Does the game become worse every update?

[Bearserk 57]

I bought the SA like, 9 months ago now? I used to find it a really amusing game. Most things worked fine, I could gear up and go interact with other players.

Today I logged in again to see how it has changes and it just was completely unplayable for me.

Apparantly there are a whole lot of new spawns up north or in the general middle of nowhere, but the loot you want STILL is only at airports or cities like elektro. I don't want seventeen raincoats and a rotten tomato, I want something that helps me survive.

After a few tries I spawned in Solnichniy and I was like "Hey I know this place, now I can go to Elektro." Some moments after leaving Solnichniy I had three zombies chasing me. I couldn't even loot random houses along the way becauses zombies just don't stop at anything. I finally reached Elektro and rushed in the school building to find something to kill the zombies with. By now the zombies stalking me had found allies and I was being hunted down by six or seven of them. I found a pickaxe and thought "It used to be doable to get rid of zombies with an axe to the head, I'm sure this will work." I ran out on the street to try and take down the zombies one by one. I wasn't able to get a single hit in while they were able to hit me from all over the place, even when I kept running away from where they were striking.

I ran away from the fight into a random building, and sure enough, all seven zombies followed me. They crammed up the doorway so I couldn't get out, and then I died.

 

Zombies used to be reasonably normal, what happened to them that they are now completely impossible to deal with without guns?

[LeeVanSpliff 156]

Today I logged in again to see how it has changes and it just was completely unplayable for me.

Apparantly there are a whole lot of new spawns up north or in the general middle of nowhere, but the loot you want STILL is only at airports or cities like elektro.

Actually, they did put in a lot of police stations ... I believe it was to spread the loot out more.

 

I don't want seventeen raincoats and a rotten tomato, I want something that helps me survive.

After a few tries I spawned in Solnichniy and I was like "Hey I know this place, now I can go to Elektro." Some moments after leaving Solnichniy I had three zombies chasing me. I couldn't even loot random houses along the way becauses zombies just don't stop at anything.

Like in the mod and previous versions, running through bushes help. Try looking at the zombies as they follow you - they sometimes stop, stand around for a bit like idiots. Then they spot you again and keep running. If you're not visible when they stop, they will just keep standing around.

Another trick is to get them to suicide down a hill. Also worked in the mod iirc.

 

I ran out on the street to try and take down the zombies one by one. I wasn't able to get a single hit in while they were able to hit me from all over the place, even when I kept running away from where they were striking.

Yeah it sucks atm. It's in the patch notes as a known issue, so hopefully it's being worked on. You can still kill zombies in melee, just sidestep and aim for their legs. [edit: and keep trying. Mostly takes me at least a couple of swings to get a hit.]

Edited August 7, 2014 by LeeVanSpliff

[Bigbadchuck 97]

Up north is where it's at. Just head to the clock tower in the big city up there. All the good loot you can stand. Make sure to pick up that MP5 that's on the floor as soon as you open the back door. Just don't pay any attention to the 3rd floor of the building behind you. And AK 101's spawn in the trunk of police cars in my line of sight too, er, I mean there's tons if loot! Yes cone up north for loots! I swear tgere are no snipers at all

[twinturbonet (DayZ) 294]

With the zombies, you can also run them in a circle and they won't hit you.  However, the hit box on your melee weapon is all screwed up. 

 

I know it sounds or feels like the game has gotten worse, but it hasn't.  You just have to get used to it and figure out the tricks behind certain things.  Once you do, you'll come to peace with it :)

[d0pesen 17]

@Bearserk

 

you need to understand that with every implemention of a new feature (especially in a existing engine) new "problems" or not working mechanics can occur.

 

for example the melee, the "problems" first occure with implemention of navmesh for pathfinding.

 

so in short view, the game becomes worst, but longhanded if the new implemented mechanics are finalized and working like awaited, then the game make huge steps forward.

 

2 steps backward with every implemention (that is the alpha phase), getting it worked (the beta phase), 3 steps forward. ;)

Edited August 7, 2014 by d0pesen

[blacklabel79 949]

Zombies used to be reasonably normal, what happened to them that they are now completely impossible to deal with without guns?

It will be alot more interesting to Play.

Also..its not a game yet...ist a Alpha Version of some Kind of Software that MIGHT mature into a rather splendid gaming experience.

[Act III 50]

TL;DR

 

"I got pwned running south"

[chepaco3290 59]

I bought the SA like, 9 months ago now? I used to find it a really amusing game. Most things worked fine, I could gear up and go interact with other players.

Today I logged in again to see how it has changes and it just was completely unplayable for me.

Apparantly there are a whole lot of new spawns up north or in the general middle of nowhere, but the loot you want STILL is only at airports or cities like elektro. I don't want seventeen raincoats and a rotten tomato, I want something that helps me survive.

After a few tries I spawned in Solnichniy and I was like "Hey I know this place, now I can go to Elektro." Some moments after leaving Solnichniy I had three zombies chasing me. I couldn't even loot random houses along the way becauses zombies just don't stop at anything. I finally reached Elektro and rushed in the school building to find something to kill the zombies with. By now the zombies stalking me had found allies and I was being hunted down by six or seven of them. I found a pickaxe and thought "It used to be doable to get rid of zombies with an axe to the head, I'm sure this will work." I ran out on the street to try and take down the zombies one by one. I wasn't able to get a single hit in while they were able to hit me from all over the place, even when I kept running away from where they were striking.

I ran away from the fight into a random building, and sure enough, all seven zombies followed me. They crammed up the doorway so I couldn't get out, and then I died.

 

Zombies used to be reasonably normal, what happened to them that they are now completely impossible to deal with without guns?

 

Just wait till you get the LMB bug. I’m fully geared at the moment, probably more than I’ve ever been in the past. Was looting Zelen when a couple zombies began to chase be, and that was when the LMB bug started. Happens to me EVERY TIME I play this game, usually an hour or so into the game. So I ran…and I ran…and I ran. Those zombies just do not give up the chase.

 

There are many game breaking bugs in this game ( I know, it Alpha, bla bla bla), but I would agree that it’s getting worse, not better. 

 

But as they say, the dark is just before the dawn. Let’s just hope that the dawn comes soon! J

Edited August 7, 2014 by Chepaco

[Jex 1104]

I haven't really played for about 3 months, logged in twice, in that time I can chop down trees, craft more items, zed pathfinding is better, server architecture is better, i can build a camp fire, hunt and eat animals so no, it's even more shit now than it was.

[bonesnap 75]

By strafing sideways, it's pretty hard to get hit by zombies. I killed nine in a row without getting hit once using a pickaxe, by circle strafing them. It's really not that hard.

 

Also, you are better off trying to kill them in an open area. Going into a confined area like a building to melee them is a bad idea.

[Evil Minion 943]

Short answer: No.

 

Long answer: I started to play in .44 and since then the game made huge progress. Less rubberbanding, improved zombie AI, weapons that utilize sway with minor dispersion instead of just significant dispersion, more ways to interact with your environment, more places to visit, more weapons to find (instead of M4s everywhere), more ways to deal with hunger, wild animals etc. Performance was not better back then - sometimes even worse and people weren't more friendly either.

[sloasdaylight 129]

I bought the SA like, 9 months ago now? I used to find it a really amusing game. Most things worked fine, I could gear up and go interact with other players.

Today I logged in again to see how it has changes and it just was completely unplayable for me.

Apparantly there are a whole lot of new spawns up north or in the general middle of nowhere, but the loot you want STILL is only at airports or cities like elektro. I don't want seventeen raincoats and a rotten tomato, I want something that helps me survive.

After a few tries I spawned in Solnichniy and I was like "Hey I know this place, now I can go to Elektro." Some moments after leaving Solnichniy I had three zombies chasing me. I couldn't even loot random houses along the way becauses zombies just don't stop at anything. I finally reached Elektro and rushed in the school building to find something to kill the zombies with. By now the zombies stalking me had found allies and I was being hunted down by six or seven of them. I found a pickaxe and thought "It used to be doable to get rid of zombies with an axe to the head, I'm sure this will work." I ran out on the street to try and take down the zombies one by one. I wasn't able to get a single hit in while they were able to hit me from all over the place, even when I kept running away from where they were striking.

I ran away from the fight into a random building, and sure enough, all seven zombies followed me. They crammed up the doorway so I couldn't get out, and then I died.

 

Zombies used to be reasonably normal, what happened to them that they are now completely impossible to deal with without guns?

 

Hit detection for melee is off right now.

 

As for being chased by zombies? Too damn bad. Zombies weren't even worth a second's consideration prior to this last update; now they'll bite your head off if you fart wrong. I love the new zombies (minus the hit detection).

 

I take it you didn't play the mod, eh?

[BadAsh (DayZ) 1513]

I take it you didn't play the mod, eh?

 

I figured the OP for an Epoch player. You know, only wanting "progress" to be addition of a million guns and vehicles, preferably where you spawn, and less zombies generally, and those which are in the game should pose no threat at all.

[bauertschi 254]

...for example the melee, the "problems" first occure with implemention of navmesh for pathfinding.

...

 

The devblog says that melee is messed up because they are moving it from being scripted into the main program. 0.48 has a placeholder, but you also got to get used to that.

 

AND NOT ONE person tells him that he can close zeds into houses now. Does not work with all houses, mostly the smaller ones. Run in, let the zed come in, run out, close the door fast enough, and remember if it works for the house. And move away fast, because the have long reach, also through walls.

 

NEVER start building trains of zeds that follow you!

[quantum2k6 348]

Dont play games you dont understand.. its an alpha... nothing more 2 say...

Edited August 7, 2014 by quantum2k6

[King Raptor 191]

Game is getting a little bit better each patch. You have to get excited by the small things otherwise you'll just grow depressed.

[Deathlove 2286]

I bought the SA like, 9 months ago now? I used to find it a really amusing game. Most things worked fine, I could gear up and go interact with other players.

Today I logged in again to see how it has changes and it just was completely unplayable for me.

Apparantly there are a whole lot of new spawns up north or in the general middle of nowhere, but the loot you want STILL is only at airports or cities like elektro. I don't want seventeen raincoats and a rotten tomato, I want something that helps me survive.

After a few tries I spawned in Solnichniy and I was like "Hey I know this place, now I can go to Elektro." Some moments after leaving Solnichniy I had three zombies chasing me. I couldn't even loot random houses along the way becauses zombies just don't stop at anything. I finally reached Elektro and rushed in the school building to find something to kill the zombies with. By now the zombies stalking me had found allies and I was being hunted down by six or seven of them. I found a pickaxe and thought "It used to be doable to get rid of zombies with an axe to the head, I'm sure this will work." I ran out on the street to try and take down the zombies one by one. I wasn't able to get a single hit in while they were able to hit me from all over the place, even when I kept running away from where they were striking.

I ran away from the fight into a random building, and sure enough, all seven zombies followed me. They crammed up the doorway so I couldn't get out, and then I died.

 

Zombies used to be reasonably normal, what happened to them that they are now completely impossible to deal with without guns?

The hit detection of infected is being revamped as is pretty much the entire melee combat. They plan on putting it in the test servers next Wed i think. But other than that the games been getting better and to be honest the infected should NEVER be reasonable to handle and you should have to fear for your life more than worrying about looting. Its still easy to kill them per say but the hit detection is off at the moment till it gets fixed. Anything less than an axe or machete does not cut it really.

 

As fare as content its getting better though they just need to keep tweaking the infected to get the desired effects everyone is hoping for in the long run. Just switch to experimental to see the progress they make each week on the game until a new stable version hits.

[blunce 991]

The short answer: The more that content is added, the more we will see new bugs.

[LeeVanSpliff 156]

The short answer: The more that content is added, the more we will see new bugs.

Somehow, I feel like I'm owed a long answer now!

[blunce 991]

Somehow, I feel like I'm owed a long answer now!

 

Well my friend, if I were to provide one, there's no telling how inaccurate or subjective it may be.

[frosti 2165]

Only positive updates so far I can quick think of:

 

- anti combat log timer

- anti ghost timer

- vomiting fix

- hunting

- pouring water from bottles, catching rain

 

PS.

 

And somehow .pbo exploit fix.

Edited August 7, 2014 by Frosti