Has a Helmet ever saved your life?

[Xbow 362]

I have no idea how much motorcycle helmet and construction hard hat helmet 'really' protects a player from impact damage but I do believe that without a good motorcycle or hard hat helmet a single zombie or axe hit to your skull can be a ticket to the coast. I don't know where to find the exact data on a zombie hit to the head so I will use the values for the splitting and Firefighters axe.

 

The Bible says that Pristine Motorcycle helmet has a resistance against shock of  7000

The Bible says that Pristine Hard hat helmet has a resistance against shock of 5000

The Bible says that Pristine Ballistic helmet has a resistance against shock of ZERO (This is hard to believe)

 

Damage delivery by: 

 

Splitting Axe  Shock (Head) 5000 

Firefighters Axe Shock (Head) 10000

Zombie Attack >=5000 if directed at the head?

 

**Does anyone know the actual amounts of shock damage Zombie double Maul and flying Attack do?**

 

My assumption is that either of the two zombie attack types can deliver >= 5000 points of shock damage (your maximum blood level) which will render an unprotected player unconscious or dead instantly.

 

A healthy player has a natural defense of 5000 vs shock 

A pristine motorcycle helmet can absorb 7000 points of shock damage

A pristine Hard Hat helmet can absorb 5000 points of shock damage

A pristine Ballistic helmet can absorb ZERO points of shock damage 

 

So based on what I know (which isn't much) a healthy player can:

 

•With a Current Blood Level of 5000 and  wearing a pristine motorcycle helmet (7000 armor points) can take a Firefighters Axe hit to the head of 10000 and remain conscious. Two hits lights out,

 

•With a Current Blood Level of 5000 and  wearing a pristine motorcycle helmet (7000 armor points) can take a Splitting Axe hit to the head of 5000 and remain conscious. But 3 hits to the grape means lights out.

 

•With a Current Blood Level of 5000 and  wearing a pristine Hard Hat helmet (5000 armor points) a Firefighters Axe hit to the head of 10000 will render the player unconscious with one hit.

 

•With a Current Blood Level of 5000 and  wearing a pristine Hard Hat helmet (5000 armor points) can take one Splitting Axe hit to the head of 5000 and remain conscious. but the second hit to the head means lights out.

 

•With a Current Blood Level of 5000 and  wearing a pristine Ballistic helmet ZERO (shock) armor points can not take a hit to the head with either the splitting or Firefighters axe to the head and remain conscious.

 

A good way to almost guarantee taking a maul or lunge attack to the head is to take it while kneeling. My proof is that in the last two days I have had two Pristine motorcycle helmets ruined with single hits and taken damage that removed the healthy status of the character. In neither case was I bleeding and in both cases I had not been hit previously and was Healthy, Hydrated and Energized. In both cases I had underestimated the distance a zombie will now chase you and I had stupidly knelt to drink in one case and mess with my inventory in the other. 

 

So I am not saying my assumptions are accurate but rather I am looking to see what some of you guys have experienced and know about defense against melee head hits delivered by zombies on a side note WOBO says that two punches to the unprotected head can knock a healthy player out. 

 

The obvious remedy, If you get belted in the head hard enough to ruin your motorcycle or hard hat helmet and significantly degrade your health the immediate prescription is  an injection of Epi that you can self administer to completely restore your ability to take shock damage instantly and find a new helmet ASAP..   

Edited August 8, 2014 by Xbow

[pilgrim* 3514]

I was sniped in the back of the head, one shot, while drinking (a number of patches ago) and suffered zero damage, but my mil. helmet went from pristine to ruined. There are mil. helmet and motorbike helmet tests on youtube.

[blacklabel79 949]

I think ONCE. As pilgrim described.

Also got saved by Press vest several times now. Too bad one cant repair them.

Edited August 8, 2014 by {Core}BlackLabel

[Khanarac 252]

The Bible says that Pristine Ballistic helmet has a resistance against shock of ZERO (This is hard to believe)

 

Bible? Anyway, thats true, but if you meant "unauthentic" then I agree. Other than that I never use any helmet. But I witnessed several people just being unconscious after a mosin headshot. The ballistic helmet saved them. It still did not help, because you can tell by the position a body is laying on the ground if he is unconscious or dead, so we shot him again in the head.

Edited August 8, 2014 by Khanarac

[rybo 171]

Once took a Mosin round to my Kevlar. I was KO'd for about 30 seconds before I got up with a fountain pouring out of my head. I bandaged and survived..

[King Raptor 191]

I made someone I play with wear a helmet and he got shot in the head not soon after. Actually, it was right outside of the loot spot we found the helmet.

He survived. Helmet was trashed.

 

He is forever in my depth. Will name his firstborn after me.

[Krawallkurt 118]

 Yes ...got hit went form Healty to Zero and back in about 2 min. Helm went from Pristine to Ruined.  But that only works with long range snipers. A guy with a M4 or an AKM will put so many Bullets in ur direction that you will die anyway.So as protection against Mosin Headshots it's ok. 

[nettles 396]

I've never been a firm believer in wearing cumbersome headgear. I'm a baseball cap type.  But the one time I wore a ballistic helmet I took a 7.62x39 to the noodle and lived to tell the tale.  

 

scoot scoot.

[Xbow 362]

The Bible says that Pristine Ballistic helmet has a resistance against shock of ZERO (This is hard to believe)

 

Bible? Anyway, thats true, but if you meant "unauthentic" then I agree. Other than that I never use any helmet. But I witnessed several people just being unconscious after a mosin headshot. The ballistic helmet saved them. It still did not help, because you can tell by the position a body is laying on the ground if he is unconscious or dead, so we shot him again in the head.

Can you come up with a better 'bible' than this unofficial one?  http://dayz.gamepedia.com/DayZ_Standalone_Wiki if so please divulge your source. I don't think there is an official bible. So we will have to subsist on unofficial sources. someone says that there is a helmet  test on youtube that includes impact and ballistic damage to all types of helmets but I haven't found it. 

 

Onward....... How many of you folks think that in RL a Kevlar Helmet doesn't protect its user against shock damage? I for one do not believe that bullshit. As an 1812 (19k) I have seen many, many accidents down at the tank park on field ops and RW ops  that Involve a human head and an object of some sort. Example: a 120mm gun tube. People walk into gun tubes all the time when the tube is dipped over the side to drain fluid out of the tube after being punched. People sometimes don't see it and walk into it even if you have a red rag hanging from the Muzzle. The guy without a Kevlar, tankers Helmet, or Hard Hat will often be on the ground and knocked silly and will soon be on his way to sick bay to be checked out for a concussion but a guy with head protection suffers Zero damage.

 

Take a look at the pads in this current Kevlar helmet.. the idea that the do they do Nothing to absorb shock damage is absurd. A good Kevlar helmet can stop a 9mm bullet at close range (The helmet is ruined). A 9 mm bullet is packing appx 400foot pounds of energy (equal to a solid punch in power but delivered onto a tiny area compared to a fist). Hit location is everything hence many people wearing Kevlar that are hit in the helmet by projectiles or objects are not knocked unconscious or even seriously unbalanced (but may suffer whiplash). But then again some are seriously KO'd or killed. 

   

 

Take your best punch at a 1970s vintage well padded East German steel helmet and see if your hand is still intact and what effect your punch had on the target.   

Edited August 8, 2014 by Xbow

[Exorade 214]

My friend got shot in the head and he survived with a ballistic helmet.

I've noticed a pristine motorycle helmet turning to badly damaged after a few zombie attacks.

 

Mainly I just wear it to discourage freshspawn who'd otherwise try to attack me with fists.

[King Raptor 191]

 

The obvious remedy, If you get belted in the head hard enough to ruin your motorcycle or hard hat helmet and significantly degrade your health the immediate prescription is  an injection of Epi that you can self administer to completely restore your ability to take shock damage instantly and find a new helmet ASAP..   

Does injecting epinephrine restore all shock "health"?

[nettles 396]

Does injecting epinephrine restore all shock "health"?

 

Supposedly it reverts your shock back to 0.  I dare you to try it with the defib.

[q.S Sachiel 470]

 

*snip helmets snip*

 

open palm that shit.  Closed fist is really only going to work on flesh.  Like you said with the whiplash, if you're going to want to hurt someone in that you're going to target the joints, so push that head to the side/backwards in as violently and fast as you can and you've got a crawler.

 

tbh i'd reckon the splitting axe would do more damage (or would hit more consistantly) blunt vs sharp on shaped armor... i'd take blunt every time.  That's roughly 3kg at the head and however much in the handle plus the weight and torque you put into the swing... impulse be damned, your head is going to move out of the way with some force.

 

At the end of the day it's a gamey mechanism so it doesn't really matter what does what, but i like where you're going with the stats part, informative and enjoyable.

[Rudette 435]

A pristine motorcycle helmet once saved me from a sniper in Berezino.

I was shot while crossing the fields on my way out, foolishly exposed route really. EShot me in the head, put me unconscious.

I was too far away for a double tap, they thought I was dead, or just got distracted by another target---whatever the case I got back up a few seconds later and ran as fast and far as I could.

Edited August 8, 2014 by Rudette

[Xbow 362]

My friend got shot in the head and he survived with a ballistic helmet.

I've noticed a pristine motorycle helmet turning to badly damaged after a few zombie attacks.

 

!!!!Mainly I just wear it to discourage freshspawn who'd otherwise try to attack me with fists.!!!

Ain't that the truth!! I never used to wear a helmet and the biggest reason I wear one is chair jumping surprise Zombie attacks but freshspawns can be some stupid mothers. they get close, throw up their hands and I gun them down without mercy. On the other hand If they say they need help and its safe to give it I do, a Machete some chow whatever as long as they keep their distance. As a rule I stay away from other players as much as possible as it seems as if the ratio of regular Joe's to assholes is about 1 regular Joe to five assholes.    

 

Another Question:

 

Should the developers assign new statistics to the Ballistic Helmets to give them the same resistance to shock that a Hard Hat has (5000)?

 

I vote YES because a Kevlar Helmet has a vastly tougher outer hide and at the very least an equal shock absorption system.

Edited August 8, 2014 by Xbow

[mustamakkara 5]

I once got shot to the head in berenzino, it was AKM, and it knocked me out and made me bleed.

[sloasdaylight 129]

I killed my buddy with a point blank shot with a mosin directly through his ballistic helmet. (We were doing a bunch of testing)

[q.S Sachiel 470]

tbh tho helmet hasn't saved my life that i can see.  Got 1shotted by mosin when i doubt i was showing much of anything else...

worn motorcycle helmet plenty of times just to be harassed by knife/scythe wielding maniacs as they cut into my hands and feet.

can't say that it's happened to me but i've seen some hoxton magic hillarious stuff on youtube to warrant wearing the bucket.

[Rudette 435]

I would like to add one more thing here!

>.>

Even though the helmet has saved me in one fringe case where someone didn't come closer to finish my off while I was unconscious, it may be better to wear something smaller and less obstructive to minimize your chance of being seen. Or just for aesthetics!

That is, if you're a lone wolf!

Edited August 8, 2014 by Rudette

[Tatanko 5591]

I have been saved from a bullet to the head by a ballistic helmet on at least one occasion, possibly two. Everyone in my unit would probably tell you the same.

Edited August 8, 2014 by Tatanko

[tuthmes 49]

I learned the hard way that a ballistic helmet wont stop a newbie's fist from knocking me the "F" out........

 

(should of shot that little turd.....)

 

lesson learned ;)

[sloasdaylight 129]

I would like to add one more thing here!

>.>

Even though the helmet has saved me in one fringe case where someone didn't come closer to finish my off while I was unconscious, it may be better to wear something smaller and less obstructive to minimize your chance of being seen. Or just for aesthetics!

That is, if you're a lone wolf!

I wear boonies exclusively unless I'm actively engaging in an assault. Seeing as how I'm a sniper most of the time though, I don't bother with carrying a Tac helmet, and will just borrow one from a group mate if I'm gonna be in the thick of it.

Edited August 8, 2014 by sloasdaylight

[non-orthodox 27]

If you are a lone wolf or hero, doesn't matter. You can get knocked out unconscious, instead of straight away dying, but the second bullet always come.

 

And I also found people to be cooler if I am not wearing one. In fact, if you don't own a mosin or camo clothing, people are generally friendlier.

[trev186 389]

Pretty sure the ballistic helmet protects as well as the motorbike helmet only if you are hit in the helmet.

Ballistic helmet covers lss of your head/face than the motorbike helmet....

So motorbike helmet is better for all around protection

[aasand 92]

Yes, ballistic helmet did at least protect me a few patches back. Me and a friend was prone with long range mosin on sniper hill behind Balota airfield. I had just checked my helmet because I switched it out with a pristine one just few min back. Two guys shows up to raid the barracks and as the d**** we are sometimes we decided to just snipe them (350m or so). We both suck at aiming and rangefinding so they went prone and fired back (mosin i belive). Suddenly I hear a whine,flash and my screen shakes."Shots!" I yell. "Did yo get hit?" my buddy asks. "I think so" I reply and I crawl back and check my status. All is fine but my ballistic helmet was now ruined. I took a direct hit to the head and not a scratch besides ruined helmet.

 

Later on that day I took another another few shots of sks to my ctactical vest, survived, found a new pristine one to yet again get shot up without ever starting to bleed or loose health that day. Those things save lives!! Ended up breaking my legs and die the next day in Berenzino cafe'.

Edited August 8, 2014 by aasand