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I can't club them, I love them seals! D:

But on a more serious and hopefully constructive note, I won't be siding with either group - those who don't mind those cans and those who do. But I can see where either of them are coming from and understand their different points of view.

Let's face it - this whole debate in its core is about two different "sub-communities" resulting from two different ways of playing the game: one group wanting to have a more deep, realistic and immersive kind of gameplay and the other just trying to have fun and enjoying this sort of campy stuff (to simplify things and be blunt).

Whatever decision is made or compromise is found in this specific case, either way some players will be disappointed or upset by it. I actually like NonovUrbizniz' suggestion (http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/125793-the-notorious-can-incident/page__st__60#entry1207557): The only way to please everyone and to NOT let someone feel like "the mod is headed in the wrong direction" is to let everyone decide which way they want to experience this game by choosing which server to play on.

Compare it to the classic MMOs - and I know DayZ isn't one of them (neither do I want it to be), but just like server-architecture etc. this is one thing this game might positively learn from them. Specific "roleplaying" servers are very common amongst them and not only have a different policy, but also let players who want to immerse in the game's universe and lore gather and be safe from "normal" players who break their immersion by having peculiar names or texting and acting in accordance with the players behind them rather than the characters.

Of course, this sort of option does seem rather abundant just for some sorts of food and drinks... but it can be used for much more, like the weapons and vehicles available on the server, the effects of lighting, the zeds' behaviour etc. For the future, I do think the distinction between "normal" and "roleplay" (or "veteran", "hardcore" or whatever you might call them) servers might be a viable option for combining and simplifying existing server-specific options, like crosshairs, 3rd person view and, well, having the new cans and other things.

TL;DR: Include this sort of stuff in the server-specific options. Also, I do love them seals.

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I hear no one ever tried that but you could always ask ;)

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It's okay, I didn't want to sleep anyway.

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Either way back on topic

I think the topic has evolved into something regarding seal clubbing. Lol.

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We have the best Governor Generals (or is that Governors General?)

ON THE first day of her trip to the Arctic, the Governor General of Canada, Michaelle Jean, gutted a freshly slaughtered seal, pulled out its raw heart, and ate it.

After repeated, vigorous cuts through the flesh the Queen's representative turned to the woman beside her and asked enthusiastically: "Could I try the heart?"

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in my opinion the biggest problem is...

humanity stopped evolving...

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I think the topic has evolved into something regarding seal clubbing. Lol.

I think most comments about seal clubbing are more sophisticated than some stupid complaints about muffins (back to topic :P )

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If you order now the DAYZ Standalone version WE DOUBLE THE FUN! Order now and you'll get your very unique audio cd "Sounds of Seal Clubbing"

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So, lets recap.

-New Dev does noble thing by implementing community driven easter eggs in the form of in-game food (Removing what could potential become corporate sponsorship?)

-Stampede of jealous and bitter Redditors spread mis-information and mob Reddit and forums screaming like children until they get their way claiming immersion when there are so many ridiculous

illogical concepts in DayZ their argument is lunacy

-New Dev doesn't stick by his guns and removes aforementioned implementation to remain political to a small minority of people (weak)

Create a poll already so we can bury the hatchet. Hey look, a pun.

I just found the whole "singling a certain group" thing to be very over the top. We should be noted and commented on for our work and input, not what we like or enjoy, that shouldn't be brought into the equation at all and last night upset me alot.

I have read both sides of the story back to front and i still have not slept, i understand that some people were a little sensitive over my idea for canned muffins and i apologize for that, but i actually do really like muffins and i thought it would just add a little more colour, i mean sardines... we can do better!

In the end i would like this issue to be addressed properly and maturely and i support whatever outcome is chosen, we all put alot of time and work in for you guys and i know you all appreciate it, but please don't bring my likes and hobbies into arguments where it just isn't necessary to, i am only human like the rest of you and i do have emotions, lets respect each other as you as an individual would like to be respected because in the end we all share one common hobby.... DayZ.

Yours

Derpy Hooves.

If Anyone should ever wonder why derpy got a can and rhino didn't, link him to his post.

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I know I am late, but I loved the cans. They were cool, they didn't break immersion and it added variety to food types...

