rossums 2190 Posted December 18, 2013 The mods specifically write "please do not post screenshots of hacks" and now every other post is "no one is hacking".What the hell are we suppose to do? We can't talk about the problem because we can't establish that it IS a problem.Were you dropped on your head as a child?Don't post screenshots of hacks (DURR)No one is hacking (There are SCRIPTS being used, which won't be a problem at all)You aren't talking about any problems you are whining like a little baby.If you had any common sense you'd know it was a stupid idea showing people 'Oh, you can do this to cheat' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazy2guns 38 Posted December 18, 2013 If you had any common sense you'd know it was a stupid idea showing people 'Oh, you can do this to cheat' That didn't happen, though. Also, I showed screenshots of hacking and scripting, both. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rocket 16567 Posted December 18, 2013 listen its well known the hacks work for SA, and the fact that the evidence of the hack, which was just a screen shot, was deleted, speaks volumes that hacks are real, and they are trying to make it seem like there is no hacking, Let me clear this up for you: There is hacking. There will always be hacking in every game. Nobody is trying to "hide" that. It's a fact. So what should be done!?!? The dev team should be vigilant and identify the vulnerabilities and close them. We change the architecture so it was no longer reliant on the client but that does not mean we found all the doors and closed them. THe process is to go through, identify those holes and close them. In ArmA, these holes were actually used as part of the game so they could not be closed. In DayZ, we do not use these by virtue of the architecture... but it only takes ONE hole to be left to be exploited. We have already moved hundreds of previous ways things could be exploited at the script and engine level, but that does not mean we got everything and that is the purpose of alpha, and the reason we will be patching very regularly. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OrLoK 16182 Posted December 18, 2013 The mods specifically write "please do not post screenshots of hacks" and now every other post is "no one is hacking".What the hell are we suppose to do? We can't talk about the problem because we can't establish that it IS a problem.You HAVE been informed. If you have Proof simply pass it along to a mod. Rgds LoK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zfleming12 395 Posted December 18, 2013 Let me clear this up for you: There is hacking. There will always be hacking in every game. Nobody is trying to "hide" that. It's a fact. So what should be done!?!? The dev team should be vigilant and identify the vulnerabilities and close them. We change the architecture so it was no longer reliant on the client but that does not mean we found all the doors and closed them. THe process is to go through, identify those holes and close them. In ArmA, these holes were actually used as part of the game so they could not be closed. In DayZ, we do not use these by virtue of the architecture... but it only takes ONE hole to be left to be exploited. We have already moved hundreds of previous ways things could be exploited at the script and engine level, but that does not mean we got everything and that is the purpose of alpha, and the reason we will be patching very regularly.Works for me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrlaxx 12 Posted December 18, 2013 I think Rocket summed up all we need to know and this topic should be closed. Raising more awareness about hacks floating around will cause little kids to grab them (and most likely getting their accounts compromised in one way or another). Just my opinion. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weedz 1105 Posted December 18, 2013 (edited) My favorite fake hack picture going around (think this is okay as it is clearly not from the standalone) >insert picture that clearly shows multple textures from the mod not the standalone<<snips> Orlok says:even mod scripts fall under this and those sites are trying to implement mod stuff. <snip>orlok says: its actually does contain stuff from what many hack sites are trying to bring over. sorry! unintentional but true. Edited December 18, 2013 by orlok 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OrLoK 16182 Posted December 18, 2013 Hello there As folk *will* rant, id rather keep this established thread open and merge any new threads here. It keeps it all in one place. Discussing things is fine. Links and certain content is not. We are lax here but this is not a democracy. We tolerate far more than many other sites but there are limits. If one dislikes that there are others forums to frequent. Rgds LoK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weedz 1105 Posted December 18, 2013 (edited) Also attention losers: Do not download anything from Youtube that is pretending to be a standalone cheat. You will get your account stolen and / or bank account robbed. Edited December 18, 2013 by Weedz 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlcApwn (DayZ) 28 Posted December 18, 2013 We change the architecture so it was no longer reliant on the client but that does not mean we found all the doors and closed them. this is exactly the problem, i have to say. you promised to build a new server-client model with the server in absolute control of everything - but you didnt, as you are obviously using the old and faildesigned serversoftware again.im am sorry, but if the clients can teleport you can not insist that you rewrote the client/server communication, since the clients are still in charge of what is happening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hazious 0 Posted December 18, 2013 (edited) <snip>You can already buy hacks the game is fucked... Edited December 18, 2013 by orlok Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weedz 1105 Posted December 18, 2013 (edited) -Link removed- You can already buy hacks the game is fucked... That is just an ESP which will be fixed soon as Rocket already said. It isn't even an aimbot or anything. Also the screenshots show nothing more than a menu ( which I could make in MS paint in 2 mins) doesn't even show the ESP showing any items ... Edited December 18, 2013 by Weedz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazy2guns 38 Posted December 18, 2013 I'm going have to agree with AlcApwn, here. Rocket stated that ArmA script injection "just wouldn't be possible" because they were "disabling that functionality from the client". Yet, in DayZ SA, you can still run all of the same ArmA scripts on the client it carries through the server. There was no C/C++ rewriting and nothing (major?) changed in the engine. They tried to mime what other modders did with ArmA 2 to prevent client scripts... and then failed to even do that much. There is no client-server architecture and the game is not written like a MMO. Heck, the server still sends the whole map information to your client when you first log in, but hey, I can't show you proof of that because that's against the rules. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hazious 0 Posted December 18, 2013 (edited) That is just an ESP which will be fixed soon as Rocket already said. It isn't even an aimbot or anything. Also the screenshots show nothing more than a menu ( which I could make in MS paint in 2 mins) doesn't even show the ESP showing any items ... I think this website has sold many working hacks and currently this hack is offered right now if you think it's ms paint pay the $13 and see for your self... <snip>Orlok says: No details please,even that is googleable. Any info or proof please PM a mod. Edited December 18, 2013 by orlok Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazy2guns 38 Posted December 18, 2013 That is just an ESP which will be fixed soon as Rocket already said. It isn't even an aimbot or anything. Also the screenshots show nothing more than a menu ( which I could make in MS paint in 2 mins) doesn't even show the ESP showing any items ... The next stage of your denial will be to say that videos are fake and just edited in adobe after effects. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rocket 16567 Posted December 18, 2013 this is exactly the problem, i have to say. you promised to build a new server-client model with the server in absolute control of everything - but you didnt, as you are obviously using the old and faildesigned serversoftware again.im am sorry, but if the clients can teleport you can not insist that you rewrote the client/server communication, since the clients are still in charge of what is happening. The promise we made is clearly articulated on the steam website, and is not whatever you feel like. I can provide you a link to the website, can you please provide me a link to where I declared:That hacking would disappear completely, everThat everything would work properly on day 1, or 2, or 3 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ispecter 55 Posted December 18, 2013 Here's the bottom line, the DayZ team needs to implement player moderators that can ban these ass hats for hacking. During the mod I only played on private servers because hacking was such an issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rocket 16567 Posted December 18, 2013 As an example, this is what happens on server when I try to create something on the client using my own hack: 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weedz 1105 Posted December 18, 2013 (edited) The next stage of your denial will be to say that videos are fake and just edited in adobe after effects.There are no videos ... I found some more proof that people are hacking though I've personally ran into about 57 1/2 people using this already. Edited December 18, 2013 by Weedz 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sqweebs 2 Posted December 18, 2013 (edited) No it won't because this engine is heavily modified to remove the easy scripting access that the mod had. Once VAC is online anyone even trying to script/hack will be banned and have their key banned from all servers. So does anyone remember the random kicks related to create vehicle restriction #1? If that happens to anyone who isn't hacking it would kinda suck. Also i forget the one about crashing a helicopter that got me kicked and banned on my Clan's own server once we activated an anti-cheat. REALLY hope that doesn't happen when they activate the fly-swatter anti-cheat... P.S. Can't wait for the anti-cheat to be turned on though! :) Edited December 18, 2013 by Sqweebs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sobieski12 835 Posted December 18, 2013 (edited) To be quite honest, a large number of people saw this event coming.* Granted I thought it would at-least take a week for the hacks but it seems they have been underestimated. The most important things about the current client / servers system is that hackers unable to "Nuke" the server.* Forcibly teleporting players , flying cows, jets, tanks etcetc. Edited December 18, 2013 by Sobieski12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hazious 0 Posted December 18, 2013 As an example, this is what happens on server when I try to create something on the client using my own hack: you can't just player addWeapon "m16" anymore you have to send info to the server saying you picked it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wo3dy 111 Posted December 18, 2013 There are no videos ... I found some more proof that people are hacking though I've personally ran into about 57 1/2 people using this already. i almost fell for it *Cough* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weedz 1105 Posted December 18, 2013 Aww crap I just realized I should have used a picture from the mod :( 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouisK 85 Posted December 18, 2013 Wait, the AK47 is already In game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites