November Round-up

[desryachri 95]

Ok I have a question but first..

I am a big fan of Dayz, I quit playing the mode last christmas because of the kos mentality and hacking that ruined he game for me anyways.. I have been following the development closely and yep I am one of those fans super excited a bout SA.

I do have a negative point though and it has nothing to do with the game it's self.. It's about how information is reaching the fan base!

so I did my routine this morning of checking twitter the dayzgame re site and facebook where you would expect to see any relevant information posted.

But that was not he case.. I find on youtube a third party filmed live twitch recording? Nothing about this on the daily dayz twitter on rockets twitter on Facebook or on the dayzgame website?

It would of taken 2 seconds for dean to put up a quick tweet, and befor people say oh chris or some other youtuber tweeted I'm sorry I don't follow them never have its annoys me that there is a very select few who are called "true" fans who get private notifications who then I turn use this to popularizze them selves within the comunity.

Shame on you dean for the method you choose to deliver your much loved product to the comunity there is a reason I follow you on twitter.. For information which is relevant to the game come on last minute or not a little communication in that specific department would be nice.

Don't get me wrong I love the game I'm super excited have never had anything negative to say about the development nothing negative but I had to say something about this I even registered a new account here to voice my opinion on this subject.

Befor people start the whole oh poor you you missed it your ranting over nothing then I feel sorry for those who think like this it is simply about a tiny insignificant tweet or post on the dayzgame website about something extremely segnificant .

Rant over, I remain excited and after watching on youtube I am even more excited! Great progress on the game keep it up!

[Private Evans 1303]

Ok I have a question but first..

I am a big fan of Dayz, I quit playing the mode last christmas because of the kos mentality and hacking that ruined he game for me anyways.. I have been following the development closely and yep I am one of those fans super excited a bout SA.

I do have a negative point though and it has nothing to do with the game it's self.. It's about how information is reaching the fan base!

so I did my routine this morning of checking twitter the dayzgame re site and facebook where you would expect to see any relevant information posted.

But that was not he case.. I find on youtube a third party filmed live twitch recording? Nothing about this on the daily dayz twitter on rockets twitter on Facebook or on the dayzgame website?

It would of taken 2 seconds for dean to put up a quick tweet, and befor people say oh chris or some other youtuber tweeted I'm sorry I don't follow them never have its annoys me that there is a very select few who are called "true" fans who get private notifications who then I turn use this to popularizze them selves within the comunity.

Shame on you dean for the method you choose to deliver your much loved product to the comunity there is a reason I follow you on twitter.. For information which is relevant to the game come on last minute or not a little communication in that specific department would be nice.

Don't get me wrong I love the game I'm super excited have never had anything negative to say about the development nothing negative but I had to say something about this I even registered a new account here to voice my opinion on this subject.

Befor people start the whole oh poor you you missed it your ranting over nothing then I feel sorry for those who think like this it is simply about a tiny insignificant tweet or post on the dayzgame website about something extremely segnificant .

Rant over, I remain excited and after watching on youtube I am even more excited! Great progress on the game keep it up!

 

 

 

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welcome to the forums :-)

[joe_mcentire 2074]

i think we can all agree that it is a bit confusing at times and dean handles information policies obviously quite differently than others. we got and still get used to it.

[terrvik 2409]

Just watched the whole thing, as I wasn't able to last night (beer ain't gonna drink itself). There are lots of small hints in the way he says stuff that hints on a release pretty soon; as in "we want this, might make it in time for alpha". *

 

We should force him to stream more as his inexperience with streaming seems to confuse and stress him enough that those secrets just might pop out. :)

Very cool that he did a stream though, wasn't expecting something like that at all!

