Experimental Branch: 0.49 Discussion

[Tatanko 5591]

This still amazes me when I hear people about this bug, in 550 hours of playing I never once had a problem on stairs or ladders. (except for rubberbanding or server crashing at the wrong moment).

Me either. Yet my buddy had it happen to him TWICE in less than 10 minutes last night on the same server. The first time was the shipwreck, and it killed him... the second was a warehouse or something and he made it out alive but with a broken leg.

[☣BioHaze☣ 7337]

Brian said in the dev stream that they know why that zed and doors thing is happening. It's related how you need to sometimes try to open the door couple of times.

 

It's a discrepancy between the state the server thinks the door is in and what state the client thinks the door is in.

 

Zed's believe the server side state to be true so they might walk through seemingly closed doors or stop at seemingly open doors.

 

Vent: I wish people who contributed to this thread would follow and read the entire thread so we don't keep repeating the same bugs/reports.

 

If you followed the thread closely like I do, you would find this disjointed "conversation" pointlessly repetitive.

 

To the guy who KoS'd me as I was about to bandage, you could of EASILY robbed me or simply asked for my stuff if that's what you wanted. Otherwise, I hope the murder of a 75% dead bleeding man holding a bandage with very little gear of value was satisfying.

[Sharplooter 98]

So did you snipe those people? Or did you let them live?

 

I didn't shoot, only observed them for a few seconds, but then one of them was looking/aiming (probably with a scope rifle) in my direction so I ran again and vanished in the woodland, hehe. I was just glad that I survived with my new helmet from the NWAF :D

[doctajones 123]

Thanks for that hint mate, but I already tried that. After everything else did not work I went and started an imgur-account just for this four rabbit-hunting-pics. To no avail, though. This [*img]...[*/img]-thing i googled -> didn´t work. The "image"-button in this forums posting-window (or how you call it) -> didn´t work. Opening with other programs and copy-pasting it here -> didn´t work. I really start to question my general ability to work a pc... :o  :huh:

Please someone tell me that it´s a bug which is NOT happening between my ears! PLZ!!

 

Anyway, I´m off to work now. If someone might post any suggestions to help me with my plight, I will thankfully monitor them from work (don´t tell them!!!) and try to make it happen tonight!

you have to make sure you are using a .jpg url to show the picture.  In terms of the image tags, you just need to take out the * and they are correct. 

[Dennus (DayZ) 123]

quick nub question since I cant find ny info and tested to see nothing return after a restart?

 

 

is persistence up on 0.49 exp?

Well, I hid a green mountain backpack in the forest. Logged out and back in, it was still there, but then the server crashed and when I logged back in it was gone.

So the answer is "maybe" or "sometimes".

[Sharplooter 98]

Persistence don't work at all even my tent was gone after a restart, I was nearby and could check it. Leaving a backpack log out and back in (without server restarts) is normal since many months/builds, but I wouldn't call that really persistence.    

Edited September 16, 2014 by Sharplooter

[Krasiv 0]

How is working experimental? Are you guys meaning that it may go stable tomorrow?

[Tatanko 5591]

How is working experimental? Are you guys meaning that it may go stable tomorrow?

The current build could go to stable tomorrow and be fine, honestly. It's "good enough". If they can squash a few more bugs (like the door issues) before releasing it to stable, all the better. 0.49 is very refreshing from a survival standpoint.

[SmashT 10907]

How is working experimental? Are you guys meaning that it may go stable tomorrow?

They hope that will be the case, will most likely involve an extended maintenance if so. If this update hits tomorrow , database will be wiped.

[☣BioHaze☣ 7337]

Either I have bad timing logging into servers about to restart or the server DC issue is not completely ironed out.

 

Yesterday I was murdered on East - 01 and logging in an entire day later I still got a 30 second respawn timer.

 

Though melee is improved I have noticed that swinging my fire axe head-on at zeds is completely missing and you HAVE to get to either side of them or behind them to land a hit.

 

After my first server reset/DC I logged into a server I had not been on in a few a days and the hive spat out a character I thought had been glitch wiped.