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OK -- I've read a few more post's, and I see people would prefer some-sort of commemorative symbol to all DayZ Community & Development Members. However, putting it in the Game would be the wrong step. Something along the lines of Invasion: 1944 would be a better alternative; Add the name's of those who've made it possible in a Splash Screen whilst you load the Game - It'll give far more attention to those whom really do deserve recognition without overly removing the sense of immersion felt in-game.

.Also: Why do you hate Reddit? Haha. I'm certainly no active member, but I do still find the annoyance and general hatred spread across DayZ toward's them is quite pathetic. DayZ Reddit section is the exact same as is here; People post their ideas, thought's and critiques with the difference being they've a more chance of having it seen at large, due to all Post's being on a single page(s) rather then scattered amongst varied sub-Forums. Nut-up.

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yea guys, chill the fuck out, its only a game, who cares if they're funny names, so long as they keep your character alive, if you dont like it, play on another game, but these guys do some damn fine work

keep it up Rocket & co!

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i just don't understand one thing:

why didn't they just change the names?

why remove the (good) models and art?

it's just those 1337 names that've been unnecessary.

canz i please have an awnser on this???

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canz i please have an awnser on this???

Go away.

Edited by Zionist Wabbit

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Well this just fine and dandy, Rocket. Maybe if you did your job properly this wouldn't happen!

It clearly states in your sig that your "In charge of not being retarded" How about you sort out the retards who thought that renamed cans were the end of the world. Then I can go sleep peacefully again.

Now where's that friggin baby seal. :P

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in my opinion the biggest problem is...

humanity stopped evolving...

DO NOT GIVE UP HOPE....

This will be a MAJOR MAJOR part of DayZ Sahrani... we are doing LOTS of stuff with humanity!!!! Some completely new things that I think will make people shit when we announce them...

ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SEE BEHIND THE CURTAIN WE ARE LOOKING FOR MORE DEVS! You WILL be amazed when you hear all the ideas we're putting together... this is NOT a pipe dream we ARE doing it with or without more help... more help just makes it go faster!

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canz i please have an awnser on this???

Because that take HUNDREDS of hours.... the name text didn't show up in the inventory system they names ONLY show in game on the actual 3d food models... in order to "change the name" the designer who textured them needs to go back and re do EVERY texture with a completely new design... it's not like you can use PS text input to make a texture... its a flat image that gets wrapped around a 3d shape so when you draw them they don't look like what they will in game....

I will post a pic of what a texure file looks like later... but long story short is by NOT giving the artist input when he asked for suggested names they made him spend HUNDREDS of hours going in a direction they were willing to drop hands on after 2hrs of squawking from the loudest bunch of children on the internet.

Sahrani/Cifor Public hive will NOT EVER remove these items...

For the record the food will not be FORCED on server hosts either... if they want the food out they will be allowed to remove it easily...

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am i the only one that was like, super mega fuckin' excited to find all these new items?

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Rocket u got misled by a very small part of the community: the whiners.

U should not have removed these items because of them.

I for once think it was nice to see the new cans. And thought it was a nice gesture to devs and forum mods to name it after them.

U should really implement them back and i think i'm not alone with this statement.

A lot of other dayz players did like the new stuff they only don't bother to come on the forums.

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well I for on prefer authenticity. What's wrong with a can of authentic Cambell's soup? or something pertaining to that region?

Or, if you are worried about copyright, how about Canpwell's soup instead? See what I did there?... I changed the letters so that it looks like the real thing, only it is not. Cool, yea?

I thought so to. I invented that, you know.

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well I for on prefer authenticity. What's wrong with a can of authentic Cambell's soup? or something pertaining to that region?

Or, if you are worried about copyright, how about Canpwell's soup instead? See what I did there?... I changed the letters so that it looks like the real thing, only it is not. Cool, yea?

I thought so to. I invented that, you know.

THAT is EXACTLY what the food items were... MslyYsly or w'ever is Mello Yello, ALL of the canned food items were knock off's of actual canned goods they just had a moderator/contributer naming convention instead of straight word play or letter replacement...

Also IMO IF a brand is soo close minded they won't let you advertise for them for free you should not strain yourself trying to make it obvious WHO you are trying to advertise for free.

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