are duping and hack issues fixed ?

[liquidcactus 719]

neeevverrrr !!

[ChainReactor 922]

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How would it affect a hacker anyway when you simply let him spawn fresh, what the wipe did to every player?

 

Also, status report:

 

 

Purge of the stable branch hive

• The intent here is to purge existing large volume magazines and legacy items from the economy

 

It was the one and only reason for the wipe.

 

http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/211071-status-report-week-of-15-sept-14/

[danceswithzeds 22]

How would it affect a hacker anyway when you simply let him spawn fresh, what the wipe did to every player?

 

Also, status report:

 

 

It was the one and only reason for the wipe.

 

http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/211071-status-report-week-of-15-sept-14/

Then what a really bad move it was to wipe the entire world just to delete hacked magazines in my opinion.

It's a very weak and desperate move to address hacking without actually trying to prevent paid hacks from being so easy to use in the first place. I simply don't understand why they bothered to wipe. I guess this is why I don't make games for a living. I would quickly be fired form the team for wanting to first prevent paid hacks from being so prevalent before punishing all the people who only purchase one copy of the game.

Guess I'm insane.

[ChainReactor 922]

Guess I'm insane.

 

Nah, you only seem to think to easy on this subject. From the very same status report i've just linked you to:

 

 

Individuals focused on identifying, and exploiting vulnerabilities during the development process -will- find holes. No amount of closed testing within a time scale that allows us to update the primary branch with reliable frequency, and keep to our target of a two to three year development cycle will stop this. However, Early Access does offer us an unparalleled opportunity to identify, and address potential vulnerabilities with how DayZ functions prior to the 1.0 that traditionally we would never have.

 

The devs constantly fix hacks. Unfortunately, the idiots trying to ruin the game come up with something new quite often. There will  be holes that can be exploitet as long as major changes to the code of the game are made. Anti cheat measurements are an ongoing development process and the devs already fixed much. Keep in mind that they dont fight symptoms but the actual cause. That being said, if you see someone teleporting that doesnt mean the devs didnt do anything against it, its just that someone found a new way to do it.

[danceswithzeds 22]

OK. Thank your the kind explanation. Admins, you can delete my posts about the hacks as I just realized they are not really allowed to be discussed.

Chainreactor gave me a good handle on the current situation so I don't have any more questions about duping or hacking status.

[ValentinBk (DayZ) 60]

A hacker just dropped mine and my friend's gear, killed my friend with MY mosin and killed me with some shotgun he probably took off someone else. Fuck hackers right in the pussy.

Edited November 4, 2014 by ValentinBk

[Jex 1104]

I haven't played in a while myself, I'm curious if duping is still rampant?  I don't ever think it's gonna be gone, but their fixes make any impact or do you still find guys with boxes of grenades and other stuff?

 

Did the wipe at least put an end to infinite ammo mags?

 

If they can't fix duping then they might as well give up and I can't believe for a moment that it cannot be fixed. Do MMO's suffer from duping or any other game?

[Bororm 1156]

If they can't fix duping then they might as well give up and I can't believe for a moment that it cannot be fixed. Do MMO's suffer from duping or any other game?

 

Yes, they all do.  Even WoW suffers from duping.  Which is why I don't think it will ever be completely gone.  It's just the nature of the beast.

I don't think that's a reason to just give up though.  It's just something they need to monitor and actively police like hacking.  Hacking will never be gone either.  They can make it harder to do these things though, and easier to detect.

[Jex 1104]

Yes, they all do.  Even WoW suffers from duping.  Which is why I don't think it will ever be completely gone.  It's just the nature of the beast.

I don't think that's a reason to just give up though.  It's just something they need to monitor and actively police like hacking.  Hacking will never be gone either.  They can make it harder to do these things though, and easier to detect.

 

Oh that sucks. Surely with a central hive you could assign numbers to each item? Then if it dupes, it dupes the number as well and then deletes one of them. Duping makes the hive database almost redundant when they're talking about limiting items that will spawn. How many "rare" AS50's did everyone have in the mod? LOL sometimes we'd find a base and they'd have 20 of the things in their stash.

[scriptfactory 620]

Even WoW suffers from duping.

This is 100% not true. Duping is not possible in WoW.

