Cannibalism

[Mctoot 16]

Wow. People seem to be happy to discuss this over and over. Happy days!

[alexeistukov 272]

You come and try to eat me. I will shoot you and your little friends.

[Mr Sinister 167]

Agreed, cannibalism would happen without a doubt in the scenario. Cannibal gangs/tribes/groups would be a great addition. :).

[muddyraccoon 176]

Since this is a sparsely populated place to begin with, I doubt cannibalism would occur before the expiration date of canned foods.  And actually Wikipedia pages are not done by common peeps.  It is done by semi-knowledgable people at worst, and is always fact checked using real encyclopedias and citations.  All the same, from a microbiologists point of view, there are terrible consequences from eating other humans.  Cannibalism in the animal kingdom is controlled by the evolution of certain proteins that are infectious to that species.  Humans have it (hence the responses with Kuru disease) though the amount to cause a negative affect is unknown since cannibalism has really only been studied by a small amount of tribes here and there. 

 

But I stand by my earlier statement: Sex before cannibalism.

 

I'd rather walk in on 2 people boning than be killed for my meat.

 

"Oh, sorry.  I was just checking for loot.  Mind if I grab that olive tac shirt thats under you?  Nevermind, it's all sweaty.  I'll just watch."

[MajorDutch 1]

Cannibalism.... bad idea! DayZ become an Hobby Hannibal Lector Simulation...... that will suck hard, and nobody wants to eat humans.... sick bstrds!

Edited February 20, 2014 by MajorDutch

[Mrs.Sinister 13]

I think cannibalism is a great idea. If you were starving, desperate and dying, I think this is definitely something that would happen. I know I'd certainly give it a try!

[Damnyourdeadman 1045]

I think cannibalism is a great idea. If you were starving, desperate and dying, I think this is definitely something that would happen. I know I'd certainly give it a try!

Yeah...if you were starving,not trolling...

[TEST_SUBJECT_83 465]

Cannibalism.... bad idea! DayZ become an Hobby Hannibal Lector Simulation...... that will suck hard, and nobody wants to eat humans.... sick bstrds!

Bet you would do it, if you were at the brink of starving to death.

[Nicko2580 398]

lol. 

I don't have an issue with it being in the game, but I don't think it's really that necessary.

[mpm470 4]

Yeah! Cannibaliskm would be sick and awesome, but i think that would end with a lot of protest etc form more sick people in real.

 

btw.. most stupid thing in game is that u cant open can with almost everything... If someone is dieing of starvation and has a can of spaghetti, you know, he will open it wih rock or something...

Edited February 20, 2014 by mpm470

[Pvt_Larry (DayZ) 98]

People will go down to their coast to collect their next meal. There was no good reason to kill a fresh spawn before; but if you add cannibalism, fresh spawns become fresh meat.

[MajorDutch 1]

Bet you would do it, if you were at the brink of starving to death.

 

i guess not.

[ld-airgrafix 403]

Why resort to cannibalism only to have to find a vaccine to treat the disease you contracted. Much easier to find a can of tuna then a vaccine

[darksteeljorge 96]

lol ?

[Mr Sinister 167]

People will go down to their coast to collect their next meal. There was no good reason to kill a fresh spawn before; but if you add cannibalism, fresh spawns become fresh meat.

Excellent point.

[skow 1]

Force feeding people is the closest we'll get to rape in this game...

 

But cannibalism should make it's way into the game. I like the side effect that you commit to being a cannibal and therefor have to hunt players to survive.

Bean rape.

[IcePick (DayZ) 4]

I can personally see a good use for cannibalism in the game, if done right.

 

 

 

The main arguments against cannibalism in this game are: 1.) It wouldn't add something to the game. 2.) Would be too controversial. But nothing is less true:

 

 Cannibalism has been in multiple medias since ancient times and most of them have become classics, think about silence of the lamb, The walking dead, Titus Andronicus to call out a few prime examples and while this would be the first time a player can eat a other player it wouldn't really be that new. What would be a lot more interesting is the way players are going to react to Cannibalism. It would make the player "Alignment" a lot more 3-dimensional.

With good people who choose to eat people out of need, Bandits who start crusades against cannibals, Hannibals who charm you to your slaughter, to just give a few examples.

 

 But the game shouldn't encourage cannibalism, neither should it punish the player for his actions so there should be some neutral buff/debuff system for Cannibalism. While its entirely up to the creators to choose how they would do it, here is my idea to view it as a incurable status:

 

Cannibalism

lvl 0: Human meat fills very little hunger and has a 20% chance for vomiting.

lvl 1: Human meat food increased by 20% | Normal food decreased by 20% | No vomiting.

lvl 2: Human meat food increased by 40% | Normal food decreased by 40%

lvl 3: Human meat food increased by 60% | Normal food decreased by 60 | Considered a cannibal.

lvl 4: Human meat food increased by 80% | Normal food decreased by 80%

lvl 5: Human meat food increased by 2x | Normal food doesn't fills hunger anymore

lvl 6: Human meat food increased by 2,25x | Unable to notice if somebody is a bandit or not unless they are considered cannibals. | Normal food makes you vomit

 

While may not be totally realistic it would be fair. The game won't encourage players to start eating human meat but will encourage Cannibals to travel in pacts.

This way the player first has to compare to pro's and con's before he starts eating people.

 

So here is my argumentation why you should add Cannibalism to the game, I think that the option to force feed people their friends is a matter for later discussions after we finished this chapter.

 

Perfect!! Was thinking this just the other night! As soon as a player chooses to go down the path of cannibalism normal food does not satisfy their hunger as much.

 

This would add a whole new aspect of gaming as PVP will not only be for the purpose of killing for fun but for need.

 

It has the power of choice along with consequences.  

[TiggyPooh 134]

I've been reading the various suggestions and the only one I like is that eating human flesh makes you sick.

I would suggest the cannibal becomes sick with some form of hepatitis, his/her eyes and skin turn yellow as a sign for everyone else that this is a cannibal.

They would actually lose their appetite for food and have less stamina.

The only way to keep their stamina up would be to eat high protein food like meat (incl. human meat).

Without appetite they wouldn't get the "I am hungry" messages until they are starving and then have to quickly find high protein food like human flesh to stay alive.

 

The only way to cure it would be to take lots of antibiotics over a longer period of time. 

 

To sum it up, eating human flesh makes you sick with a form of hepatitis that colors your skin and eyes yellow.

You also lose appetite and stamina due to the hepatitis and your body consumes more energy due to the illness and needs to eat more high protein food like meat to stay alive.

Edited June 24, 2014 by TiggyPooh

[commanderbash 102]

I don't understand how or why threads on cannibalism keep making it to the first couple pages of the suggestion thread, they all have the same bs in them

 

 

Why not add the ability to eat other players?

 

why would you? eating genetically similar meat is really hard on your system, anything I've read stated that eating human meat may send your system into a form of shock from it believing its eating itself, which I'm sure affects the nutritional intake you'd receive, there's some articles I've read stating some of the health issues with eating pigs may be due to its genetic similarity.

 

 

maybe if you ate zombies you could gain #ability

 

STOP, just STOP, I don't know what happened to these people to make them walking corpses, but if eating human meat wasn't bad enough for you, I'm sure eating human meat that has been rotting for what? months? years? anyways, if you think that's a great idea then leave a raw ham out for a couple weeks then eat it,,(pour some salt on it I'm sure you'll be fine)

 

BTW look up prion disease its mad cow for humans

 

 

what if we had to do it to survive?

 

YOU DON'T, not only is food abundant in the game, they've added significantly more with the addition of animals and apple trees. there's many more likely situations that could have solutions added into the game then facing cannibalism or death from starvation; like being able to hop through the door of the hospital to find morphine for your broken leg, which in addition usually has a half dozen food items in it. once you know where food is in the game, you almost have to purposely avoid all food sources to die of starvation.

 

 

it'd certainly add a new dynamic to the game

 

great news! it's already in the game, its called eating, if cannibalism was added into the game it'd be no different then animals now, you'd bend over a body, click skin and quarter, a generic knife moving animation would happen, then the body would disappear and you'd have steaks in your inventory that would then need to be cooked, at the end of the day nothing would be seen that would be different or ritualistic in any manner, the only thing that I could see someone do that would stir an emotion is try to offer/force-feed it to other players, other then that there'd be literally no visual difference then any other food source. you wouldn't know by seeing it that someone was eating a steak of human or cow.

 

 

OH OH OH!  there could be some visual representation like #visual

 

there's already a visual for trying to be a freak. the payday masks, visually they show that you aren't friendly and would rather shoot and terrorize then offer assistance to random strangers. and that's why nobody wears them, at least not outside of a group. competent or cowardly, players rather be a wolf in sheep's clothing, because looking like trouble will get you shot a lot faster then not.

 

 

 

the ONLY time I've ever seen a food shortage is when something neat is added into experimental and 80 player servers are filled and looted bone dry within the first hour of their launch

 

the ONLY thing that cannibalism would add is another level above tea bagging(corpse desecration)

 

the ONLY real use for cannibalism in the game would be trolling. AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!

 

please don't put such a stupid thing in this game, it's voyeurism, and it's retarded

Edited June 24, 2014 by commanderbash

[basinox 300]

Wow, This post is still alive?

[Cullis 7]

Since this is a sparsely populated place to begin with, I doubt cannibalism would occur before the expiration date of canned foods.  And actually Wikipedia pages are not done by common peeps.  It is done by semi-knowledgable people at worst, and is always fact checked using real encyclopedias and citations.  All the same, from a microbiologists point of view, there are terrible consequences from eating other humans.  Cannibalism in the animal kingdom is controlled by the evolution of certain proteins that are infectious to that species.  Humans have it (hence the responses with Kuru disease) though the amount to cause a negative affect is unknown since cannibalism has really only been studied by a small amount of tribes here and there. 

 

 

You've actually got it completely backwards, padre. 

 

Humans practiced cannibalism in the past. And because of that, we're somewhat resistant to it. Unlike cows - which contracted BSE more easily after being fed foodstuffs containing prions. There were at least ~200K cases of BSE in Britain, and so far, 166 deaths due to vCJD.. and that's after people ate tainted meat for years.

 

Furthermore, it seems some more cannibalism (mortuary in this case) has led to development of almost complete immunity to prion diseases in a certain Papuan tribe..

[Cullis 7]

I don't understand how or why threads on cannibalism keep making it to the first couple pages of the suggestion thread, they all have the same bs in them

 

 

why would you? eating genetically similar meat is really hard on your system, anything I've read stated that eating human meat may send your system into a form of shock from it believing its eating itself, which I'm sure affects the nutritional intake you'd receive, there's some articles I've read stating some of the health issues with eating pigs may be due to its genetic similarity.

 

 

This is complete and utter bullshit. There is no such effect. People can eat human meat and be perfectly fine. 

 

In fact, folk beliefs run into the opposite direction. A common belief among tribals was that eating other people gave you their strength and vitality..

 

There's even a funny statue in Tarabuco, Bolivia, commemorating a past victory of natives over the Spanish. 

 

 

Yep. That guy has taken a bite out of the heart of his fallen enemy.. 

[11tw 106]

I could imagine some people would also rape defensless survivors in the apocalypse (happens even without the apoc) but I doubt that rape will make it into the game.

yes, that would happen. Along with child murder, torture etc. However, since this would add nothing to a pvp survival experience, this will be left out. Unless you are some kind of mutant who get's sustanance from raping people?

 

Cannibalism would however add something to the game, because it is a realistic (if dark) way of surving if you are low on food.

 

p.s. there is a disease which happens specifically when you consume human flesh regularly, but seeing as it develops over a long time like a cancer I doubt it should be put in the game. On the other hand, the psychological trauma of eating someone could cause hallucinations, paranoia etc. Don't know how these would be represented in the game, but it would be cool.

Edited July 26, 2014 by 11tw

[R7AREC7A 1]

I think we should be able to eat people if we capture them.. Maybe have a special technique for cooking them..

[Conrad_The_Comrade 577]

Cannibalism was already confirmed I think. But yes, I've already made plans to eat my captives. I'm forcing my group to agree, or else they'll get eaten as well :P