The Community's List of Suggested Weapons for Dayz Standalone (Version: 1.29)

[stielhandgranate 480]

UZI 9mm

 

More obscure sub machine guns also for that matter :D

 

They need to make the current sub-machineguns and mags more common. I have secured three MP5s and no magazine, and never located a RAK or the mag for it. Funny that the RAK spawns at helicopters, seeing how Russian helicopter crews are equipped with AKS-74U carbines and not sub-machineguns.

[liquidcactus 719]

They need to make the current sub-machineguns and mags more common. I have secured three MP5s and no magazine, and never located a RAK or the mag for it. Funny that the RAK spawns at helicopters, seeing how Russian helicopter crews are equipped with AKS-74U carbines and not sub-machineguns.

Indeed I wonder why they made the RAK so rare, although I do think it is cool being so rare but still odd.. It seems loot is also rare atm I just reinstalled dayz after 4 months+ of not playing I'm guessing they have change loot spawn management to some extent

[Evaris 61]

It seems like gibonez is not a fan of re-chambering or using less common variants that have the right caliber. Probably dislikes the AK-101 and Makarov in .380 Auto as well. Adding 7.62x25mm would probably not add to the game because it just another pistol round that only allows for a few old guns. I would rather like to see some .45 APC submachine gun (but they should fix the damage first - right now it hurt like the .357 Magnum when it should be barely stronger than 9mm).

 

Talking about .308 Winchester vs. 7.62x54mmR - the .308 Winchester on its own is potentially a little weaker than the 7.62x54mmR, meaning if you fill them "to the max" the NATO round would be less powerful. Now as you wrote it depends on the bullet in question so its absolutely fine if both were equal or even if .308 Winchester was more powerful.

Well if we're looking at potential .45 ACP candidates, our best options are probably either a UMP or a Thompson due to: 

UMP:  Used by Georgia, Latvia, Serbia, and Romania by military forces... though most utilize the 9mm version, the UMP does chamber in 45 ACP under the designation UMP45. 

Thompson SMG: Used by the Soviet Union in WWII through lend-lease programs, and remains in use in Croatia.  Semi-auto restricted versions are also a popular collector's gun worldwide. 

 

Though honestly, the Thompson would probably be the most realistic bet for a .45 ACP submachine gun. 

[I4yue 2]

A-ha!

Norinco Type 54, Model 213 (9x19mm)

 

 

 

It's essentially a Tokarev TT-33 re-chambered in 9x19mm. Sure, it's a Chinese knock-off, but aesthetically it's nearly identical and it's a real gun.

Now we can have a Tokarev without a whole new caliber being necessary.

 

Edit:

 

Seems there's also a 9x19mm PPSh-41

 

During WW2, German forces apparently re-chambered some captured PPSh-41s and PPS-43s into 9x19mm and designated them as the "MP41r".

 

Again, it's aesthetically similar to the PPSh-41, and still a real gun.

 

Now we really have no need for 7.62x25mm.

I think you would have better luck fighting for 7.62x25 then fighting for an obscure re chambered German captured sub machine gun.

As for the Norinco its interesting, its not technically 'correct', but so far there really hasn't been many 'correct' in terms of location and calibre. The norinco wouldn't be much worse in correctness then the makarov, and norinco is a big company with a large export market, so theres a chance. But the main reason id like to see the tt-33 and other 7.62x25 firearms is because 7.62x25 is such and interesting calibre, and making them all 9mm variants defeats the whole point.

 

But.... while where on the case of norinco, figures id throw these around...

Norinco T97, 5.56 uses stanag, and is a bullpup. Interesting, but still not as likely as an AUG or FAMAS

 

Norinco M305, an M14 clone. Really popular here in Canada, but I have no idea about how common it would be in civilian hands, still probably more likely then an authentic Springfield. It would be a good way to get M14 into the game considering how limited the use of the M14 is with the Americans, and the fact any M14 in in use with american forces would be dressed up as an EBR or have the good old DMR.

Edited August 26, 2014 by I4yue

[skandi007 0]

People seem to want to have "civilian" weapons in the game, which makes sense...

 

Maybe adding a Glock 17/19 to the game wouldn't be such a bad idea, it's used by police all over the world.

Also bonus points since there was a Glock in the mod already :P

Btw this is a pic from a mod to Arma 3, if you didn't notice already...

Edited August 27, 2014 by Skandi007

[Chaingunfighter 917]

I think you would have better luck fighting for 7.62x25 then fighting for an obscure re chambered German captured sub machine gun.

As for the Norinco its interesting, its not technically 'correct', but so far there really hasn't been many 'correct' in terms of location and calibre. The norinco wouldn't be much worse in correctness then the makarov, and norinco is a big company with a large export market, so theres a chance. But the main reason id like to see the tt-33 and other 7.62x25 firearms is because 7.62x25 is such and interesting calibre, and making them all 9mm variants defeats the whole point.

 

But.... while where on the case of norinco, figures id throw these around...

The location/realism/"it doesn't fit" argument isn't really sound to me, or the devs (apparently). I strive for realism, but due to globalization among other factors, it's impossible to say that any one specific weapon couldn't exist somewhere. Granted, yes, some are more likely than others, but I tend to feel something that would benefit overall gameplay should take precedent over realism, in most cases.

 

Now I can't claim to speak for the devs, but if they really were striving for ultimate realism then they wouldn't have added the Makarov IJ-70 over the PM, or quite a few of the weapons that you could deem "out of place" (i.e. the FNX-45, AWC Amphibia S, Thompson Contender, Blaser B95, etc.)