[Mookie (original) 799]

This is 100% not true. Duping is not possible in WoW.

 

Agreed. Not possible (and simply doesn't happen) in many multiplayer games, precisely because, as previous poster mentioned, items have unique identifiers. It probably requires a lot more server capacity, but is certainly not the 'nature of the beast'. :huh:

[r.pitura@live.com.au 12]

No, we're just tired of people saying OMG HACK DO SOMETHING!

To answer his question, Hacking's never gonna go away, it might lessen somewhat, and become more difficult, but will never go away.  If you're gonna let hackers ruin your game they've won.  Private Shards are coming out, I'd say find one with a whitelist that you like so you can play with a lesser chance of hackers.

Funny you say that,it would nearly disappear if they changed anti cheats....

Most of the things that are being done would be banned as soon as you did it,with another anti cheat tool..

Ive even got a 3week ban just because i said this before...

I will give you this..

 

https://www.facebook.com/FairFightAntiCheat

And if you know anything bout who the providers are,there the big boys getting done..

[Accolyte 1727]

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Oh look it's another of the "use XYZ instead of battleye posts".

 

If fairfight protects APB then I'm, hardly impressed. The amount of hackers I seen there would almost put COD to shame.  :lol:

 

Anyway.. no matter how much protection you throw at any game, there will still be hackers. Thinking otherwise is delusional.

[anderswhk 23]

I have run across people that is blatantly hacking, and does not try to hide it a few times in the past few weeks. In all instances they have been using this hack that makes your character drop all gear on the ground. Personally I have not encountered any sort of speed hackers, no-clip or teleportation hacks, but I know they exist. ESP hacks like wallhack are difficult to spot in a game like DayZ.

Edited November 5, 2014 by anderswhk

[danceswithzeds 22]

Oh look it's another of the "use XYZ instead of battleye posts".

 

If fairfight protects APB then I'm, hardly impressed. The amount of hackers I seen there would almost put COD to shame.  :lol:

 

Anyway.. no matter how much protection you throw at any game, there will still be hackers. Thinking otherwise is delusional.

Let's speak honest as men to men. If you can't agree that the current Dayz stand alone has a much larger percentage of hacking going on than a typical game, then this can be seen as an insult to our intelligence. I personally feel that perhaps the hacking will be stopped in the beta or final release so I'm OK with the hacking we see now. But honestly, to sit here and tell us that the amount of hacking we see in Dayz is just normal, unavoidable levels?

I'm sorry, but with all due respect, that's really kind of insulting.

[PongoZ 127]

The hacking and duping I am seeing playing 70 hours in the last few weeks, compared to any point in the mod is 

zero.

 

really, there must be some improvement, that has not just happened. The devs are doing something.

[Accolyte 1727]

But honestly, to sit here and tell us that the amount of hacking we see in Dayz is just normal, unavoidable levels?

 

I think you should re-read my post.

 

I have around 2500-3000 hours played on DayZ and I've not met a single hacker. I can't really comment whether or not the hacker numbers are high. Lucky me, eh?

[danceswithzeds 22]

I think you should re-read my post.

 

I have around 2500-3000 hours played on DayZ and I've not met a single hacker. I can't really comment whether or not the hacker numbers are high. Lucky me, eh?

That's cool man.   I went back and re-read your post.   All I can see is that you are saying... "all games have hacking in them so what is the big deal?".   (not word for word but that's what I understand from your post)

 

I guess the rest of us have really bad luck.   Tons of people with less than 300 hours have reported many times seeing something you have not seen at all in 3000 hours?

How is this even possible?  You are lucky man.    I'm happy for you.

[freethink 984]

That's cool man.   I went back and re-read your post.   All I can see is that you are saying... "all games have hacking in them so what is the big deal?".   (not word for word but that's what I understand from your post)

 

I guess the rest of us have really bad luck.   Tons of people with less than 300 hours have reported many times seeing something you have not seen at all in 3000 hours?

How is this even possible?  You are lucky man.    I'm happy for you.

 

I've been banned from the forum and the steam forums for complaining about hacking but even I see great strides being taken. I actually stopped going to berezino or the nwaf in .49 because every time I died was from a hacker. It was at the stage where outside of experimental I cannot remember the last time I was killed by a non-hacker. Tonight was my first time back in berezino in weeks and despite it being a high pop and plenty of people there I didn't see any hackers. No doubt they'll be back but I appreciate the devs efforts. Credit where credit is due.

Edited November 6, 2014 by freethink

[r.pitura@live.com.au 12]

I think you should re-read my post.

 

I have around 2500-3000 hours played on DayZ and I've not met a single hacker. I can't really comment whether or not the hacker numbers are high. Lucky me, eh?

Why does it come across as people bashing others,i cant for the life of me work that out tbh...

Also seeing how you have seen very little or in numbers of hackers,thats not what Sable is saying....

So who is telling porkies?

It really doesn't matter tbh,and your talking of the coding aspect,maybe you want to look into Gameblocks before the do the very same thing you are accusing others of...

Because they have been a very good fit with the Battlefield game to the point if you read the posts,mind you those posts come straight from the paid subs part...

So its not bs,go take a look and see..

I can tell you now that most are scared of Gameblocks because the way it works not so anticheat that needs to be constantly updated....

[anderswhk 23]

Let's speak honest as men to men. If you can't agree that the current Dayz stand alone has a much larger percentage of hacking going on than a typical game, then this can be seen as an insult to our intelligence. I personally feel that perhaps the hacking will be stopped in the beta or final release so I'm OK with the hacking we see now. But honestly, to sit here and tell us that the amount of hacking we see in Dayz is just normal, unavoidable levels?

I'm sorry, but with all due respect, that's really kind of insulting.

 

Honestly, I have played aloooot of multiplayer games the past 20 years. The hacking in DayZ is not worse than many other games, especially free to play games with much smaller budgets and a joke of an anti cheat client. There is hacking going on in this game, but it is not as bad as people make it out to be.

[Accolyte 1727]

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I actually have no idea what you're trying to say, sorry.

 

Where am I accusing anyone of anything at all? I merely described my own experiences unlike people who will just go ahead and say "raaaaaa, dis and dat is garbage, they should change it to dis" or whatnot.

[r.pitura@live.com.au 12]

Oh look it's another of the "use XYZ instead of battleye posts".

 

If fairfight protects APB then I'm, hardly impressed. The amount of hackers I seen there would almost put COD to shame.  :lol:

 

Anyway.. no matter how much protection you throw at any game, there will still be hackers. Thinking otherwise is delusional.

Did you not say this?

Have you even played bf4?

Where mind you the devs have full control of the settings in game?

Where im sorry but unlike anticheats who would fully understand the game..Sad to say only the devs would,not a anticheat,im hearing why..

Its because of the way the engine works,instead of bagging it like i said go take a look at it..

This is why like i said its a massive step in the right direction not the wrong one...

As to the comment of if fairfight protects APB,you fully miss understand the anti cheat to begin with...

Ask the Devs about inside the game world conditions,how everything is measured..

Then talk tbh..because you fully misunderstand the thing or fairfight in the first place..

 

I will give you a example....

If it takes you say 15mins to run from 1side of the map to the other and it cant be done any other way..

And you did it in say 5mins,bam you would be notified that your account is under investigation,maybe leading to a week suspension...

Even leading to a full ban,how is it so,because of numbers plain and simple you cant manipulate them period...

Same as the inside of buildings,it would be classed as a out of bounds area,bam kicked from the server...

Would you like me to go on?

Because the inside of building has been a glitch from the early days of the mod,and is or was only just fixed.

So one can only understand why players are mad because of this issue...

Same goes for taking players equipment would never happen with game blocks,the early dayz of game blocks was bad because people didn't know how to set it up but the BFdevs have done a very good job because of there inside knowledge of how the game works...

As to being delusional,im not i know that hackers will always be part of the game period,but what they can or would be allowed to do in game would be very minimal if there was a change or setting with Gameblocks because of the way it works.

And if you look at the comments on there face book page from the quotes they have got from paid sub areas you would see the exact point im making.... 

 

Oh on a last note,im very keen for YOU to explain to me how if the files for buildings where part of the checksum,how players where running THROUGH them...

Im waiting to see this response tbh..

Edited November 6, 2014 by Crackitler