Weapon tier list. Best and worst?

[koroush47 1]

What do you guys consider the best weapons? As in... If you had to choose between them... which ones would you choose first, second, third, etc.. And why?

 

And how about the worst? 

 

 

[rickyriot 1009]

There have been several threads similar to this, do a quick search (They should have shown up when you put it your title for this thread before you submitted it).

 

However in regard to your question it's too vague. Close range things like a shotgun and magnum are great, long range they are shite. Are you talking about toe to toe city combat in which case an AK is good or are you talking roaming the countryside where an SKS or a Mosin, depending on scope, would be better.

[Mookie (original) 799]

There was a pretty big thread on the New Players forum a month or two ago about this.

 

It's all relative to play style. For real PvPers, it's probably the AKM, especially with a PSO option. For lone wolves it could be a scoped Mosin (depending on what, if anything, happens with sway).

 

For out and out gear fetishists like me, it has to be the M4 - assuming you can find the attachments that play to the gun's greatest strength; its flexibility. (In b4 predictable "I killed a guy who had an M4 with my pipe wrench" comments....)

 

Also, you might as well make it interesting and ask what the best combinations of a primary and secondary (ie sidearm) are. So scoped Mosin/MP5, M4/FNX, AKM/sawn-off, etc. Oh, and the inevitable considerations of ammo/mag availability.

 

But it's all very rock/paper/scissors.

Edited January 12, 2015 by Mookie

[koroush47 1]

I was mostly asking for personal preference when it came to weapons, and why the person likes said weapon over other alternatives..

 

I know you'd want a mosin for long range and a shotgun for close..  :)

[rickyriot 1009]

I was mostly asking for personal preference when it came to weapons, and why the person likes said weapon over other alternatives..

 

I know you'd want a mosin for long range and a shotgun for close..  :)

 

As I say, there have been several threads that list this, just search and add to that rather than starting a new one.

 

This is a fairly recent thread that covered pretty much what you have asked...

http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/217294-most-versatile-weapon-combination/

[tofur 16]

The mosin is pretty good since it's ammo is widely available.  I've made kills in close range and long range with it, although in a perfect world you'd have a sawn off to clear buildings with.

 

When the M1 garand shows up it will be the gun to have outside of the rare military ones.  I hope they either make .30-06 ammo widely available or just make the garand use the 7.62 ammo the mosin rocks.  It would be semi-legit because M1's can be converted to the 7.62mm round in real life and ballistically they are almost identical. 

Edited January 12, 2015 by tofur

[LORDPrometheus 21]

It all comes down to play style and range.

Close range passive: pistols or shotguns

Close range aggressive: shotguns

Mid range passive: mosin, repeater, carbine

Mid range aggressive: sks or assault rifles

Long range passive: assault rifles, sks, or mosin

Long range aggressive: mosin

Passive means you just scare people off or generally avoid a fight aggressive means you are looking for a fight

SMGs basically don't exist so don't bother trying to find them

As for the best in categories I'd say this:

Melee: fire axe

Shotgun: pistol grip mp-133

Pistol: FNX45 or magnum (longhorn if sniping)

Assault rifle: AKM or m4

Long range: scoped mosin or scoped SKS

Useless guns:

Repeater

1911s (as much as I love them IRL)

Makarov

Ak-74 (due to extreme rarity of mags)

P-1

All melee weapons beside splitting or fire axe

Sporter if not really skilled

Derringer (must be lucky to use)

[LORDPrometheus 21]

The mosin is pretty good since it's ammo is widely available.  I've made kills in close range and long range with it, although in a perfect world you'd have a sawn off to clear buildings with.

 

When the M1 garand shows up it will be the gun to have outside of the rare military ones.  I hope they either make .30-06 ammo widely available or just make the garand use the 7.62 ammo the mosin rocks.  It would be semi-legit because M1's can be converted to the 7.62mm round in real life and ballistically they are almost identical.

I've never heard of this conversion so I'm assuming this is something done by a gunsmith using existing hardware in that case it's very unlikely to be common

[treetop82 59]

Ignore the trolls, good question.

 

In my 400+ hours, I'd say there are a few weapons I like.

 

First combo, mosin/sawed off is one of the best for sniping/city combo. However it doesn't give you any firepower mid range, as some dude with a machine gun (akm/m4) would tear you up from 100 meters.

 

Another combo I had was the AK101/AK74U, yes, two machine guns and both with silencers. This gave me a diversity of ammunition to use and the AK74U fits in the backpack. The AK101 had a PSO scope on it for mid range fighting/sniping. I liked this combo very well, it's hard to beat. Why use a pistol?

 

Anyway, consider the addition of silencers into the game. Once pistol silencers come in the game, I'll probably go M4/FNX combo. I just don't like being heard, especially when dealing with endless zombies and not wanting my gear to get damaged. I rarely fight with an axe any more.

 

Edit: Also consider this, the shotgun is great for survival, but if you want to loot someones stuff then its a bad choice. It will ruin nearly everything.

Edited January 12, 2015 by treetop82

[Deathlove 2286]

AK 74 U is a really good middle ground weapon for most situations especially if you can get a PSO scope for it. Plus it fits in your pack without wasting a main gun slot.

[Dagwood 680]

Mosin with LRS and silenced AK74U is best combo in game currently, hands down. Long range killing capability coupled with a silenced assault rifle is pretty killer. Plus, you don't have to worry about all the double carrying nonsense.

A close second would be a properly outfitted M4. It is a very versatile weapon in dayz and has no real need for a sidearm, freeing up space for dope and beer.

@deathlove AFAIK neither AK74 can mount the PSO. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Edited January 12, 2015 by Dagwood

[Evil Minion 943]

I made a list some time ago and will probably update it in the future. as it was about single weapons the M4 with CQB Stock won followed by the AKM.

Useless guns:
Repeater Easy to find, easy to get ammo for, fairly accurate and a big internal magazine - not useless at all.
1911s (as much as I love them IRL) Makes a viable sidearm as gun and magzines are not too rare and the damage is quite high. Ammo is harder but possible.
Makarov Very common ammo and magazines make this a viable sidearm even at its low power.
Ak-74 (due to extreme rarity of mags)
P-1
All melee weapons beside splitting or fire axe Some items like the Farming Hoe are just as powerful as a Splitting Axe while others allow for easy knockouts.
Sporter if not really skilled You need a magazine for it then it can be quite useful ibn close engagements.
Derringer (must be lucky to use) Works as a sidearm mainly because of it's small size, low noise profile and high accuracy.

Add the CR-527 - a weaker SKS that cannot mount a Scope. It's only advantage is the higher Dexterity mitigated by its slow rate of fire.

[DURRHUNTER 597]

Useless guns:

Repeater

1911s (as much as I love them IRL)

Makarov

Ak-74 (due to extreme rarity of mags)

P-1

All melee weapons beside splitting or fire axe

Sporter if not really skilled

Derringer (must be lucky to use)

Repeater, even though it has no scope (which hopefully it will one day) drives tacks. Its super accurate.

1911- yea, its useless.

Makarov- AFAIK its a 1 shot headshot to zombies, common mags, common ammo.

Ak-74- yep

P-1: Its is the worst pistol statistically, if you want a 9mm pistol go for CR75.

Sporter can be useful in the hands of a skilled player.

Derringer is kinda useless...i mean if you have some .45acp and no 1911 or FNX it can be a decent little backup for zombies.

[Grimey Rick 3417]

In my opinion, the AKS-74U is an overrated weapon. I've had to shoot both zombies and other players more than I would probably have to with an actual AKS-74U every time. It has neither the stopping power nor the damage it should. The M1911 and FNX45 both offer superior stopping power and damage. The only advantage of the AKS-74U is that it's automatic, debatably better for those "OSHI" moments.

 

A PSO-1 Scope performs at the same level in this game as the Long Range Scope. I can just as consistently hit targets at range using an AKM coupled with a PSO-1 Scope as I can using a Mosin coupled with a Long Range Scope. The 7.62x39mm bullet does slightly less damage than the 7.62x51mm, but in most cases it doesn't make a difference. The myth that the Mosin is "the" sniper rifle in DayZ is seemingly ubiquitous, however, such is not the case.

 

My personal preference is (and has always been) a bolt-action rifle (like the Mosin/Lee Enfield (Mod)) and a revolver (Magnum/Revolver (Mod)). If I wanted to go on a murdering spree, I'd just grab an AKM/AK-101. These two assault rifles are easily the best guns in the game for near, mid and far range combat. The M4A1 is just as good, but it's rare as fuck, so I wouldn't recommend holding out for one.