 

*Speculation warning

[weparo 613]

"Your stomach grumbles violently"

 

lol, I like it haha :)

[dgeesio 1034]

I nearly cried with joy when he chambered and fired a single round without a magazine. Such depth, such possibilities!

i dont get the big deal about the single chambered round :o

 

as soon as he told us about it everyone will now assume you have a chambered round even if you havent and shoot you just in case ! :lol:

 

so KOS as normal :D

[Dchil 829]

Haven't had a chance to watch the stream yet so I have a question. Will we see proper animations for the guns or are we still looking at somebody miming a reload for an M4?

 

 

i dont get the big deal about the single chambered round  :o

 

as soon as he told us about it everyone will now assume you have a chambered round even if you havent and shoot you just in case !  :lol:

 

so KOS as normal  :D

It is important because you don't want to have to run around with a functioning weapon with ammo but with no mags when ammo can only be loaded into mags and not the firearm itself. 

 

Think about it. You have x gun which takes y mags and z ammo. You have z but due to the mechanics of the game you can't use it because you don't have y.

Edited November 24, 2013 by Dchil

[scaramoosh 162]

But that's their problem, not anyone else's. No one will be forcing anyone to buy the game and everyone's been given plenty of warning of how buggy the alpha will be. We're lucky to have early access to the game, but the consequence of that is we're playing something incomplete- FAR from completion- and expectations should be in line with that.

 

It's the developers problem as bad beta feedback = less people buying... There will be loads of Youtube videos saying it is crap and if you can pay for it, people don't look at it like a beta any more.

[Aporis 422]

Haven't had a chance to watch the stream yet so I have a question. Will we see proper animations for the guns or are we still looking at somebody miming a reload for an M4?

Not in the alpher, but i certainly hope they do that on beta or final release. I hope, from all my heart...

[scaramoosh 162]

I hope Dean stops playing with the screen so blurry it looks like you're drunk in GTA IV.......

 

Looks terrible.

[rossums 2190]

It's the developers problem as bad beta feedback = less people buying... There will be loads of Youtube videos saying it is crap and if you can pay for it, people don't look at it like a beta any more.

It's not a beta though, it's not even an alpha yet.

A beta has a long, long way to go - probably a year or so at least.

The problem will be exactly what you are displaying, people have absolutely NO idea what an alpha or beta is, they just expect to play a game.

[Aporis 422]

It's not a beta though, it's not even an alpha yet.

A beta has a long, long way to go - probably a year or so at least.

The problem will be exactly what you are displaying, people have absolutely NO idea what an alpha or beta is, they just expect to play a game.

People who buy alpha or even beta are just testers not actual players, and should not expect a full game, but they still do. Because its in their nature.

[Papanowel (DayZ) 34]

Good to see the Wolf mask from payday  :D

[sabre05 351]

What does that even mean?? Like its been made but not uploaded? how hard is that to do?

Wasnt one of their biggest optimization bugs, the fact car engines or something make noises globally on the server? Is that really a hard fix?

 

It means that when they add things into the game, it breaks things and adds more bugs, they hadn't fixed the large bugs and optimized the particular build before streaming. 

[terrvik 2409]

The problem will be exactly what you are displaying, people have absolutely NO idea what an alpha or beta is, they just expect to play a game.

 

 

People who buy alpha or even beta are just testers not actual players, and should not expect a full game, but they still do. Because its in their nature.

 

I think they (BIS and rocket) should really consider not calling it an alpha release but rather "making the alpha test public" or something. "Release" for many means that it is a finished product and no sense or explaining in the world will change some people's opinions on the word. :)

[joe_mcentire 2074]

It's not a beta though, it's not even an alpha yet.

A beta has a long, long way to go - probably a year or so at least.

The problem will be exactly what you are displaying, people have absolutely NO idea what an alpha or beta is, they just expect to play a game.

but Miffy is right to some extent. 

 

with all these Kickstarter and Greenlight games in the last years the lines seem to blur more and more.

Although ppl see the games are basically unfinished/raw in the beginning they also see that many of these games more or less stay in a somewhat unfinished state. so kickstarter projects or something like the DayZ model are double-edged swords to me.

