Pending Changelog: Experimental Branch: 0.42.116002

[doomx041 0]

we all know its and alpha, if u are one of those stereotrypical ppl that cant find out that in all reality, rocket is taking 3 years to put in core elements in a 80% incomplete game. its kind of embarrassing to be waiting that long. even more so If u have been playing this engine based game since flashpoint, its ashame to see someone like rocket take lead and pre announce his departure to a highly anticipated game with no intentions on living up to it, it seems like he will never put vehicles in cause he works too slow. after this "year" goes by, this game will improve finally but a bit too late. after all he "clearly" stated its an "alpha work in progress." aka take your money as an investment. so he basicly banked on us to lend it away in a year to get all initial sales. gg rocket, pass it over to bohemia please. "I intend this on freedom of speech" I will LULZ if I get banned my own opinion. in all reality.

 

FUCK YOU... you probably have no idea how risky it is to just throw in new items and features, it would create so many bugs that it would destroy the whole code... You won't change anything with your whining. Please just piss off. Fast patches<Slow "stable" patches

[Ironhuge 69]

What I find lame is the fact I couldn't find any of that info regarding experimental servers going down during the weekend, things would be better if they would keep us informed through their very forums, not every other social media since not everybody like to use them on a regular basis (me).

 

Best regards, Carlos.

 

+ fucking one... I dont have facebook, I dont have twitter, I dont have Instagram.... Why the hell would the devs not publish news on their OWN forums? Who the f-ing hell thinks "I need more information about Dayz, I better go search facebook or twitter...".

[stielhandgranate 480]

So the Dean Hall Internet Defense Force's excuse for the dev's short comings is Well you shouldn't have bought it anyway"? People bought this product to show their support and hope their purchase furthered development. The whole development course shows a trend that Dean Hall and his pals or ether way in over their heads or don't care enough to finish this project. The game was released late for one. A large amount of files were simply ported over from the mod and not original content. The text files have errors and will for a long time. There are legit things to complain about and again, simply posting "Good Job, Take all the time in the world, Anyone who says otherwise is a troll" is detrimental to the development progress and corrupts any attempt at user feedback.

[jimgun 64]

Wow. Came in here to find some info about experimental servers.

 

All I find is wierdos with far too much emotional investment in a computer game, coupled with some sort of conspiracy paranoia. 

 

It's been a week............and I'm out of here.

[carlosdmc 27]

"I need more information about Dayz, I better go search facebook or twitter...".

Apparently that's the way it is, you're not alone.

[finnpalm 312]

VEHICLES please, I did not want to wait 3 years for vehicles or even tents. please make it worth me playing asap.

 

http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/177017-pending-changelog-experimental-branch-042116002/page-104#entry1855885

 

They need physics first to make vehicles work at all. If it's not worth playing for you at the moment, then I understand. I have several friends who feel that way. What do they do? They don't play. I suggest you follow suit. Good luck.

 

The DayZ development team is still so small, I counted +- 20 people working on the game.

 

Here is the video of Rocket's workforce. (Tour of their new office)

 

 

The group working on the hunting is not there, so this is filmed before they were hired. Also it's possible that other people work from other places than that office. An approximation of the current work force would be between 40 and 50 people.

 

lets be honest we didn't think it would be this shit did we?

 

I actually thought it would be more shit than it is. Based on videos I'd seen on youtube and word of mouth from friends.

 

So the Dean Hall Internet Defense Force's excuse for the dev's short comings is Well you shouldn't have bought it anyway"?

 

No, the excuse for their so called short comings is that making a game from scratch is pretty difficult, and shit happens. Bugs show up, and have to be dealt with. Your complaints are still not constructive. And never will be. It's in their nature.

 

 

+ fucking one... I dont have facebook, I dont have twitter, I dont have Instagram.... Why the hell would the devs not publish news on their OWN forums? Who the f-ing hell thinks "I need more information about Dayz, I better go search facebook or twitter...".

 

I can totally understand why the devs choose to not wade through the sea of excrements that is this forum. If people were a little more interested in understanding the game development process, and behaved in a more mature way about it they probably would still show up here from time to time. But the current state of this forum, and the behavior of the members give the devs all the reasons to not come here. This place is a fucking mess, and people are behaving very immaturely, spewing their hate to the left and right.

 

When I need information on the internet I search for it until I find it. It's almost never where I want it to be, and usually not all collected for my pleasure in one convenient place.

Edited March 16, 2014 by Strawman

[lumo1234 68]

Can you blame them? Look at this thread for an example... 107 pages of quite literally constant fucking crying and moaning...

 

You dont need twitter to read the devs posts on there and each one is posted on the dev tracker section of the forums here, which is why i dont think the ways we are updated will change.

Edited March 16, 2014 by lumo1234

[Shiggy (DayZ) 25]

I'm quite surprised that there are so many people moaning about how "Shit" development is coming along. I'm not sure about anyone else, but I personally think development is coming along great, and am looking forward to further development.

[stielhandgranate 480]

 

No, the excuse for their so called short comings is that making a game from scratch is pretty difficult, and shit happens.

 

I can totally understand why the devs choose to not wade through the sea of excrements that is this forum.

 

The game isn't from Scratch, there is a lot of content from the Mod and ArmA 2, its their fault for not using more resources that they can use with their license from BI. Also If the forum users aren't sucking the Dean Hall and the dev's off at every moment and giving them praise, they should go to places like reddit and twitter where they will only hear things they want to hear? Please. People are upset and if they didn't want to hear it they could make like Phil Fish and give up. If they can't stand they heat then they should get out of the kitchen.

[finnpalm 312]

I'm quite surprised that there are so many people moaning about how "Shit" development is coming along. I'm not sure about anyone else, but I personally think development is coming along great, and am looking forward to further development.

 

It's about expectations. You clearly have more true to life expectations, while many people expected more.

 

 

The game isn't from Scratch, there is a lot of content from the Mod and ArmA 2, its their fault for not using more resources that they can use with their license from BI. Also If the forum users aren't sucking the Dean Hall and the dev's off at every moment and giving them praise, they should go to places like reddit and twitter where they will only hear things they want to hear? Please. People are upset and if they didn't want to hear it they could make like Phil Fish and give up. If they can't stand they heat then they should get out of the kitchen.

 

Wow. You really didn't get anything of what I wrote about constructivity, did you? That "deal with it" attitude might be "cool" to fling around among your internet buddies, but in real life that's not how things work. I'm sorry to sound like this, and I'm gonna regret it, but it's about social skills.

 

And it's not about them going to reddit and twitter to hear what they want to hear. It's about them going there to not have to put up with incessant whining and ignorant complainers who spew hate over them because of what they think is going on, rather than to ask politely for an explanation as to what is really going on. All those people who complain about things they have no understanding about. That's what they're avoiding. At least I know I would, and I don't blame them if they do.

 

And yes, the game is built from scratch. Sure, not all the content is, but content is not what an alpha is for. It's about creating a stable foundation. Then comes the content.

Edited March 16, 2014 by Strawman

[frosti 2165]

Experimentals are unplayable now, mighty lag and rubberbanding.

[stielhandgranate 480]

Can you blame them? Look at this thread for an example... 107 pages of quite literally constant fucking crying and moaning...

 

 

 

The fact that this update announcement thread is is so old it is over 100 pages long with no implementation is reason enough to complain.

[stielhandgranate 480]

double post.

Edited March 16, 2014 by Dale Gribble

[lumo1234 68]

The fact that this update announcement thread is is so old it is over 100 pages long with no implementation is reason enough to complain.

 

If you read the dev tracker and read quotes people have put here in this very thread then you know why it hasnt been implemented to stable yet. If you dont want to go to the dev tracker update to experimental and you can see first hand why it hasnt been pushed to stable yet.

 

If you dont know, its because the current experimental build has some very game breaking bugs... pushing it to stable would result in the same thing as when they pushed the last fully untested update to stable massive cluster fuck on the forums with new threads within mins of each other complaining about it.

 

Typical attitude of the human race however... push something before its ready and its broke - it isnt good enough omg fuck the devs fuck dean hall fuck them wah wah wah. Wait before pushing an update through to stable to test and fix it properly - it isnt good enough fuck the devs fuck dean hall wah wah wah.

[stielhandgranate 480]

Wow. You really didn't get anything of what I wrote about constructivity, did you? That "deal with it" attitude might be "cool" to fling around among your internet buddies, but in real life that's not how things work. I'm sorry to sound like this, and I'm gonna regret it, but it's about social skills.

 

And it's not about them going to reddit and twitter to hear what they want to hear. It's about them going there to not have to put up with incessant whining and ignorant complainers who spew hate over them because of what they think is going on, rather than to ask politely for an explanation as to what is really going on. All those people who complain about things they have no understanding about. That's what they're avoiding. At least I know I would, and I don't blame them if they do.

 

And yes, the game is built from scratch. Sure, not all the content is, but content is not what an alpha is for. It's about creating a stable foundation. Then comes the content.

 

 

It's cool that you want to blindly shill for the devs in this game. Whats not cool is how you tell all the others on this forum to fuck off unless they belong to reddit or some other media that will censor criticism to please them. The "Suggestions" forum has loads of great ideas (Granted there are a lot of bad ideas, but the bad ones are overshadowed by the good ones)  that will never come to light because of people like you thinking it's okay for the devs to treat their userbase like crap simply because they may read mean things about them on the internet. If they thought they weren't going to hear such complaints on their own forum then they should grow thicker skin. It may sound hypocritical to say the devs have to put up with hate from the users, and listen to the same users but it's what they signed up for and they have to come to terms with it. The Devs had their timeline to make a "foundation" for the game and that window was closed with the long delayed alpha release.

[finnpalm 312]

It's cool that you want to blindly shill for the devs in this game. Whats not cool is how you tell all the others on this forum to fuck off unless they belong to reddit or some other media that will censor criticism to please them. The "Suggestions" forum has loads of great ideas (Granted there are a lot of bad ideas, but the bad ones are overshadowed by the good ones)  that will never come to light because of people like you thinking it's okay for the devs to treat their userbase like crap simply because they may read mean things about them on the internet. If they thought they weren't going to hear such complaints on their own forum then they should grow thicker skin. It may sound hypocritical to say the devs have to put up with hate from the users, and listen to the same users but it's what they signed up for and they have to come to terms with it. The Devs had their timeline to make a "foundation" for the game and that window was closed with the long delayed alpha release.

 

I haven't told anyone to fuck off. If you're looking for information you can find it. That's all I'm saying. If you don't want to have to search for it, then that's up to you, but expecting someone to serve it to you without any effort on your part shows a spoilt sense of entitlement. Telling the devs that they should grow thicker skin and deal with the hate is sort of confusing. Wouldn't it be your job to come off as reasonable to make them talk to you? Isn't that how it works in real life? When approaching a person with criticism you need to use a certain sense of tact. You need to present it in a nice way. It's your job. If you don't, you can't expect them to neither take you seriously, nor reply at all. You're behavior is what dictates if the person you're speaking to will want to have anything to do with you or not. You may be on the internet right now, but these are real people you're speaking to. This is how we humans interact with each other. I'm assuming you have learned this, but seemingly forgotten it the moment you got on the internet.

 

That the timeline for creating the foundation for the game closed with the alpha release is simply not true. All that the release meant was that they released something that was playable. As in, would run at all. You're just making stuff up. They decide when the foundation is ready. Not you.

[HellSnake 26]

As I said before: you want it quickly, or you want it well done. You can't have both. Have some patience FFS.

Has anyone that complains about slow development in Dayz bought other early access games? DayZ has LIGHTNING FAST update cycles, compared to other games I've played, like Project Zomboid or Kerbal Space Program. And good for them, I'm not saying that's a bad thing.

 

You payed for a finished game that will be released in 2015/2016. At a discount for buying so early. The devs then let you play their buggy unplayable alpha and beta, and work hard so it is as bug-free as possible so it's fun to play. You didn't pay to get all the features you expect from the finished game in the 3 and a half months that have passed from the alpha release.

 

If by the end of the alpha you see that the announced core features haven't made it to the game, then start worrying. But not yet. They will come, at their due time.

[horrorview 56]

One thing I agree with the game's detractors on is the fact that, yes, we do need more by way of communication from the devs. I understood Rocket's decision to back away for a bit after the fallout of the Eurogamer article, but it's time for him to return to the forefront and do what it was he did before Reddit exploded. Rocket is the reason the team doesn't have a community manager, as he's on record as saying that they're superfluous and that "no one listens to them anyway", so he's long served as the defacto CM. If he doesn't want to deal with the negatives and the personal attacks and criticisms (and who among us really does?), then he must HIRE A COMMUNITY MANAGER to at least give us a weekly update on progress/setbacks. Pithy comments and tweets from Hicks are obviously not enough to satisfy the community. 

[Schrankwand 5]

One thing I agree with the game's detractors on is the fact that, yes, we do need more by way of communication from the devs. I understood Rocket's decision to back away for a bit after the fallout of the Eurogamer article, but it's time for him to return to the forefront and do what it was he did before Reddit exploded. Rocket is the reason the team doesn't have a community manager, as he's on record as saying that they're superfluous and that "no one listens to them anyway", so he's long served as the defacto CM. If he doesn't want to deal with the negatives and the personal attacks and criticisms (and who among us really does?), then he must HIRE A COMMUNITY MANAGER to at least give us a weekly update on progress/setbacks. Pithy comments and tweets from Hicks are obviously not enough to satisfy the community. 

 

Looking at the forums right now, I would probably only tell two or three people from the whole team to actually be in the forum.

 

People might actually get into the mode of wanting to explain over and over again, which would be quite unproductive. Currently,this is done by players. If devs started doing this, the onyl thing that would happen is delaying their ACTUAL work :D

And they might possibly get depressed. 

[aempes 3]

Have any one else server issues? My server is not reachable every 10min for like 5min.

[horrorview 56]

Looking at the forums right now, I would probably only tell two or three people from the whole team to actually be in the forum.

 

People might actually get into the mode of wanting to explain over and over again, which would be quite unproductive. Currently,this is done by players. If devs started doing this, the onyl thing that would happen is delaying their ACTUAL work :D

And they might possibly get depressed. 

 

LOL! Yes, you have a very good point, there. And Rocket's current silence could very well just be due to the fact that he's got his nose to the proverbial grindstone squashing bugs, which is fine with me, but it would be nice were he active once again (or at least as active as he was a month ago). I think the silence, in this case, is deafening.

[ibherb 38]

I would suggest checking out http://feedback.dayzgame.com/plugin.php?page=Vote/list_bugs

 

These are the most discussed issues. If you would search for all issues that have been "acknowledged" you would get a list of issues that are actively being fixed.

 

 Thank you for the link, I have bookmarked it.

 

 I don't see anything in there about Brian Hick's twitter about this weekend's experimental DB actions though ...  If someone hadn't posted in here the twitter posts, I would be really confused as to what was going on .  Please understand, I don't do all the new "Social Media" things, have no use for it, and cant see trying to do it for one game I play, because the game's "officials" don't like to post in the game's "official forums".

 

 I'm an old retired Leatherneck from VN era.  I don't do "social media" because what friends I have that are still alive, don't use it either ..  we go see each other in person. You can say, "Hell, we aint gonna post in forums for one old timer who's out of touch", but as you can see from all the comments in here, it isn't just me.

 

 So I shall ask ...  Please ...Please ... Please ...  post in here the relevant informations.

 

Thanks

[frosti 2165]

LOL! Yes, you have a very good point, there. And Rocket's current silence could very well just be due to the fact that he's got his nose to the proverbial grindstone squashing bugs, which is fine with me, but it would be nice were he active once again (or at least as active as he was a month ago). I think the silence, in this case, is deafening.

 

I think that captain Rocket has abandomed the ship. I just hope that we did not hit the iceberg and we are not sinking.

[Ironhuge 69]

All I find is wierdos with far too much emotional investment in a computer game, coupled with some sort of conspiracy paranoia. 

 

I used to be like you, then the player drop came and now I havn't seen a player in-game for days. If I'm going to play on servers with < 20-25ms all I get is 4-6/40 listings, which used to be fully populated.

[PitstopHead (DayZ) 40]

One thing I agree with the game's detractors on is the fact that, yes, we do need more by way of communication from the devs. I understood Rocket's decision to back away for a bit after the fallout of the Eurogamer article, but it's time for him to return to the forefront and do what it was he did before Reddit exploded. Rocket is the reason the team doesn't have a community manager, as he's on record as saying that they're superfluous and that "no one listens to them anyway", so he's long served as the defacto CM. If he doesn't want to deal with the negatives and the personal attacks and criticisms (and who among us really does?), then he must HIRE A COMMUNITY MANAGER to at least give us a weekly update on progress/setbacks. Pithy comments and tweets from Hicks are obviously not enough to satisfy the community. 

 

Maybe. What we do need is a new road map and a list of things they're updating in the patches. Does he need a CM for that?