 

All of the other weapons have their own appeal and can be useful, but if you're looking for the best all-around weapon in DayZ, just grab an AK variant assault rifle and go to town.

 

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Edited January 12, 2015 by Grimey Rick

[Whyherro123 2283]

Every weapon has the capability of being truly fuck-awesome, depending on skill and circumstances. I've gotten 13 kills in a row using the bow in a past life, by stalking and ambushing players that apparently couldn't recognize an ambush (opened food in the middle of the road) when they saw one. Would I use it when face-to-face in Berezino? No. I've also gotten more kills with the Blaze 95 than I have ever got with an AKM or an M4.

 

However, certain weapons definitely facilitate combat, due to certain characteristics. Whether you view this as a "crutch" or a "benefit" is ultimately personal preference.

 

-Revolver: most "effective" sidearm in the game, hands-down, solely because it doesn't require magazines. Those high-capacity automatics are worth fuck-all when you don't have a magazine. The power of the cartridge, as well as its ubiquity, is a secondary benefit.

 

-AKM: easy to keep fed, (relatively) easy to find, and user-friendly (easy to spray-and-pray, due to ubiquity of cartridges, as well as magazines being common). I have a love-hate relationship with the AKM: I use it whenever I have the chance, but the utterly pants-on-head STUPID tactics it provokes (I've seen people stand in the middle of the road to fire, spraying a full magazine at me, and never hit. Something about assault rifles makes "tacti-cool kids" think they are invincible.) makes me sigh whenever I see my fellow clan-mates pick them up and spray everywhere. When I use it, I tap the fire button to fire single rounds, and avoid spraying whenever possible

 

-MP133 pump action: Love this thing. Shotguns are probably my favorite firearm in real life. They finally got buckshot "kind of" right, in the sense that they fire multiple pellets, and deal kind-of appropriate damage. Add some slugs, and let both shot and slugs reach the appropriate range, and I would use this thing pretty much to the exclusion of all other firearms.

[PhillyT 554]

Is the pistol grip MP133 better than the normal one?  I couldn't tell any difference.

[Whyherro123 2283]

Is the pistol grip MP133 better than the normal one?  I couldn't tell any difference.

It is debatable.  The pistol-grip "Stakeout"-style MP-133 is "handier" (turns faster when raised), making it more useful indoors, but hold fewer shells than the standard. I prefer the standard for that reason, as having an extra two shells in the magazine could be a life-saver in CQC (no speedloader for the tube magazine, which takes a few seconds to reload. LOVE IT).

 

I just want the ability to "top off" magazines, rather than having to empty them entirely, as well as the ability to alternate shells (1 slug, 1 buck, 1 flare, 3 buck, etc)

 

In reality, a shotgun would arguably be the "best" (most effective, easiest logistics, wide range of shells, capable of being reloaded with black-powder, etc) firearm to have for any SHTF-scenario. 12 Gauge is the most common shot-shell chambering in the world, is powerful, reasonably light-weight, multi-purpose (birdshot for small game, buckshot for large game/self-defense, slugs for range and pure stopping power. Shot can reach out to 20-30 meters or so, depending on choke and shot pattern, and slugs can be accurate out to 100m), easy to reload ("paper shells" can be made by hand, brass shells can be reloaded. Having a smooth bore makes reloading (especially cleaning) with blackpowder easier, as well as shot and slug-making relatively simple using the lead weights from tires, steel wool and wax, or birdshot and wax (tons of videos on Youtube). Finally, the lack of a lot of moving parts (compared to automatic firearms) and the reliance of the user physically cycling the action makes maintenance simpler than other firearms (not to say that they don't need to be cleaned and maintained!)

 

I just want a reloading system. Make it realistic, but let me reload my shotshells and revolver rounds! That is one (of many) reasons why they are useful!

[cheranuscrusiser 21]

Do you mean best firearm or melee combat weapon or do you just mean best of any kind of weapon?

Because if you mean what is the best of any kind of weapon, well hands down it's the ESP hack, no questions asked. Followed secondly by the speed hack.

But if you mean what is the best firearm weapon, then I think it's the repeater right now in terms of easyness of finding ammo for it and decent stopping power and firing rate.

The other weapons are great but hard to find ammo for them.

[Avant-Garde 229]

The one I can find ammo easily is the best imo. I would love to wield a AK class weapon, but I have never seen theyr mags so Mosin, that lever action rifle, sporter 22 and shotguns are the best for me.

[Whyherro123 2283]

Do you mean best firearm or melee combat weapon or do you just mean best of any kind of weapon?

Because if you mean what is the best of any kind of weapon, well hands down it's the ESP hack, no questions asked. Followed secondly by the speed hack.

But if you mean what is the best firearm weapon, then I think it's the repeater right now in terms of easyness of finding ammo for it and decent stopping power and firing rate.

The other weapons are great but hard to find ammo for them.

I do love the repeater. It is my second favorite firearm, right after shotguns. The sheer logistical effectiveness of having both a longarm and a sidearm use the same ammunition cannot be beat. The fact that it is reasonably powerful and accurate within a reasonable range is only a plus...

[Whyherro123 2283]

I made a list some time ago and will probably update it in the future. as it was about single weapons the M4 with CQB Stock won followed by the AKM.

Add the CR-527 - a weaker SKS that cannot mount a Scope. It's only advantage is the higher Dexterity mitigated by its slow rate of fire.

With one 30rnd magazine for the Sporter (or two, if you are lucky), the Sporter 22 becomes a "poor mans assault rifle). You can fire literally as fast as you can click, with little recoil, gorgeous iron sights, and easy-to-find ammunition.

 

If anything, both 10rnd snail-magazines and .22LR bricks themselves need to be spawned more often. It is the most common small-rifle chambering in the world, after all....

[gannon46 788]

i think all the weapons in the game have a use it just depends on the situation and what they were designed for after all they are tools to say this gun is shit and this gun is god just leads us down the COD road were everyone looks the same and meta's the fuck out of any new content. how did this game get so competitive maybe human nature i use what i like and what i'm effecient with and if its considered the worst who cares my toon lives and thats all that matters when you log out.

[sachad 1016]

My personal list:

 

1. MP-133: As I am a pretty lousy shot at distances over 50 yards, shotguns are my weapon of choice, and the MP-133 is my #1. It packs a wallop even at a distance, and with the ability to fire six shots in rapid succession, this thing has the potential to tear through a group of enemies in seconds. One or two solid hits will drop most survivors. Ammo is plentiful, and the gun itself is not difficult to find.

2. Sawn-off Izh-43: I make it a priority to get one of these. It tucks away nicely in your backpack or Riders vest, and it is extremely deadly up close. And while you may only have two shots, you can fire them within a split second, turning anything standing before you into swiss cheese. This is my go-to weapon for going door-to-door in dangerous cities. 

3. SKS: I consider this the AKMs baby brother. It's accurate and fairly powerful, but it lacks that full-auto mode. I'm still placing it above the AKM, however, because unlike the AKM, you don't have to bother with finding magazines. The SKS was my first favorite weapon in my early playing days, and I still consider it the best civilian rifle for my own taste and skills.

4. AKM: My favorite weapon in terms of pure badassery. Hearing an AKM go off nearby still frightens me. Having one on you just gives you rush. Also, drum magazines!

5. Magnum: My favorite handgun by a mile. Loud, powerful and accurate, requires no magazines and doesn't take attachments. Just pick it up, load it and you're ready to go.

[xhiril 43]

I like Mosin for long range, AK-74u with suppressor for everything else.

 

A suppressed machine gun that fits in a backpack cannot be underestimated.

[Cap'n (DayZ) 1827]

This depends more on circumstance, and the cards your dealt.

 

Not everyone can easily stumble upon assault rifles, so you've got to realize that you sometimes have to settle for less. The repeater and magnum are both AMAZING weapons in their own right. A medium-close range power combo that are both fed by common ammo and do surprisingly good damage while having great accuracy. The SKS on the other hand, while having uncommon ammo, is essentially a poor mans assault rifle. It has a decent scope and can be fed by reloadable clips.

 

And the Mosin. Mosin is fucking life. 1-2 hit kill, 1 hit knockout in most cases, SUPER accurate with the right stuff and has very common ammo. Doubles as an amazing sniper rifle.

 

As for actual assault rifles, AKM is the best. While it's a bit heavy on recoil, it's accurate and deals good damage. Plus you can attach the PSO scope. While the other AK's are sort of mediocre, the AKS-74U is a CQB beast. Dexterity that beats any other in it's class.

 

Pistols, Magnum and anything .45. Deal good damage, acceptable accuracy and not too much of a bitch to find.