DayZ PS4 Discussion

[dgeesio 1034]

anyone can say we filly wont do this its just with how the game industry is on a whole when selling titles they lie and quote often.

 

just cause they work on the product doesnt mean they wont lie does it ?

 

what is the first thing they will say when you say this ? no we wont do that .

 

 

consoles makes alot more money. thats why many cater especially for them. the main worry is that BI now going ps4 is that these will join the lying crew and do just that all for the sake of business. whether that is the case or not we wont know until we see the finished product.

 

so it doesnt matter if they have the noble prize for game making . its no relevance to whether pc will get shafted for the ps4.

 

that video is faker than a pornstars tits.

[benedictus 160]

Actually, this could be a great thing. Just let us do cross-platform gaming. No separate servers for pisser/xbone/pc. That would be amazing.

 

Average PC player will crap on any console gamer in fps games. 

 

Then again I dont see the PS version getting large player base, so only way it to work for them would be cross-platform. But still, they will get crapped on.

[benedictus 160]

Awesome! I find it funny for PC players, they're only complaining because they don't have a PS4, nice!

 

Thats a solid logic right there.

[Rott (DayZ) 218]

Never happen... Hell the stand alone will never be to the level the mod is... Get@me.

[KingOfTime 267]

Average PC player will crap on any console gamer in fps games. 

 

Then again I dont see the PS version getting large player base, so only way it to work for them would be cross-platform. But still, they will get crapped on.

That's why I want cross-platform servers.

[orochi_kyo 1]

Is there any example of any PC exclusive game getting better when it gets a console port?
UT, Diablo, Fallout, Crisys, Duke Nukem, Doom, Quake franchises didnt get better when those were released for PC and consoles together.
Watchdogs, Dark Souls 2, Alien and other new games had downgraded graphics, because SONY and Microsoft wanted to show that their consoles was powerful enough to match "the most powerful PC in some years from now on"
So why Dayz PC will be better with this "GREAT" announcement.
More money you said?
SO, two and half million of copies sold in steam is not enough, shame on us.
More feedback?
I dont think sony would let Bohemia to release this alpha thing, and I dont think PS4 users have the willing to help in the development of the game, thats why they play on consoles, they just want things done, so they dont need to move from the couch.
Cross-Platforms? Yeah you can make your game to run at 60 FPS downgrading the graphics on the game settings to get a better experience online, or getting a better hardware, while the PS4 will have the game capped at 30FPS, that surely will be a bottleneck for many servers, no thank you.
A faster development and bug fixing? DOnt think so, money and time wasted on the console port, while that money or time could be used for developing faster the game for the customers who already paid for the game.
This is simple, Bohemia is following the way of CD projekt, Crytek, 2K, Epic, receiving bribes from console companies, announcing unfinished games coming to consoles, so kids can get hype cause X game is coming to its platform.
LOL, I didnt give any credit to those guys who said on december that this game will be a deception, I tought they were being to harsh to judge a game which it was just released as Early Access, but they were right all the way.  This is a spit on the face, good job Dean, enjoy the money.

[benedictus 160]

LOL, I didnt give any credit to those guys who said on december that this game will be a deception, I tought they were being to harsh to judge a game which it was just released as Early Access, but they were right all the way.  This is a spit on the face, good job Dean, enjoy the money.

 

What they were exactly right about?

[UltimateGentleman 355]

I dont think sony would let Bohemia to release this alpha thing, and I dont think PS4 users have the willing to help in the development of the game, thats why they play on consoles, they just want things done, so they dont need to move from the couch.

Oh shut up with the PC master race shit.

 

Like PC gamers don't sit at a desk all day playing WoW or whatever too, how ridiculously hypocritical. Console gamers are the ones that go outside way more that's just obvious PC games are largely designed to keep you on your ass all day as most of them are MMO's.

 

Plus PC gamers are so elite that they understand the whole "alpha" thing apparently...

 

Have you...been on this forum before? Go look on general discussion or the new player part and see how long it takes you to find someone whining if it takes more than 5 seconds you're a slow reader.

