mercules 1290 Posted July 14, 2014 holy hypothetical nonsense batman.. the guy chased me into a building, when i never even saw him, cause he was "protecting himself". Sure dude. i'll be the dick. and wear it like a friggin medal.Ehem... You are stating that rather than coming up behind you when we are in your area we should just shoot you. You see, our choices in game are:Avoid you and hope you don't catch sight of us. Since we saw you, we were likely heading to the same general area you are in presumably to look for items. Shoot you on sight. This is boring as hell and I can play a single player game and just shoot anything that might be vaguely a danger to me. Players are both more and less skilled than most game's AI. If I approached this from a strictly PVP game you would be dead.Talk to you and risk you being actively hostile. I tend to go with the first option. Second option gets done in certain areas and with certain folks who's actions already are actively hostile. I mean if you see someone camped out on a hill overlooking a common loot spot with a LRS... their intentions are not typically all that noble. If they are shooting at people in that area I won't even take a second to consider it, Blam!When I go for the third option of interacting with you I will be doing so with my own well being in mind. You will not be pointing a gun at me or approaching close to me. I might be willing to help you out if you seem decent. I will be willing to shoot you if you seem even vaguely hostile. This means I will ask people to drop or put away their guns, and I will have a fully loaded gun pointed at them at the time. That doesn't mean I'm robbing them. If you can't grasp that someone might be willing to help you, but doesn't want to get killed themselves and so is going to take precautions... well.... that is your loss. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Solreal 11 Posted July 14, 2014 (edited) Ehem... You are stating that rather than coming up behind you when we are in your area we should just shoot you. You see, our choices in game are:Avoid you and hope you don't catch sight of us. Since we saw you, we were likely heading to the same general area you are in presumably to look for items. Shoot you on sight. This is boring as hell and I can play a single player game and just shoot anything that might be vaguely a danger to me. Players are both more and less skilled than most game's AI. If I approached this from a strictly PVP game you would be dead.Talk to you and risk you being actively hostile. I tend to go with the first option. Second option gets done in certain areas and with certain folks who's actions already are actively hostile. I mean if you see someone camped out on a hill overlooking a common loot spot with a LRS... their intentions are not typically all that noble. If they are shooting at people in that area I won't even take a second to consider it, Blam!When I go for the third option of interacting with you I will be doing so with my own well being in mind. You will not be pointing a gun at me or approaching close to me. I might be willing to help you out if you seem decent. I will be willing to shoot you if you seem even vaguely hostile. This means I will ask people to drop or put away their guns, and I will have a fully loaded gun pointed at them at the time. That doesn't mean I'm robbing them. If you can't grasp that someone might be willing to help you, but doesn't want to get killed themselves and so is going to take precautions... well.... that is your loss. i didn't read your whole post cause you were wrong in the very first sentence: "Ehem... You are stating that rather than coming up behind you when we are in your area we should just shoot you." I never said don't approach me. I said if your intent is to rob me, then "just shoot me". Feel free to re-read the OP ( and every other post I've written in this thread) Edited July 14, 2014 by Solreal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mercules 1290 Posted July 14, 2014 So I've only been playing the game the past 2 nights, for a total of about 6 hours. I love it. I do have one gripe, however, and it is not with the game, or its mechanics, but with an apparent mindset of some of those playing. If you see me rummaging through an old house looking for supplies, and leaving me alone is not an option for you, that's fine. But don't VOIP me to drop my axe, put my hands up, and turn around slowly. Just shoot me, srsly. i dint read your whole post cause you were wrong in the very first sentence: "Ehem... You are stating that rather than coming up behind you when we are in your area we should just shoot you." I never said don't approach me. I said if your intent is to rob me, then "just shoot me". Feel free to re-read the OP ( and every other post I've written in this thread) Actually... you need to read your OP. Hey look at that. <_< Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Solreal 11 Posted July 14, 2014 Actually... you need to read your OP. Hey look at that. <_< Did you really cut half of my post off so as to alter its context? So lame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hleVqq 139 Posted July 14, 2014 So... what are you trying to achieve with this topic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CJFlint 357 Posted July 14, 2014 (edited) So I've only been playing the game the past 2 nights, for a total of about 6 hours. I love it. I do have one gripe, however, and it is not with the game, or its mechanics, but with an apparent mindset of some of those playing. If you see me rummaging through an old house looking for supplies, and leaving me alone is not an option for you, that's fine. But don't VOIP me to drop my axe, put my hands up, and turn around slowly. Just shoot me, srsly. I am not 'dynamic content'.I am not a fly placed here for you to pull the wings off of.i am not going to pause my evening of gaming in order to provide you with role-playing entertainment. This may seem like a dick move on my part but, really, who wants to spend their night being 'virtually' mugged for some random internet stranger's enjoyment? Not I. I'll go ahead and re-spawn, you can loot my corpse. Thanks.When I 1st started playing I had the exact same mind set and still do about being mugged, robed, or humiliated by ass hats in game. Just shot me because I'm not playing your stupid twisted fucking game. You keep your dignity which is huge. After a few weeks you'll learn your way around and learn to avoid those ass hats. Once you learn the way things work you'll be the one targeting people like that. Ya see just like every other multi player games, you have players who prey on new players and new spawns. There normally not the brightest people and also don't like challenge. So they target people new players cause its easy. Edited July 14, 2014 by CJFlint 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Solreal 11 Posted July 14, 2014 So... what are you trying to achieve with this topic? Conversation. I think it's called "player interaction" around here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hleVqq 139 Posted July 14, 2014 About what, exactly? I haven't read the whole thread but the original post only consists of you bitching about how you don't like being mugged and telling people to shoot you instead so you could respawn. What sort of discussion shall come out of that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Solreal 11 Posted July 14, 2014 About what, exactly? I haven't read the whole thread but the original post only consists of you bitching about how you don't like being mugged and telling people to shoot you instead so you could respawn. What sort of discussion shall come out of that? One currently at two pages. Thanks for contributing! :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hleVqq 139 Posted July 14, 2014 So you got exactly the kind of discussion you wanted? Great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Solreal 11 Posted July 14, 2014 So you got exactly the kind of discussion you wanted? Great. Thanks! :thumbsup: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
a_typical_noob 651 Posted July 14, 2014 How do you know they want to rob you? Maybe he just wants a kiss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CJFlint 357 Posted July 14, 2014 I've been playing for a few 100 hrs now, all of stuff has happened to me in game both good and bad. I have died more times then I can count and killed more times then I can count. One thing I'll will say is not once ever, I mean ever have I been mugged or taken prisoner. I will fight no matter what. Whats the worst they can do to you, its a game. Real life I prob would hand over the wallet though lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evil Minion 943 Posted July 14, 2014 And thats why death should be more punishing than having to wait 30 seconds to respawn. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dallas 5195 Posted July 14, 2014 (edited) Buddy they are telling you to drop your stuff, because shooting you will break all the stuff in your inventory. And yes it's better to die swinging, than on your knees like a beggar. Edited July 14, 2014 by Dallas 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Zod 1118 Posted July 14, 2014 When I go for the third option of interacting with you I will be doing so with my own well being in mind. You will not be pointing a gun at me or approaching close to me. I might be willing to help you out if you seem decent. I will be willing to shoot you if you seem even vaguely hostile. This means I will ask people to drop or put away their guns, and I will have a fully loaded gun pointed at them at the time. That doesn't mean I'm robbing them. See that's the problem, you hold a gun pointed at me and ask me to put mine away. How do I know that you do that with good intentions rather than to avoid getting shot back while you aim for my head ? And thats why death should be more punishing than having to wait 30 seconds to respawn.Yes, lock your steam account for a week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgieBest 7 Posted July 15, 2014 Be grateful that you have had so many (any) people try to hold you up. Normally all the player interaction you will get is an instant "you are dead" screen out of no where. But cry some more, my characters thirsty and your tears taste great. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mercules 1290 Posted July 15, 2014 Did you really cut half of my post off so as to alter its context? So lame. Do you really not grasp the concept that not everyone who says, "Get down, lower your gun." isn't going to mug you? Or do you regularly get into firefights with cops? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgieBest 7 Posted July 15, 2014 (edited) See that's the problem, you hold a gun pointed at me and ask me to put mine away. How do I know that you do that with good intentions rather than to avoid getting shot back while you aim for my head ? Yes, lock your steam account for a week. If you want to be in the driving seat in your player interactions, then don't let yourself be in a position which puts other players in the driving seat. That doesn't mean ignore their demands, because at that point it's too late. It means spotting people before they spot you. When you start playing the game in a way where you dictate how the player interactions go, you will quickly learn that there is a reason why most people demand you holster your weapon and put your hands up, you will probably start doing the same. Edited July 15, 2014 by GeorgieBest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mercules 1290 Posted July 15, 2014 See that's the problem, you hold a gun pointed at me and ask me to put mine away. How do I know that you do that with good intentions rather than to avoid getting shot back while you aim for my head ? Yeah, if I wanted you dead, got close enough to surprise you and for you to hear me say that, I could have killed multiple times at that point. So I would guess I have already shown that my intentions are not to kill you. If I go to handcuff you or anything else that would be the time to trigger the, "I guess I'll try and make them kill me." As I stated I once gave a guy a can opener at gunpoint. He thanked me and we parted company. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgieBest 7 Posted July 15, 2014 Yeah, if I wanted you dead, got close enough to surprise you and for you to hear me say that, I could have killed multiple times at that point. So I would guess I have already shown that my intentions are not to kill you. If I go to handcuff you or anything else that would be the time to trigger the, "I guess I'll try and make them kill me." As I stated I once gave a guy a can opener at gunpoint. He thanked me and we parted company. Absolutely this. I can tell from the OP's attitude that he will eventually be a KOS without communication player, and for that I hope many people hold him up, cuff him, break his legs and leave him stranded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Zod 1118 Posted July 15, 2014 Yeah, if I wanted you dead, got close enough to surprise you and for you to hear me say that, I could have killed multiple times at that point. So I would guess I have already shown that my intentions are not to kill you. If I go to handcuff you or anything else that would be the time to trigger the, "I guess I'll try and make them kill me." As I stated I once gave a guy a can opener at gunpoint. He thanked me and we parted company. Well I wouldn't trust you anyway. 99,9% of my player interaction ends with one of us seeing the you are dead screen, usually it's the other guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Gews- 7443 Posted July 15, 2014 Well, I'm with the OP, I don't care for that kind of "interaction". That's not why I got into DayZ anyways <_< hey, bullets are interaction too. I've not been mugged yet either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lithium1056 45 Posted July 15, 2014 Guy shoots at me (no weapons on just trying to duck a sniper) I run up stairs and tell him I'm friendly he goes ok. Three of his buddies show up I get hand cuffed force fed and they tell me they don't have a key and send me on my way I leave they shoot me. The hell was the point of that /slowlybecomingakosplayer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elmyr 8 Posted July 15, 2014 If they shoot you - they shoot youif they menace you, wait till they're close and then throw a grenade at your feetthat's fun(this is the best use of grenades. Keep one with your medical supplies) - and also you get to shout "die like dogs, witless nerd bandit scum!"So can you arm grenades without putting them in your hands? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites