a full mountain backpack. But as soon as gun handling is concerned, our character's limitations are sooo over the top and the reason is "realism/authenticity". And if you argue against it, ppl tell you to play CoD instead. It is quite simple, a character sooo limited in his physical abilities (not counting sprinting, jumping over fences, ...) would have been one of the first being eaten by zeds. I hate it, when character movement abilities are reduced beyond what is possible irl. It limits our options in engagements and is just frustrating to play when you have to watch just how inept your character is.

Edited August 14, 2014 by bautschi

[Dudester100 448]

So let me try to get this straight experimental was ported to stable right? if that's the case then whats the point of playing experimental if stable is the same? besides conserving your stable character  or is there some difference that im missing here?

[bauertschi 254]

My stable char is where my buddies will be later. But even ignoring this, is the loot spawning system the same? There are so many things that can be different server side that don't need client differences... .

[Evaris 61]

I had this happen a while back when my mic derped last. 

 

It's rather annoying.  I had just gotten a sporter with a 30 round mag, too.  But nope, lost my entire character and hard to start over because I was using text to chat with a guy when my microphone wasn't working.

[bauertschi 254]

oh, ffs, a monkey I closed out of a police station just killed me from outside when I was in the left front room of the upper floor. One hit kill. I was not even close to the front wall. That's depressing.

Edited August 14, 2014 by bautschi

[jubeidok 495]

I feel like the whole sound system is now bugging more than it ever has. Majority of the time I've shot at stuff with my friends around and vice versa we don't hear each others guns. Versus, you know, in the mod when you'd hear gunshots kilometers away.

 

I hope that audio guy that they (devs) praised something like six months ago has done some work and they're going to implement it soon.

 

Ya, I can't wait for a gargantuan audio drop. Once again, maybe something we won't hear a peep about until the new engine drops first.

 

On a side note, audio is often the last things to be finalized in a game, but we should at least be able to look forward to placeholder sounds....I hope.