 

 

 

I still don't see what's wrong with the devs getting lots of money...it's kind of their job, y'know. Putting it on console will get it buckets more money, it's the smart thing to do why should they only cater to PC gamers when they can triple their target audience(if it goes on X1)

 

If you don't think it will be popular on console, you're wrong.

1. Open world game, everyone loves those.

2. Zombie game, everyone loves those too.

3. You can hunt and do whatever you want, everyone will love that freedom.

4. There's guns and you can kill people.

 

 

The only thing that might hurt it's sales is H1Z1, if they can manage to get it out there first they'll make tons of money.

But even then it'll cost them less to make a console version than they'll gain from it anyway.

Edited August 21, 2014 by UltimateGentleman

[dgeesio 1034]

Oh shut up with the PC master race shit.

 

Like PC gamers don't sit at a desk all day playing WoW or whatever too, how ridiculously hypocritical. Console gamers are the ones that go outside way more that's just obvious PC games are largely designed to keep you on your ass all day as most of them are MMO's.

 

Plus PC gamers are so elite that they understand the whole "alpha" thing apparently...

 

Have you...been on this forum before? Go look on general discussion or the new player part and see how long it takes you to find someone whining if it takes more than 5 seconds you're a slow reader.

 

 

 

I still don't see what's wrong with the devs getting lots of money...it's kind of their job, y'know. Putting it on console will get it buckets more money, it's the smart thing to do why should they only cater to PC gamers when they can triple their target audience(if it goes on X1)

 

If you don't think it will be popular on console, you're wrong.

1. Open world game, everyone loves those.

2. Zombie game, everyone loves those too.

3. You can hunt and do whatever you want, everyone will love that freedom.

4. There's guns and you can kill people.

 

 

The only thing that might hurt it's sales is H1Z1, if they can manage to get it out there first they'll make tons of money.

But even then it'll cost them less to make a console version than they'll gain from it anyway.

 

why you think sony have both ? they cant lose now.

[Death_Dealer 3155]

[snip]

 

It's funny because you're just like the PC master race elitists, except on the other end of the spectrum. You just generalized and stereotyped the shit out of PC gamers. 

[q.S Sachiel 470]

-stuff-

 

UT it seems was developed alongside consoles from the start, and was a very successful franchise, which was critically acclaimed with diminishing returns as they pushed the franchise further without developing it or adding new life (UT2k3/4 discounted). -moot

Diablo was originally a PC game, that saw console support in D3, which was trash/poorly received critically for reasons other than 'consulululuz' -moot/wrong

Fallout was originally a PC game, that saw console support in F3, which was critically acclaimed, and had other serious franchises developed on the same engine ie: elder scrolls, also critically acclaimed on both platforms. -moot/wrong.

Duke Nukem... ....

LOL! STAHP IT NOW...

really? Duke Nukem as a reason why consoles fucked up? AHHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH

this part of comment may even rival the game in question [:o]

Doom was originally a PC game, and Doom3 was released on consoles after PC release.... -wrong

Quake was originally a PC game. Q3A was considered one of the better PC-console ports, and originally came out on PC. Quake4 was released on consoles after PC release. -wrong

DarkSouls 1 had poor graphics, as did 2. The biggest issue with souls was that it had a poorly mapped command scheme and no keyboard prompt support. The game was still critically acclaimed across platforms, but was a more hardcore gaming experience.

Aliens (i'll go ahead and assume you mean aliens colonial marines, because AVP/2 was amazing on PC...) was a straight up cash grab by sega, and there was also rumor that money was inapropriately funnelled to the borderlands DLC from the pre-orders of ACM.

DS and ACM aside, your point on this line was that grahics suffered as a result, and as much as i disliked DS and ACM on grounds other than poor graphics... i still play SWOTL and SCUMM games ocasionally. Games, as with music, was much better on a percentage basis when built in the 90's for the most part imo, and i played so many games on my pentium 166 back in the day that i could care less about graphics. More importantly, you didn't comment on whether you thought the DayZ graphics were good/poor at the moment, as DayZ is currently only on PC, already on PC, and I fail to see the benefit in tuning graphics down for reasons other than performance (you imply that BI will dumb down the graphics for console release, which outside of optimization or performance tweaking, would mean more work for less gain...)

FURTHER, as stated, ACM was a cash grab out-and-out, but they released a tech-demo of the game highlighting greater fidelity than the game was released with. This is not analogous at all to DayZ, as we're currently playing the whole thing, not just watching some pre-rendered walkthrough controlled entirely by the publisher.

you've basically just spouted a whole bunch of hate that's either wrong or ill-conceived, but haters gotta hate.

 

TLDR: mentioned DNF, instant F-;  most listed titles either were critically acclaimed across platform, or were PC first; Graphics queens gonna queen.

Edited August 22, 2014 by q.S Sachiel

[UltimateGentleman 355]

It's funny because you're just like the PC master race elitists, except on the other end of the spectrum. You just generalized and stereotyped the shit out of PC gamers. 

 

The difference is PC gamers are definitely more prone to sitting in for hours on an MMO, if you could look up how many people have WoW and how many hours they've logged it'd be obvious.

 

How many console gamers do you know that sit in all day? I know about 3.

PC gamers I know rarely see the light of day.

[Grunner 96]

Stop the off-topic bullshit I'm fucking sick of hearing it. From both parties. Can't you think of anything constructive to add to the discussion? Piss off.

 

It's times like these I'm ashamed to be a gamer at all, sounds to me like DayZ is heading in EXACTLY the right direction.

 

Please graveyard this topic until there is actually something tangible on the PS4 front, as this "discussion" has degenerated into little girls slinging their nappies.

[UltimateGentleman 355]

Stop the off-topic bullshit I'm fucking sick of hearing it. From both parties. Can't you think of anything constructive to add to the discussion? Piss off.

 

It's times like these I'm ashamed to be a gamer at all, sounds to me like DayZ is heading in EXACTLY the right direction.

 

Please graveyard this topic until there is actually something tangible on the PS4 front, as this "discussion" has degenerated into little girls slinging their nappies.

 

Hey I'm just defending consoles, it's the "PC master race" that starts this bickery did anyone here say "wooo that means PS4 > PC!"?

 

No, "PC master race" people just got bitter over it, they can fuck off.

 

 

So any word on the kind of price this will go for and disc or no disc?

[Zombie Jesus 723]

Hey I'm just defending consoles, it's the "PC master race" that starts this bickery did anyone here say "wooo that means PS4 > PC!"?

 

No, "PC master race" people just got bitter over it, they can fuck off.

 

 

So any word on the kind of price this will go for and disc or no disc?

 

Only the master race gets a discount, plebs get to pay full retail (Hope the sarcasm was obvious).. 

[Death_Dealer 3155]

Stop the off-topic bullshit I'm fucking sick of hearing it. From both parties. Can't you think of anything constructive to add to the discussion? Piss off.

 

It's times like these I'm ashamed to be a gamer at all, sounds to me like DayZ is heading in EXACTLY the right direction.

 

Please graveyard this topic until there is actually something tangible on the PS4 front, as this "discussion" has degenerated into little girls slinging their nappies.

 

pls calm down

 

It's always going to turn into a discussion about PC vs console or something along the lines of comparing/contrasting the two, that's just the nature of the topic

 

Did you really expect people to be civil?

Edited August 22, 2014 by Death Dealer

[Baker. 1484]

Not sure what everyone is arguing about. A DayZ console port has far to little impact on any of our lives to warrant such aggression as displayed above. If DayZ becomes shit due its availability on PS4 then rest assured someone will make the product you are looking for on PC so they can take your money.

 

Arma 3 2017 is also in the works which looks promising, and the mod is better than ever. It seems to me most people (myself included) are too hung up on DayZ SA not being the game you want.

 

Go back to the mod for a while, its still really fun and there are enough pure vanilla servers to satiate all of us. The mod is still fun and hard as shit. The Zombies work, the loot works, tents work, stashes work, there are lots of guns and TBH the Arma 2 graphics aren't too damn shabby. The graphics as well can be made a lot more bloomy with sweetfx or other shader mods. And since everyone is complaining about the hats and track pants you are in luck as you will find none of those there.....

[UltimateGentleman 355]

Yeah I just like how people are like eurgh if it's on console it will be ruined!...PC version is still there..

 

If anything the PC version could end up better since CoD 360noscope type players might migrate to the PS4/X1 versions to be h4rdcor3 there.

