Lead Producer of DayZ says, "1PP is better"

[blunce 991]

At no point did Hicks say "1PP is better". He's simply encouraging those who haven't experienced 1PP yet to do so.

 

Title is very misleading.

 

It's all preference. Why is the battle between the 2 perspectives still going on within this community? It's subjective, opinionated, & preference.

 

Providing the 2 perspective's not only means catering more to the fan base (resulting in more sales), but it's that very same fan base that has the liberty of playing as they please.

 

Everyone wins.

Edited November 24, 2014 by blunce

[byrgesen 1341]

Ive read all 4 pages now, and i still have absolutely NO idea, why we are even talking about, what camera perspective Brian Hicks likes.......  :|

[solodude23 649]

If some people in this thread have tried 1PP and found it felt too restrictive - keep trying at it. When I first converted, I felt extremely restricted and vulnerable. This goes away after not long. Just remember to keep your head on a pivot (abuse that alt key) and adjust your POV to an acceptably wide view. Wide enough to not feel constricted but not too wide that it makes everything on the screen tiny.

 

After some play I realized that gameplay-wise, 3PP servers make you more vulnerable. The ability for other players to see you over a wall or around a building fosters vulnerability at all times. In 1PP I feel much safer as I stealthily move through towns - using movement that would be rendered useless if people could see me around and over structures.

 

Definitely a misleading title however and as soon as I read the status report I knew some ridiculous thread like this would pop up. I'm a huge 1PP fan but this simply isn't needed.

[-Gews- 7443]

I've personally had some amazing player interaction in those worlds [...] restricting the perspective to what your character can actually see has a large impact on how people approach the game, and other players.

I prefer 1PP but not for the reasons Hicks gave, the PvP is better, nothing to do with "interactions" for me. 1PP doesn't reward lengthy camping behind every object and give people floating cameras 6-1/2 ft behind their heads, can't claim any "authenticity" with such features. It's almost pointless complaining about stuff like weapon realism when the entire combat experience is so silly.

[KamiOfKOS 50]

Why you guys hate 1st person ? It s more immersive, or you are all cornerglitcher to take advantage ? I like 3rd too but imho 1st its better !

You could leave both mode on ALL server by nerfing the OP corner glitching.

Edited November 25, 2014 by KamiOfKOS

[St. Jimmy 1631]

Player interactions are bit different with 1PP but the view also affects how you deal with the zombies. With 3PP you don't get surprised so easily. Same things that 3PP has effect on PVP it also have the same effects against zombies. Also vehicles have more restricted view in 1PP.

 

PVP and player interaction aren't the only things that gets different with 1PP...

[TGPstolas 20]

My only question is... what is 3PP and 1PP??

i know its first and third person, but whats the other p for?

 

[theirongiant 200]

My only question is... what is 3PP and 1PP??

i know its first and third person, but whats the other p for?

 

 

perspective - which is ironic as it's the thing most of these 1pp v 3pp threads lack

Edited November 25, 2014 by theirongiant74

[TGPstolas 20]

perspective - which is ironic as it's the thing most of these 1pp v 3pp threads lack

very true, thats why that was all i added. i believe both perspectives are enjoyable and great in their own way, but i dont see the need to bash on another persons preference. i play 1st/3rd mostly, but i do enjoy the occasional 1st person adventures with a mosin w/lrs on my back.

why all the hate on people that prefer a different type of server than your own?

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

very true, thats why that was all i added. i believe both perspectives are enjoyable and great in their own way, but i dont see the need to bash on another persons preference. i play 1st/3rd mostly, but i do enjoy the occasional 1st person adventures with a mosin w/lrs on my back.

why all the hate on people that prefer a different type of server than your own?

It's not the server, it's the wall peeking that people do not like.  It puts you at an extreme disadvantage to those who play in first person mode on a 3pp server.

[Nebulae3 422]

1sr person is realistic and, of course, better. I usually run 1st person in a 3rd person server when I use compass etc.

