BeefBacon 1185 Posted May 11, 2014 Improvised armoured car - yes. Everything else - please God no. I'm pro-helicopter, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
victusmortuus 1074 Posted May 11, 2014 Why re-create the mod? The SA gives the opportunity to do something else than what already has been done. Play the mod if you want to play the mod... There is doing something new and trying to strip the very essence of the game away, sure we can add lots of nice things like diseases but when you remove fan favourites like Choppers and Chopper crashes then it becomes a problem in my eyes. When I first played the mod the first time I heard a Chopper I actually shit myself and hid in a bush thinking "please dont see me, please don't see me", why remove this amazing feeling from new Dayz players?, If you're worried there'll be too many killing with Choppers just remember it'll be harder to control a Chopper, just as hard to accurately shoot an M240 from the side and more buildings for your 'victims' to run inside and hide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liquidsnake 275 Posted May 11, 2014 Good luck finding tank shells. Hell, good luck seeing another player from your tank without turning out and getting shot. If satchel charges, RPGs and .50 cals are added, be my guest and drive your little tank. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl 986 Posted May 11, 2014 There is doing something new and trying to strip the very essence of the game away, sure we can add lots of nice things like diseases but when you remove fan favourites like Choppers and Chopper crashes then it becomes a problem in my eyes. When I first played the mod the first time I heard a Chopper I actually shit myself and hid in a bush thinking "please dont see me, please don't see me", why remove this amazing feeling from new Dayz players?, If you're worried there'll be too many killing with Choppers just remember it'll be harder to control a Chopper, just as hard to accurately shoot an M240 from the side and more buildings for your 'victims' to run inside and hide. All fair enough, I guess it all comes down to personal preference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oanj 28 Posted May 11, 2014 This isn't an fps.. what do you want next a tactical nuke after 25 kills? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karmaterror 982 Posted May 11, 2014 Im for helis but not tanks, no matter how rare or hard to maintain. The thing with a tank is you get pretty much all the bonuses of a heli (with a speed trade off for armour) but the tank itself cant kill you.....1 mistake and a heli can. With the ToH engine elements it could be real hard just to fly one. Now tanks have no "skill" involved. Anyone can drive one round demolishing forests and running down survivors. No matter how rare those shells are groups/clans will stockpile them somewhere, then eventually go and lay siege to a major city. All the while encased in an armoured shell that only other super rare items can kill. Helis are different animals, you are exposed in one, there is always the risk of a crash and there armourment (thinking UH-1H) isn't insanely OP....its was just a mod0 on a door mount. Also helis can be dropped by small arms fire. Tanks on the other hand provide epic cover, have silly OP weapons and couldn't be dropped by a lone survivor with nothing but small arms :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Whyherro123 2283 Posted May 11, 2014 (edited) My word.This is supposedly a "hardcore survival game". Now, I doubt the veracity of that moniker sometimes, but regardless, what benefit would there be to adding a motherfucking TANK to survival? Where are you going to get the diesel, where are you going to get the oil, do you know how to maintain such a vehicle? Not even touching weapons!I hate this statement with a burning passion, but....."ARMA and all the other fps'es are that-a-way"I don't even want CARS in game (for logistical reasons) why would there be a working tank? I don't entirely agree with helicopters either, but at least I can put a bullet in the main rotor assembly and ground the thing! Jesus Christ. Edited May 11, 2014 by Whyherro123 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captainvette2112 84 Posted May 11, 2014 I say put them in.... there is a reason EPOCH is the most popular most played MOD. Tanks/Heli's/Military loot will be in game sooner or later anyway when they start allowing private mod servers. Its going to be funny listening to the vocal minority cry about it just like they cried about the empty 1pp only servers..... "all the servers with vehicles and mil spec loot are full, no one ever plays on our hardcore nothing to do servers... they need to make everyone play ours servers" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathlove 2286 Posted May 11, 2014 If they put in a tank i want ACTUAL tread based tanks not those dumb ones with the wheels lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrostDMG 398 Posted May 11, 2014 I say put them in.... there is a reason EPOCH is the most popular most played MOD. Tanks/Heli's/Military loot will be in game sooner or later anyway when they start allowing private mod servers. Its going to be funny listening to the vocal minority cry about it just like they cried about the empty 1pp only servers..... "all the servers with vehicles and mil spec loot are full, no one ever plays on our hardcore nothing to do servers... they need to make everyone play ours servers" Please do go back to Battlefield or maybe try something more challenging for once i.e Arma 3. Military vehicles do not belong in a survival game. Unless the entire map is literally an abandoned military complex with unlocked vehicles everywhere, they have no place in the game. People played on those servers because people like you look for the easy experience so obviously you want to flock to the servers where you're instantly rewarded with DMR + gear and there's about 50,000 vehicles everywhere. People do play on the hardcore servers, just because you might be too ADHD to handle the travelling/quiet periods doesn't mean you should generalize the entire community like that. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrostDMG 398 Posted May 11, 2014 If they put in a tank i want ACTUAL tread based tanks not those dumb ones with the wheels lol. You know this thread is a troll? Why do you guys take it seriously jesus christ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathlove 2286 Posted May 11, 2014 (edited) You know this thread is a troll? Why do you guys take it seriously jesus christ.Because tanks Im dead serious make an extremely rare functional tank with mortor rounds. Edited May 11, 2014 by Deathlove Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
victusmortuus 1074 Posted May 11, 2014 Please do go back to Battlefield or maybe try something more challenging for once i.e Arma 3. Military vehicles do not belong in a survival game. Unless the entire map is literally an abandoned military complex with unlocked vehicles everywhere, they have no place in the game. People played on those servers because people like you look for the easy experience so obviously you want to flock to the servers where you're instantly rewarded with DMR + gear and there's about 50,000 vehicles everywhere. People do play on the hardcore servers, just because you might be too ADHD to handle the travelling/quiet periods doesn't mean you should generalize the entire community like that. Just think and realise you're really mad because he stated Epoch is good fun. If you want full survival, go and live in the woods. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrostDMG 398 Posted May 11, 2014 (edited) Just think and realise you're really mad because he stated Epoch is good fun. If you want full survival, go and live in the woods. Epoch is popular because its noob friendly and tries to be a MMORPG and not a DayZ. It's not anywhere near as hard as normal DayZ. Edited May 11, 2014 by FrostDMG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
victusmortuus 1074 Posted May 11, 2014 (edited) Epoch is popular because its noob friendly and tries to be a MMORPG and not a DayZ. It's not anywhere near as hard as normal DayZ. Dayz was never hard. The janky controls and broken zombies made it difficult. Once you overcome that it become easy. Epoch still has everything Dayz Vanilla has just more features to overcome, wouldn't that make it more difficult? Edited May 11, 2014 by Victus Mortuus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katana67 2907 Posted May 11, 2014 Tanks are a different story from helicopters. At least in the mod, helicopters could be taken out by small arms fire. Whereas that was not really the case with tanks. That and helicopters trade resistance for visibility. To approach this, I think tanks should be unarmed. Not to mention suitably cumbersome and fuel inefficient. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathlove 2286 Posted May 11, 2014 Tanks are a different story from helicopters. At least in the mod, helicopters could be taken out by small arms fire. Whereas that was not really the case with tanks. That and helicopters trade resistance for visibility. To approach this, I think tanks should be unarmed. Not to mention suitably cumbersome and fuel inefficient.Something small like this i could see if you watch enough of the silent video just turn off sound cause its all just static. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boneboys 7988 Posted May 11, 2014 This is undergoing in-house testing... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathlove 2286 Posted May 11, 2014 Yeah the Origins one would work fine to. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Irish. 4886 Posted May 11, 2014 All I have to say is: if you add in tanks, you have to add in satchel charges, IED, and RPG/LAW options for balance. Once you have done that, the game changes significantly. All it takes is dying one time to some asshat with a rocket launcher while you're pinned down in a building, to effectively lose your shit on the forums... and imagine how many people will do just that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeppa 562 Posted May 11, 2014 Not really, I think people fail to see all variables... Equipment weight, ammo rarity etc.., i could give rats ass if I came across some rpg with rocket or two.. Would rather take a knife and avoid that tank. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathlove 2286 Posted May 11, 2014 Not really, I think people fail to see all variables... Equipment weight, ammo rarity etc.., i could give rats ass if I came across some rpg with rocket or two.. Would rather take a knife and avoid that tank.Yeah if they add weight values in you would be screwed in a fire fight trying to run with an RPG and rockets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Irish. 4886 Posted May 11, 2014 (edited) Persistent containers. You save a backpack/tent/container with the RPG near the high pvp zone.. once you see a target that requires the use of a rocket propelled grenade you go and swap packs.. take out the target, and go back to swap again. Or you store it in your vehicle.. park once you are engaged. Take out RPG.. win. There is always a way around the things DayZ does to curtail certain playstyles. Its been that way since day 1. Edited May 11, 2014 by lrish Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeppa 562 Posted May 11, 2014 (edited) Ofc, and all that is fine if want to do that.. There is always change someone have emptied that container/car, you cant go back for it yad yada... Its alot of if's and that how it should be.Has nothing to do with playstyles... Edited May 11, 2014 by Zeppa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites