These M4 kids need to be dealt with.

[Demoth 366]

M4 aren't that easy to get unless you server hop and/or make a long journey west to find one.

 

I normally just take my shot gun and kill a guy with an M4 in Berezino.  Berezino has lots of buildings and walls, making engagements fairly close if you pick your battles.  When fighting in those settings, popping out behind a wall with a shotgun can be positively lethal.  Then you just need to scoop up that M4 and use it as your own.

 

How do you kill anyone with the shotguns?????

 

So far, I've been hit point blank with shotguns at least 3 times in the last month. Each time I was within 2 or 3 meters and EVERYTHING I wore got damaged, but I almost lost no health, and both barrels were fired at me. I proceeded to then axe 1 of the guys as he tried to reload, and the other 2 I used my sidearm to kill them.

 

A few days ago someone burst into a fire house trying to punch me, a bambi. I sawed off blasted him right in the chest, and he just kept coming. I had to put him down with my SKS.

 

I hear stories of people using the shotgun to great effect, so I'm not quite sure what the deal is.

[cj14 189]

Nothing a Mosin Nagat can't take care of

[ChiefMasterKush 321]

I hear stories of people using the shotgun to great effect, so I'm not quite sure what the deal is.

If you put the gun at them it kills them.  At least it does for me.  That being said I to get my shotgun I took it from a guy who killed my friend at the top of the 5 story stair case in a medical building.  As I am slow walking up the stairs he unloads one round.. then another.. I took no damage then had him say hello to my fire ax.  Saw'd off the end and threw it in my back pack.

 

So I guess if you can't point it at your target you will have a hard time, otherwise *BAM*BAM* and target should be dead.

[SxeDave 7]

So I decided to hint that the M4 was OP because there are no other spray and pray weapons yet so I suggested that until its more like the mod that 30 rd mags spawn less, I admitted to logging into the airfield because thats where my group and I logged out 3 days ago so I admitted that my action could constitute as a server hop. The replies I got were exactly as I expected from nerds who think video games are real life or anything close to it. "You admitted to server hopping and got kilttt so haw haw" Like you havent server hopped ever...white knight prick "The m4 is just a better weapon in real life." "My 6 shooter can take on an m4 any day because the m4 is so under powered." So right after reading the first couple replies I left and started playing Dayz.

 

I ran into a group of two in Berezino and they were actually nice and gave me a blaze 95 in exchange for sks ammo and then went on their way needless to say I was surprised they didnt kill me I almost couldnt believe. I ended up running by foot up to the NWAF by myself and make it their, of course within 5 minutes of me being their the "scarce m4" as they tried to call it is in one of the hospitals/jails with a 40 rd mag (I get another one in the Barracks) so then later I climb to the roof of the fire station and spot two people (I thought was one at the time) in the radio tower entrance who are camping in it and I also spot someone running away from the hangers but they end up running away and I dont bother them. I immediately get into a crouch/leaning position on the roof and start unloading and killed the one guy who never saw it coming.

 

His friend ended up exchanging gun fire with me WITH GUESS WHAT? An m4 because its so bad right? After all was quiet for awhile I left for the other military base to the north. So my question is besides on the coast, when you get into survivor country up north, why does everyone choose to use the m4 ? Because its under powered? Yea right. All I said was that we needed to make 30rd mags temporarily rare or increase the recoil until more assault rifles were added. But yet you insist on defending your crutch gun. The arrogance and d-riding on this subject and others is astounding. 
 

[ChiefMasterKush 321]

edit: LOLZ!!

 

 

 

 

You made another thread????  BUT WHYYY.. your first one was so hilarious and still is.

 

For everyone not in the know let me fill you in..

 

http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/176029-these-m4-kids-need-to-be-dealt-with/

 

Yea I was server hopping or at least had the intent to; yea it was one of the only times ive ever done it because I wanted to get one of the people I was playing with geared up quickly; dont act like you never do it because I bet 8/10 of you do it or have done it. So it starts out with my brother, myself, and my friend. We all get to the NWAF and log out and not play for a few days. We get back on tonight on a daytime server with 7 people (who all turn out to be at the NWAF). My friend is in the barracks looting while we keep watch and all of the sudden CRACK CRACK CRACK CRACK CRACK CRACK CRACK x40 and not one shot hit on me or my brother who were using SKS's and I had an extra mosin in my hands. 

 

So we quickly locate and engage the guy and I hit an impressive shot on him with the unscoped mosin and he goes down. Little did I know that the guy I killed also had a mosin and not an M4 which his friend that I did not see had. When I thought we were all done CRACK x20 and I absorb a hit to the foot, I run around to the end of the barracks and bandage myself all the time the gun fire is going on mainly from the bandit shooting at us. Meanwhile my friend's bullet riddled body is dead inside the last room in the barracks so he's done. I say to my brother "try to save him and ill hold the guy off, my brother trying to save my friend with anything like morphine, defibs, blood transfusions etc. is hit with another mosin sniper round and dies. I eventually meat my fate from the M4 guy who emptied at least 10 30rd mags and 5 60rd mags on me before I was dead.  

 

So all in all it was an awesome moment of dayz fun, but im tired of the no skill M4 kiddo's. There needs to be more of an incentive to not use the m4, first off 30rd mags spawn way way way too often. They should almost be non existent at this stage in the game when there isnt a lot of guns. Second off they should all spawn in damaged condition and you need to clean them to make them pristine again. The next thing is the recoil needs to be greatly increased even when feathering the trigger. The final thing is that the gun needs to be much louder as to create a greater risk of using it on populated servers. Your opinions?

 

Edited February 22, 2014 by ChiefMasterKush

[Nicko2580 398]

I'm not the one that said I would shoot you through the window :) but odds are I wouldn't engage in conversation at airfields.

 

Also, how the heck do you trade with someone who has nothing?

 

He gave the off topic pic more of a warning for a reason :)

Lots of geared players on the coast, not just bambi's. Everyone's always looking for spare M4 mags, especially 60's. 

People who have nothing get bodyguarded or I just give them spare supplies if I can't be assed guarding them or am heading the opposite direction.

[Max Planck 7174]

So I decided to hint that the M4 was OP because there are no other spray and pray weapons yet so I suggested that until its more like the mod that 30 rd mags spawn less, I admitted to logging into the airfield because thats where my group and I logged out 3 days ago so I admitted that my action could constitute as a server hop. The replies I got were exactly as I expected from nerds who think video games are real life or anything close to it. "You admitted to server hopping and got kilttt so haw haw" Like you havent server hopped ever...white knight prick "The m4 is just a better weapon in real life." "My 6 shooter can take on an m4 any day because the m4 is so under powered." So right after reading the first couple replies I left and started playing Dayz.

 

I ran into a group of two in Berezino and they were actually nice and gave me a blaze 95 in exchange for sks ammo and then went on their way needless to say I was surprised they didnt kill me I almost couldnt believe. I ended up running by foot up to the NWAF by myself and make it their, of course within 5 minutes of me being their the "scarce m4" as they tried to call it is in one of the hospitals/jails with a 40 rd mag (I get another one in the Barracks) so then later I climb to the roof of the fire station and spot two people (I thought was one at the time) in the radio tower entrance who are camping in it and I also spot someone running away from the hangers but they end up running away and I dont bother them. I immediately get into a crouch/leaning position on the roof and start unloading and killed the one guy who never saw it coming.

 

His friend ended up exchanging gun fire with me WITH GUESS WHAT? An m4 because its so bad right? After all was quiet for awhile I left for the other military base to the north. So my question is besides on the coast, when you get into survivor country up north, why does everyone choose to use the m4 ? Because its under powered? Yea right. All I said was that we needed to make 30rd mags temporarily rare or increase the recoil until more assault rifles were added. But yet you insist on defending your crutch gun. The arrogance and d-riding on this subject and others is astounding. 

 

 

 

Merged.

Edited February 22, 2014 by Max Planck

[Irish. 4886]

This was an excellent read.. bravo! lol

 

 

[SxeDave 7]

 

edit: LOLZ!!

 

 

 

 

You made another thread????  BUT WHYYY.. your first one was so hilarious and still is.

 

For everyone not in the know let me fill you in..

 

http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/176029-these-m4-kids-need-to-be-dealt-with/

 

 

The only thing funny was listening to the predictable BK's that came from call of duty using the ACR or MP7 or from BF3 using the M16 or M416 defend their crutch gun. 

[dekartz 315]

The mosin has a lot more power than the M4 and is far more accurate than the M4. The only advantage the M4 has is the amount of fire it can put down (inaccurately).

 

If you had stayed calm, lined up your sights, and took your shot you likely would've killed the guy spraying at you without taking a hit. But no. Everyone who says anything different to you is defending their "crutch" weapon (even though there's an almost unanimous preference for the Mosin amongst those replying) and your death can't possibly be your fault

[SxeDave 7]

The mosin has a lot more power than the M4 and is far more accurate than the M4. The only advantage the M4 has is the amount of fire it can put down (inaccurately).

 

If you had stayed calm, lined up your sights, and took your shot you likely would've killed the guy spraying at you without taking a hit. But no. Everyone who says anything different to you is defending their "crutch" weapon (even though there's an almost unanimous preference for the Mosin amongst those replying) and your death can't possibly be your fault

Naa its my fault because I was surrounded and held out as long as I could. I really dont care that I died and have died many times before that from falling through walls, falling off ladders and breaking legs, getting snipped because I took a shortcut in the open so I dont care anymore. I like the mosin for its accuracy and have hit very impressive shots with it and excel using it, but there is no way in a semi-close range gun fight that the mosin even compares to the sheer suppression filled death you can give with the m4. Anyone that plays semi-smart with an m4 can beat out a mosin most of the time. I know because I have. 

[dekartz 315]

Naa its my fault because I was surrounded and held out as long as I could. I really dont care that I died and have died many times before that from falling through walls, falling off ladders and breaking legs, getting snipped because I took a shortcut in the open so I dont care anymore. I like the mosin for its accuracy and have hit very impressive shots with it and excel using it, but there is no way in a semi-close range gun fight that the mosin even compares to the sheer suppression filled death you can give with the m4. Anyone that plays semi-smart with an m4 can beat out a mosin most of the time. I know because I have. 

 

And I'd argue that the M4 being better than the Mosin at close-range is the closest thing to "weapon-balancing" in the game. Further "nerfing" of the M4 would make it essentially useless.

[-Gews- 7443]

Anyone that plays semi-smart with an m4 can beat out a mosin most of the time.

 

 

That is why armies don't issue bolt-action service rifles...

[dekartz 315]

That is why armies don't issue bolt-action service rifles...

With that said, from what I understand it's far more common to see the M4 or M16 being employed in semi-auto than fully-automatic (at least in the ranged battles one often finds themselves in DayZ) and is a damned accurate weapon (especially for a semi-automatic rifle). It would be nice to have the option of switching my M4 over to semi-auto and engaging targets out to 400 (about the best I can do with iron-sights in Arma II) that, or include an AR-15 which would be locked to semi-auto and have (some) interchangeable parts with the M4. 

[Franchi (DayZ) 146]

Actually, the M16A1 is MUCH louder than the M4, especially using a supersonic round.

Please stop.

 

The m4 is not a loud gun, the M16 is less of a loud gun.

 

You want a loud gun? Try a 30-06 stalking rifle with a 16.5" barrel.

 

Where do you kids get this stuff?

[SxeDave 7]

Please stop.

 

The m4 is not a loud gun, the M16 is less of a loud gun.

 

You want a loud gun? Try a 30-06 stalking rifle with a 16.5" barrel.

 

Where do you kids get this stuff?

Ive never fired an M4 but have shot guns that take the same ammo as it and no they are not that loud compared to most guns. But they are too quiet in the game, they almost sound like an frigging bb gun going off.

[-Gews- 7443]

But they are too quiet in the game, they almost sound like an frigging bb gun going off.

 

They remind me more of typewriters.

 

[dirby12 33]

So you want to make it worse than it is in real life? You want someone with a fifty year old rifle to be on equal grounds with someone who is using military-grade weaponry?

 

Fascinating.

this

[ChiefMasterKush 321]

The only thing funny was listening to the predictable BK's that came from call of duty using the ACR or MP7 or from BF3 using the M16 or M416 defend their crutch gun. 

Clearly you didn't read my posts.  I have not once defended the M4 as you say, also I clearly stated I prefer the Mosin as well.

 

Also, since you clearly think I play CoD (which i fully support as I own stock in activision), I have not played a CoD since the 3rd or 4th one.

 

I did find it funny hilarious you tried to avoid all these flames by making a new thread with the same story (slightly edited) while your first thread was still continuously being bumped.

 

Anyways thank you so much for making the end of my week at work that much more enjoyable.  And thank you again for sharing your tears.

[zecele 211]

You just sound like a bad player who constantly server hops and plays on low pop servers just to get the best loot then you probably go to a high pop server and start killing fresh spawns.

[chodeofwar 145]

Hands up if your saw the OP's thread that just got deleted.

 

Give up dude no one is going to agree with you, mainly because you are wrong.

[ChiefMasterKush 321]

Hands up if your saw the OP's thread that just got deleted merged.

 

Give up dude no one is going to agree with you, mainly because you are wrong.

check my post where i talk about that... I made a post in that thread right before it got merged.  I LOL'd

[weedmasta 784]

So you are terrible at the game and lazy at that and because you got killed by someone you want something to be nerfed. Your claims and assumptions are totally legit bro.

[SxeDave 7]

Clearly you didn't read my posts.  I have not once defended the M4 as you say, also I clearly stated I prefer the Mosin as well.

 

Also, since you clearly think I play CoD (which i fully support as I own stock in activision), I have not played a CoD since the 3rd or 4th one.

 

I did find it funny hilarious you tried to avoid all these flames by making a new thread with the same story (slightly edited) while your first thread was still continuously being bumped.

 

Anyways thank you so much for making the end of my week at work that much more enjoyable.  And thank you again for sharing your tears.

Glad I could help you laugh and forget your sad pathetic life. 

[SxeDave 7]

So you are terrible at the game and lazy at that and because you got killed by someone you want something to be nerfed. Your claims and assumptions are totally legit bro.

I have played this game since release day and the mod since the summer of 2012. I never once called for a nerf because there were a lot of guns, now there are only a few old guns and 1 assault rifle. Since everyone flocks to that assault rifle I suggested temporarily nerfing it. Like I said about the BF3 M16 especially, the people that insisted on keeping that gun unerfed were the exact reason that BF4 is bad now and that BF3 didnt capitalize on CoD's downfall. I'm just warning you thats all.