Edited November 24, 2013 by joe_mcentire

[dgeesio 1034]

as long as people know what is public test and not a public test what is to get confused about ?

 

as said by someone earlier thing is everyone will just assume that because its out when its out its okay to play which wont be the truth and many issues will be on view .

 

thing is what dayz has going for it is its always been kind of buggy so its not like a suprise either :lol: thing is i dont mind that as its still in bugy form best fun ive had in video games for 2 or 3 years !

 

 

my only worry at moment is they going to deep with trying to do this and do that instead of just getting whats done now out ! i shown the stream to one of my mates on ts last night his reaction was quite like a few i spoke to " they gone to far with that shit " . while adding depth can be good and add life it can also mess up the simpleness of what was fun and is fun in dayz !

 

the single chamber round still doesnt change the end result people will still just shoot you if you have gun in hand this is no different from the mod only difference is you done all the work to get a single round in but youll still die as people will kill you before you say im friendly or i have no ammo. people dont ask questions. so to me that is a little waste of time tbh. arguing about having a gun but no ammo is daft .

 

now down to how its going to go and be released please rocket or devs comment on te serversdie tools and other baics people want to know about and maybe a estimated release date. thats not a get it out now its a geniune give a idea and atleast tell us about important things on how its going to start off from serverside to playing and anticheats and other basics.

[Michaelvoodoo25 3120]

Does the 1 hour pkus video have audio?

[Aporis 422]

Does the 1 hour pkus video have audio?

yes from 15:48 and on :)

[Michaelvoodoo25 3120]

One thing is bothering me.

When updates hit the servers everyone will be affected, servers and game files will need updating.

Can we opt out until the update files are verified and not game killing? We would be at the mercy of the devs until they fixed the game. This means angry people everywhere.

[Max Planck 7174]

One thing is bothering me.

When updates hit the servers everyone will be affected, servers and game files will need updating.

Can we opt out until the update files are verified and not game killing? We would be at the mercy of the devs until they fixed the game. This means angry people everywhere.

 

If people opt out of updates, the updates won't be tested.

The alpha is an open testing phase, I don't think we can expect to play it like a fully released game. There is always the option of waiting till release, though.

[joe_mcentire 2074]

If people opt out of updates, the updates won't be tested.

The alpha is an open testing phase, I don't think we can expect to play it like a fully released game. There is always the option of waiting till release, though.

i highly doubt anyone will wait for the full and final release. that could be in 1 1/2 years maybe. i think the actual model is necessary as many features and balancing are heavily dependent on the players and player behaviour, to create a benchmark of some sort for this game.

 

however if they would consider a DayZ 2 some time later, they should maybe overthink such a model.

Edited November 24, 2013 by joe_mcentire

[SalamanderAnder (DayZ) 1747]

i highly doubt anyone will wait for the full and final release. that could be in 1 1/2 years maybe. i think the actual model is necessary as many features and balancing are heavily dependent on the players and player behaviour, to create a benchmark of some sort for this game.

 

however if they would consider a DayZ 2 some time later, they should maybe overthink such a model.

 

I don't know about DayZ 2 per se, but rather some kind of iterative version of DayZ. Also, don't forget that they will allow modding in the future so that will continuously bring in new user made content. Maybe they can find some way to incorporate approved user content into the official architecture of the game. That would be very interesting.

[philbottle 430]

If people opt out of updates, the updates won't be tested.

The alpha is an open testing phase, I don't think we can expect to play it like a fully released game. There is always the option of waiting till release, though.

 

Very true and knowledge of this won't stop the rage when people find their characters and inventories refreshing on numerous occasions.  :)

 

It's the double edged sword of playing a game while still in comparatively early development. I will get the SA at the earliest opportunity and the most I expect is that I may in some small way be helping with the testing. 

 

To see it otherwise would be quite foolish :rolleyes:

[victusmortuus 1074]

Payday masks? I'm sold.