What do you think full modding support will do to DayZ

[enforcer1975 1111]

Mods will ruin the game...or does anyone think it will not be the same as in the mod?

[helcol 174]

Hello there

 

But are we not being overly elitist as some of the Arma community were?

 

Without modding NONE of you would be here today.

 

Perhaps someone will come up with an even better idea based on the mod?

 

Rgds

 

LoK

Modding is good and yes Dayz would not be a SA without the mod. But the sad news is that people are already doing exploits in the SA that were abused by the admins in the mod. 

 

All I know is that if people are given the easy way out, a large majority would do so and be OK with it.

 

The problem is not for the most part the modders, it is the admins who take the mods and turn them into terrible things that dampen down and destroy the experience for everyone else.

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

People don't want a better game, people want an easier game.

[napalmdog 71]

I think it's a bad idea.

 

Something like DayZ is a multiplayer game with a set idea for it, and when you let people make their little subcultures, it gets ruined. 

I've always been confused by this line of thinking. How do you mean ruined? Because I am here to tell and reassure you that vanilla DayZ won't disappear because of a mod. And perhaps most importantly, you do not have to play the mods.

 

If anything, mods will add years of life to DayZ. I played Battlefield 1942 and several mods for it, switching back and forth between the 'vanilla' and forgotten hope, highway 74, battle group, etc., along with several thousands of people. That game is 10 years old and people are still playing and modifying it.

[Pandema 352]

Best case scenario, we get some cool new maps to play on.

 

Worst case scenario, we get what happened to the mod.

[Etherious 907]

Best case scenario, we get some cool new maps to play on.

 

Worst case scenario, we get what happened to the mod.

^This :) although I did like the use of new foods and drinks. :3

[napalmdog 71]

Best case scenario, we get some cool new maps to play on.

 

Worst case scenario, we get what happened to the mod.

Pray tell, what happened? Can you be specific?

[scriptfactory 620]

People don't want a better game, people want an easier game.

 

Isn't "better" quite the subjective phrase? Many people want different things.

[Irish. 4886]

Rocket said in the roadmap that they're going to let the community "run with it" when it came to modding the game, citing the MOD as an example of what has been done. If I remember correctly this led to very few people playing the original MOD for things like Epoch, Origins, etc. 

 

So now it's pretty much been confirmed, what do you think about this?

The mod, contrary to what people think, was not killed nor did it die when further modding hit. In fact it breathed life into it. 

 

Modding is going to open this game up beyond what anyone can imagine. It will bring new maps, new ideas, new content. And eventually, someone will get it just right. And then many will get it right. Options are never a bad thing. I cannot wait, as it will probably mean the return of my beloved site:

 

Edited April 2, 2014 by lrish

[muddyraccoon 176]

*gazes into crystal ball*

I forsee cars, lots and lots, vehicles, everywhere.  Easy to get.  With storage, and weapons!  I forsee weapons and ammo littering the streets.  Most will complain openly, but still play the easy mode.  This will be done with "improvements in mind, but will tear the heart out of the game, and let it sit twitching in the gutter as Helicopters are added, with more and more military loot/guns/vehicles/buildings!  I see maps!  Maps with coordinates automatically displayed, GPS maps, mini maps in an overlay!  I see damage meters and health meters, and very few graphic or textural mods.

 

The future of DayZ looks dark indeed.

[Siberian (DayZ) 527]

looking forward to it..

 

modding is what keeps DayZ fresh over time and helps to seperate the community into its class's

 

people who like to play a certain way can easily find servers that suit them.. instead of everyone having to suffer throu the cesspool we have currently.

[AzrailCross 48]

Personally I see modding tools as a great idea, and the worst idea imaginable like others sort of imply.

 

Having modding tools means GREAT mods, amazing things that the dev's might not think to do - think are to much of a time waster - sometimes even think are impossible to implement as well as mods that simply don't adhere to the idea of DayZ that might be awesome. Basically take a peek at Morrowind/Oblivion/Skyrim and you can easily grasp how stunning mods *can* be.

 

But in a multiplayer game, modding tools helps separate the community into which mod they like best, and I want to say severely hinders security - but that'd be based on sheer assumption so .. I'll just lean on the safe side of 'can help cause' hacks to be common place due to exposing how the game runs and giving more insight to hackers on how to bypass certain elements of the game. Just my thoughts, and could be wrong it just seems reasonable. Hackers are going to find means to get through anyway, but modding tools opens up access to the core of the game files for deeper examination and take away a layer of defense in doing so.

Edited April 2, 2014 by AzrailCross

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

The mod, contrary to what people think, was not killed nor did it die when further modding hit. In fact it breathed life into it. 

 

Modding is going to open this game up beyond what anyone can imagine. It will bring new maps, new ideas, new content. And eventually, someone will get it just right. And then many will get it right. Options are never a bad thing. I cannot wait, as it will probably mean the return of my beloved site:

 

I joined BMRF back in the day.  I enjoyed their server and was sad when they decided not to do an SA one :(

[napalmdog 71]

*gazes into crystal ball*

I forsee cars, lots and lots, vehicles, everywhere.  Easy to get.  With storage, and weapons!  I forsee weapons and ammo littering the streets.  Most will complain openly, but still play the easy mode.  This will be done with "improvements in mind, but will tear the heart out of the game, and let it sit twitching in the gutter as Helicopters are added, with more and more military loot/guns/vehicles/buildings!  I see maps!  Maps with coordinates automatically displayed, GPS maps, mini maps in an overlay!  I see damage meters and health meters, and very few graphic or textural mods.

 

The future of DayZ looks dark indeed.

Did you know that you can go into the first mod and filter out original, unmodified public servers?

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

If this is the direction that the SA is going then from what I read of it, not only is Dean giving up, Bohemia is as well.  Sad really :(

[So Sexy 259]

It will create ridiculous amounts of servers, where you spawn with the best gear...But at least PVP kids will be happy.

[liquidsnake 275]

It will both ruin and improve the SA, just like it did the mod. There were great mods like Breaking Point and Origins, which added a great deal to the game. On the other hand, there will be several mods that'll up the vehicle/weapon spawns and basically turn DayZ easy mode on, ruining the entire game. The problem is that a lot of players will desert vanilla for ridiculous mods like that. Hopefully, the devs will see to it that only good mods will become popular by testing the mods themselves and only make them playable if they approve of them.

[Irish. 4886]

I joined BMRF back in the day.  I enjoyed their server and was sad when they decided not to do an SA one :(

I was a mod there for a long time up until it closed down. Their audience left to go play SA. That and the lack of private servers allowed initially w/SA, and private hives, meant that they had no more reason to stay up. So they closed with the premise that if they can return when modding or private hives/servers hits SA, they will do it. So fingers crossed.. :)

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

I was a mod there for a long time up until it closed down. Their audience left to go play SA. That and the lack of private servers allowed initially w/SA, and private hives, meant that they had no more reason to stay up. So they closed with the premise that if they can return when modding or private hives/servers hits SA, they will do it. So fingers crossed.. :)

Good to hear.  Their server was one of the very few I actually enjoyed playing on due to the fact it stayed close to the roots of what DayZ was about.

[muddyraccoon 176]

Did you know that you can go into the first mod and filter out original, unmodified public servers?

Yes I did.  And so did 12 other people that used the filters too.  It was boring.  So I had to play the others, which were all fun, just lacking a population willing to work for gear.  Epoch.  Epoch still has some good servers out there.  But i prefer SA.  And I wouldnt mind mods if they added depths of realism to the game.  But I am guessing that more realism will be removed for vehicles, and others.  I like the community, and don't want to see a rift come between it.  It won't be a single rift, either.  It will be many many rifts.

 

But then again, i could be the crazy guy with THE END IS NIGH! written on a carboard sign standing on street corners shouting to nobody.

Edited April 2, 2014 by MuddyRaccoon

[leefriendfield 438]

I enjoyed my experience in mods like epoch and vanilla because it provided some interesting and cool eexperiencs/moments. The problem is finding a clean server that isn't spawn with helis, tanks, guns and more is incredibly hard. It is near impossible to do so for the community makes a fantastic mod like epoch that stays pure to the dayz survival goal and then server aadmins destroy that mod with their integration of "Easy Mode" scripts. Their needs to be some kind of big daddy control over the mods in SA.

[Jex 1104]

People don't want a better game, people want an easier game.

 

This is true. They don't want to play the game as a survival game - against the environment, zombies and players. I suspect all difficult aspects to be removed and zombies made pathetic - just look at the outcry we had from the zed update - well they're going to get worse. Modders will dumb them down so the real pvp aspect can be played - that's what dayz is though right? Fast cars, no effort and killing fresh spawns?

[Jex 1104]

The mod, contrary to what people think, was not killed nor did it die when further modding hit. In fact it breathed life into it. 

 

Modding is going to open this game up beyond what anyone can imagine. It will bring new maps, new ideas, new content. And eventually, someone will get it just right. And then many will get it right. Options are never a bad thing. I cannot wait, as it will probably mean the return of my beloved site:

 

 

I played there! :)

 

so sad it went :(

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

This is true. They don't want to play the game as a survival game - against the environment, zombies and players. I suspect all difficult aspects to be removed and zombies made pathetic - just look at the outcry we had from the zed update - well they're going to get worse. Modders will dumb them down so the real pvp aspect can be played - that's what dayz is though right? Fast cars, no effort and killing fresh spawns?

Exactly.  Just go look at the server list for the mod.  The real servers are pretty much empty and the pvp servers are jam packed.  I get people want to pvp but what I don't get is that there is a plethora of games out there that are strictly pvp without the worry of pve getting in the way.  Hell, I don't understand why they just aren't playing ARMA........

[napalmdog 71]

Yes I did.  And so did 12 other people that used the filters too.  It was boring.  So I had to play the others, which were all fun, just lacking a population willing to work for gear.  Epoch.  Epoch still has some good servers out there.  But i prefer SA.  And I wouldnt mind mods if they added depths of realism to the game.  But I am guessing that more realism will be removed for vehicles, and others.  I like the community, and don't want to see a rift come between it.  It won't be a single rift, either.  It will be many many rifts.

 

But then again, i could be the crazy guy with THE END IS NIGH! written on a carboard sign standing on street corners shouting to nobody.

Then this thread, or at least 90% of the comments, should make you take heart! Consider how they all Love SA. If there is any truth to what they are spouting, then you will not have trouble finding people to play with or servers to play on.

 

Heck, start your own server and run it complete vanilla. If people really do want this as the thread suggests then they will come....