[TGPstolas 20]

It's not the server, it's the wall peeking that people do not like.  It puts you at an extreme disadvantage to those who play in first person mode on a 3pp server.

it is the server, i mean the type of perspective. if im going to play in first person exclusively, i will play on a dedicated first person server.

and you have that the other way around, if im in a firefight with a guy using solely 1PP on a 3PP server, i will have the advantage, being able to see him first if hes coming around a corner or something,

[DocWolf 146]

It's not the server, it's the wall peeking that people do not like.  It puts you at an extreme disadvantage to those who play in first person mode on a 3pp server.

 

Using only 1st person on 3rd person servers will put you ALWAYS at an extreme disadvantage, even without wall peeking and with a camera view relocated closer to the character as many here and the other thread advocate. Just saying. You know...reality check.

 

Maybe it's time to start playing on dedicated 1st person servers? I play on both, and I enjoy this alpha.

[Jex 1104]

At no point did Hicks say "1PP is better". He's simply encouraging those who haven't experienced 1PP yet to do so.

 

Title is very misleading.

 

It's all preference. Why is the battle between the 2 perspectives still going on within this community? It's subjective, opinionated, & preference.

 

Providing the 2 perspective's not only means catering more to the fan base (resulting in more sales), but it's that very same fan base that has the liberty of playing as they please.

 

Everyone wins.

 

The battle is still going on because of the ability to wall peek. If I chose to play in 1stpp, why should I be penalised for doing so? Why should I have to put up with not being able to see over walls like other people can. I'm not talking about joining a 1pp server, I'm talking about playing on a 3pp enabled server because sometimes, I want to look at my Avatar. So why is nothing being done to make my choice of viewpoint equal to everyone else's?

 

it is the server, i mean the type of perspective. if im going to play in first person exclusively, i will play on a dedicated first person server.

and you have that the other way around, if im in a firefight with a guy using solely 1PP on a 3PP server, i will have the advantage, being able to see him first if hes coming around a corner or something,

 

 

Using only 1st person on 3rd person servers will put you ALWAYS at an extreme disadvantage, even without wall peeking and with a camera view relocated closer to the character as many here and the other thread advocate. Just saying. You know...reality check.

 

Maybe it's time to start playing on dedicated 1st person servers? I play on both, and I enjoy this alpha.

 

LOL you're all agreeing with each other ;)

[DocWolf 146]

LOL you're all agreeing with each other ;)

 

Yeah. Especially the part where he speaks of wall peeking and I say that regardless of wall peeking and/or camera position someone playing only in 1st person on 3rd person server will ALWAYS be greatly disadvantaged. Especially that part indeed.

Edited November 25, 2014 by DocWolf

[Jex 1104]

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Yeah. Especially the part where he speaks of wall peeking and I say that regardless of wall peeking and/or camera position someone playing only in 1st person on 3rd person server will ALWAYS be greatly disadvantaged. Especially that part indeed.

 

Well everyone is saying you're disadvantaged playing 1pp against 3pp - I'm not sure why it needs repeating 3 times. It's the wall peeking that is the issue, not sure what else would greatly disadvantage you other than that?

[Hicks_206 (DayZ) 4297]

Edit: source

 

3PP to be removed from future builds of the game?

 

 

:D

Clearly this is a bit of banter. 3PP is going nowhere, but it is good to see the devs hold 1PP playstyle in such high regard, hopefully meaning that they will start to look at solving some of the problems associated with that viewpoint.

 

 

Please refrain from trying to stir up a mob. I gave my personal opinion on play experience, nothing more.

We will not be removing 3PP, and I disagree strongly with trying to force folks of other play styles to conform. We offer servers for both camera modes.

[boneboys 7988]

People may believe that this topic content / proposition has no value and is troll, or OP has less than zero understanding of the English language, both assumptions are incorrect.

The edited OP states...

"Clearly this is a bit of banter. 3PP is going nowhere, but it is good to see the devs hold 1PP playstyle in such high regard, hopefully meaning that they will start to look at solving some of the problems associated with that viewpoint."

 

It is in fact an appreciation,,,,

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