 

But since it'll all be optimized and probably not early access I'll enjoy being able to axe them in the head without hitting a wall behind me instead :D

 

 

Anyway DayZ could just be the beginning of a franchise from Bohemia, if they get tons of money from the console version as well future projects will be crazy good.

[archamedes 238]

Frankly I don't see what the fuss is all about, looking all over the net I see why people keep saying its a bad idea. So what if it is? It's not going to ffect your pc gaming in the slightest, if you don't want it on a console, then don't buy it on a console, simple. I can see a few plus sides to a ps4 port...

 

- firstly anyone who is running a laptop or low end pc will get to see the game in full detail hopefully, so long as they don't reduce that on final release.

 

- The ps4 has a laptop mouse style pad so I can imagine using that in the inventory panel could help, but I do find it a bit too sensitive sometimes, unless i need to change that in settings

 

- No hackers. I'm assuming there won't be anyway.

 

- if there are any unfixed bugs on final release you can get ps4 updates and fixes too.

[UltimateGentleman 355]

- firstly anyone who is running a laptop or low end pc will get to see the game in full detail hopefully, so long as they don't reduce that on final release.

 

Now undoubtedly people will come here saying the PS4 can't handle it because if it's not a computer it can't have good graphics which is lol.

My computer is a piece of shit and it can run it on high settings easily Nvidia control just seems to think it can't.

 

 

I think they should just make the inventor have a highlighted part you move around, touchpad could be a bit awkward or perhaps the motion controls could be useable, would take some getting used too though.

 

Or maybe they could make an app that lets you manage you inventory on an iPad/iPod/Android, that would be great.

[Baker. 1484]

Now undoubtedly people will come here saying the PS4 can't handle it because if it's not a computer it can't have good graphics which is lol.

My computer is a piece of shit and it can run it on high settings easily Nvidia control just seems to think it can't.

 

 

Yeah I think its a leftover mentality from the PowerPC console days. The PS4 has an 8 core x86 processor and a Radeon 7870 paired with 8Gb of GDDR5. Once the engine becomes multithreaded it will run like a beast.

[UltimateGentleman 355]

Yeah I think its a leftover mentality from the PowerPC console days. The PS4 has an 8 core x86 processor and a Radeon 7870 paired with 8Gb of GDDR5. Once the engine becomes multithreaded it will run like a beast.

I feel like people coming to this thread should have to read that first :P

 

It really is like people just go "The PS3 sucked that means the PS4 isn't any better" when it has like 32 times more RAM or something. A lot of it seems to be based off games not getting 1080p or 60FPS...which is entirely the developers fault because they don't know what they're doing or can't be bothered, happens with every generation.

[Death_Dealer 3155]

Yeah I think its a leftover mentality from the PowerPC console days. The PS4 has an 8 core x86 processor and a Radeon 7870 paired with 8Gb of GDDR5. Once the engine becomes multithreaded it will run like a beast.

 

That's not the desktop GPU you're probably thinking of, it's more comparable to a 7850, which is not very exciting and will quickly become even more outdated as time goes on. While the CPU has 8 cores, they are 8 very weak cores. I'm not saying the PS4 sucks, no one should expect anything amazing from a $400 console. But it's not as good as you're making it out to be.

 

They would have to dumb down DayZ quite a bit for it to run somewhat decent on a PS4, or optimize the living hell out of it. I highly doubt the latter though 

 

It'd be great for console players to have a chance at trying out DayZ (I remember how badly I wanted to play the game when I didn't have a PC to run it), but I wouldn't expect anything mindblowing

Edited August 23, 2014 by Death Dealer

[Baker. 1484]

But it's not as good as you're making it out to be.

 

 

I'm not making it out to be anything, those are the specs. Do they have to dumb down DayZ to play on a computer with an AMD chip and a even a Radeon 7850? I fail to see your logic DD.

 

The answer is they dont. Plus consider the development of a multithreaded engine.

 

Edited August 23, 2014 by Bakermensch

[Death_Dealer 3155]

That CPU is much more powerful than the one in the PS4, and as you know what GPU you have makes almost no difference in DayZ

 

If they can get it to look good and run good, then fantastic, I'm not against it at all