 

Funny enough, the building I spawned into had the morphine, ammo, and food I needed.

[Sharplooter 98]

Seriously I can't understand why suddenly almost no one (except a few ppl) care about persistence and why devs wanna push 0.49 to stable? This build works like the builds months ago -> no persistence at all. This is in fact a huge setback from 0.48...

 

If I am honest I don't care every (new) survival feature in DayZ any longer when persistence don't work. Without persistence Dayz become completly useless for me and nothing else than a more complex CoD. When you are good with gear/op, lets go to a shootout, because nothing else to do... this is so stupidly and shallow-brained boring after that many months.

 

Why can't we have persistence at least for tents and backpacks (except ruined ones) on an interim basis? That would be a good compromise, if persistence for everything is failed for now.

 

Edit: I divine something, devs probably can't fix duping atm if backpacks are persistent? Ok then plz give us the ability to make stashes like in the Mod... at least the shovel would have finally any sense in this game...

Edited September 16, 2014 by Sharplooter

[SmashT 10907]

Seriously I can't understand why suddenly almost no one (except a few ppl) care about persistence and why devs wanna push 0.49 to stable? This build works like the builds months ago -> no persistence at all. This is in fact a huge setback from 0.48...

Persistence is just turned off so they can isolate other issues... I dunno why you would assume they would push to stable without it.

[Sharplooter 98]

Good question... probably because there was a big hush about persistence since the last fixes. Didn't read any (official) explanation or comment why the persistence were gone suddenly. But sorry if I was overhasty.

Edited September 16, 2014 by Sharplooter

[ebrim 998]

My current exp avatar makes me wonder if they'll make it so the Obrez can go into the chest holster one day. I can see really no reason that the build we have now couldn't go stable. One little odd thing I've noticed, which may or may not be WAD, the blue tracksuit seems to operate as a raincoat.

[basinox 300]

Just a tip: there are 3 crashes the team wants to fix before pushing this to stable

[Sharplooter 98]

Would be a bit weird if 0.49 EXP gets tested only without persistence and the 0.49 stable comes suddenly with persistence. My mind tells me -> lets test 0.49 EXP also at least one day with persistence before pushing it to stable. I am so wrong? 

Edited September 16, 2014 by Sharplooter

[DiMeNsloNs 8]

 I hope they go ahead and push to stable. I like everyone not fully geared. I find a lot more friends when everyone you meet only has a few good items. Maybe it will turn into a survival game after all !

[Sharplooter 98]

Hope dies last^^

[ChainReactor 922]

Didn't read any (official) explanation or comment why the persistence were gone suddenly.

 

 

There you go: http://www.reddit.com/r/dayz/comments/2gifdz/persistent_loot_not_working_on_experimental/

[Haviland 58]

Today I was able to get my hands on a "real" rabbit for the first time. Not the ones that are like a moving part of the forest texture and can only be seen by you and not your friends, but a real little entity. And a pretty damn quick one, be assured! :) Was a really nice experience hunting down that little fella. After spotting him first, which is a mayor task to begin with, because of his tiny size he almost completely vanishes in the grass, I lost sight of him when he dashed into some bushes. Took me nearly 10min of sneaking around before finding him again. Really looking forward to the implementing of the rabbit snare trap, that should make getting rabbit leg for dinner much easier.  ;)

 

I can´t really remember seeing to much pictures of these yet, so I thought I might share some with you.

 

[ten minutes of rustling and heavy swearing]

........ Ok, sorry. For some freaking reason I´m not capable of posting pictures here, all I get is:

 

"An error occurred

You are not allowed to use that image extension on this community."

 

Perhaps I´ll give it another try in the evening...

 

 

Get GIMP 2 ; ( Free program )

 

http://www.gimp.org/

 

Open the image, and export it as .JPG....Done.

 

 

You simply tried to embed a wrong file format in your post, perhaps .bmp? Dump your screenshot into MSPaint and save it as .jpg and you should be fine.

 

 

you have to make sure you are using a .jpg url to show the picture.  In terms of the image tags, you just need to take out the * and they are correct. 

 

 

Thanks guys! I appreciate that you took the time to answer a question which most likely makes 92.4% of seasoned forum-users go F9! (or what was the default key for facepalm again?)

 

You have my BeanZ! ... or better "Hier habta lecka Bohnen!" as ´ze germanz´ use to say. ;)

 

So please find below the puny rabbit-hunting-collage I made all the fuss about:

 

 

 

 

Edit: Success!!  :D  Both for the hunting and the posting...  ;)

Edited September 17, 2014 by Haviland

[R0B3RTF1SH3R 66]

Well, I hid a green mountain backpack in the forest. Logged out and back in, it was still there, but then the server crashed and when I logged back in it was gone.

So the answer is "maybe" or "sometimes".

thats not persistence. 

 

Persistence is "beyond restart"

 

and yes it does work.

left junk lying everywhere.

after restarts or server crashes. exactly same loot

[Sharplooter 98]

 

and yes it does work.

left junk lying everywhere.

after restarts or server crashes. exactly same loot

 

Nope on SWE Servers, again I left my hunter backpack in the trees, again it was gone after restart (I stayed the whole time there till restart and came back immediatly -> stealing 101% impossible). People better don't rely on this...

Edited September 17, 2014 by Sharplooter

[Super_Duty 466]

I've come to the conclusion that it's genetics.  Some people apparently are missing the walk up/down stairs chromosome much like some people can't walk and chew bubble gum or pat their heads and rub their bellies at the same time... imho of course. :P

 

This still amazes me when I hear people about this bug, in 550 hours of playing I never once had a problem on stairs or ladders. (except for rubberbanding or server crashing at the wrong moment).

 

 

Ladders used to be a big issue when DayZ first dropped, admittedly they're a lot better now. But as an example, the ladders on the building next to Vybor Smoke Stack/Chimney always injure my character when I reach the top. Weirdly, after testing this with friends only last week, only some of us were effected, some weren't. We all walked up to the base of the ladder, scrollwheeled to climb and just pressed "W" to climb to the top. Every time a couple of the guys and myself reach the top, our screen flicks white for a split second and multiple times, pants have been damaged and/or ruined :wacko: It's very strange.

 

As for stairs, well they seem to frickin hate me. Twice dead in Novo clock tower, casually walking up and "Your Leg Is In Pain"...... "You Are Dead". 2 times instantaneous death on steps in construction sites and one death just walking close to a construction site (I wasn't even IN the site), and one broken leg in a school on the stairs in 0.49 Exp.

I've tried walking, weapon in hand, empty hands, jogging, sprinting, crouch walking....... e.t.c.. They just hate me :(

 

 

Me either. Yet my buddy had it happen to him TWICE in less than 10 minutes last night on the same server. The first time was the shipwreck, and it killed him... the second was a warehouse or something and he made it out alive but with a broken leg.

 

[renigade 50]

Persistence is just turned off so they can isolate other issues... I dunno why you would assume they would push to stable without it.

cheers

[Tatanko 5591]

So please find below the puny rabbit-hunting-collage I made all the fuss about

Congrats on the successful hunt! I hope to join the club someday soon :)

 

 

I am really, really satisfied with 0.49 as it sits. I mean sure it's far from perfect as all versions up to this point have been, but as far as all the builds of 0.49 have been, 124959 has been the best. Once they flip the switch and turn persistence back on again, it will feel much more survival-ey. I saw the absolute worst of the environment try and take me down over the course of testing the different 0.49 builds: temperature, hunger, zombies, physics, and many of my human beings. It's been fun  :D

 

Here I am tonight enjoying what I hope to be the last hours of this build on experimental with a friend, in a barn, in the middle of a field... in the middle of nowhere, in a thunderstorm, in a highly populated server. Just two friends, enjoying some warm cans of peaches over the dueling fires. Cheers!

 

 

 

Edited September 17, 2014 by Tatanko