 

I simply suggested the Norinco Type 54 (model 213 variant) because people really want a Tokarev in the game, while the devs don't seem too keen on adding 7.62x25mm (it's never been said that it won't be done, but the responses have been mixed) As the Type 54 M213 is a 9x19mm gun, they could add it without the need for a whole new caliber, something that needs high clearance in the development department. Norinco copies of guns are everywhere, but in this instance, realistically, there's no reason why the country would have the 9x19mm variant, just as they probably wouldn't have .380 Makarovs either. Even if they did exist in significant quantities, you can almost bet the 9x18mm and 7.62x25mm variants would be far more common, but with 9x18mm practically thrown out and 7.62x25mm unconfirmed, there's no way to tell.

 

The MP41r really takes the same fashion, although it is slightly different aesthetically & performance-wise to the PPSh-41. I doubt you'd seriously find any, but again, I'm taking it from a "either you get this or you get nothing" point of view.

The devs don't need to add it, but when people are asking for this kind of stuff, sometimes compromises are necessary. Besides variety and location realism, the Tokarev and PPSh-41 are nothing more than a handgun and submachine-gun that just happen to fit the setting, so they aren't necessary. Just like the Makarov wasn't necessary at all, when we already had four other handguns to choose from (originally the P1 seemed to take the Makarov's slot), but we got it anyway because .380 ACP opened the door for a lot of other firearms.

 

 

The T97 would be fairly interesting, but I think if any 5.56x45mm bullpup is going to be done (assuming they only do one), it'll probably be the AUG, because it's one of Rocket's favorite guns. My second bet would be the TAR-21 or F2000, because they're actually quite common around Eastern Europe. The FAMAS, L85, T97, among others, are always candidates, but I'd guess that with the TAR/F2000 as the modular and versatile bullpup and the AUG as the pre-outfitted but overall less modular rifle, we probably won't get anything else.

 

 

As for the M305, it might be nice, but I'd much rather see a full length one, even if it has to be an M1A so you could pass it off as a civilian weapon. And there actually are regular M14s still in service with the United States, specifically the Navy, who would've been the ones accompanying the US Marines during the invasion. They're only really used for detonating ordnance safely away from ships, drilling, parachute launching, and occasionally for marksman purposes, but it is possible.

Edited August 27, 2014 by Chaingunfighter

[uweron1010 2]

Chinese Norinco M305 is quite popular among shooters because of its low price (price for a new rifle is about 2200 zł, for comparison Glock 17 costs in the range 2650 zł), good performance, and giving the feeling of of having a real M 14 so its finding in Chernarus not it would be unusual (but in relatively low quantities, so it should be quite rare in the game)

Personally, I would add more hunting weapons as

Hunterized M44   (7,62X54R/7,62X51)
This rifle is a "souvenir" of the socialist era and the 90s where often highly processed brand new weapon for the needs of hunters. Top guns like the one in the photo came from the workshop recognized the military who earned on surplus and fairly deep, upgrade weapons. For example, improving the fuse or replacing the drain system for the products recognized brands. Despite the passage of years, this weapon is still in possession of many hunters in the former Soviet Union and its former satellites in Eastern Europe
  

 

CZ 557 (7,62X51)
 Rifles CZ (CZ 550 Lux or this one) are among the most popular rifles in Europe. Good quality reasonable price, ease of repair cause they are common choice among hunters who are looking for a good weapon in the "acceptable" price.


TAF Shamshir 308 (Takistan Arms Factory, real life IOF 30-06 rifle) (7,62X51)

This rifle appeared on the market at the beginning of the XXI century in the offer of ARMA dealing with import of weapons and hunting equipment to Chernarus where he won the title of relatively light and cheap rifle but requires amendments after purchase. It is a non-license copy of a rifle from the well known manufacturer of hunting weapons from Germany



 

Edited August 28, 2014 by Uweron1010

[gibonez 3633]

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I like the cut of your jib.

 

More hunting rifles and less military weapons.

 

[Trizzo 632]

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I like the cut of your jib. More hunting rifles and less military.

Hehe well done sirs, love the guns and that gif. Can segue right into my Sauers, which looks to be what those copies are based off.

We need some high tier civi weaponry. Distinguishes itself from military with lower capacity but improve ergonomics. Magazines are usually designed to sit flush given their civilian market. Would suggest keeping them to 5 rounds as that's how they mostly come.

Sauer 202 XT, bolt

Sauer 303 Synchro, semi auto.

They also come in wood! Would love to have some rich estate areaswhere one might find some hidden expensive civy weaponry.

Edited August 28, 2014 by Trizzo

[Herubin 1]

+1 for VSS Vintorez

[baptiste9158 (DayZ) 7]

I wan't a Zastava M48  :P

 

[DURRHUNTER 597]

Henry AR-7 Survival Rifle.

http://www.gunslot.com/files/gunslot/images/58568.jpg

Make it spawn dissembled inside the stock, and you have to have a screwdriver to open up the stock and assemble the gun, it would spawn with 10rd .22lr clip inside it fully loaded. Only at heli crash sites. 

 

 

EDIT: oddly enough this reminds me of a bolo mauser carbine....

Edited August 28, 2014 by DURRHUNTER

[uweron1010 2]

TAF Frontier (real name AIA No 4 Mk IV and M10 B-2 Match) (7,62X51)

That's my idea for players who miss the "dinner bell" from mod.

 

The most famous product Takistan Arms Factory or Lee Enfield rifle replica uses the 308 Winchester caliber ammunition with a barrel length of 24 inches. Rifle in Chernarus appeared in the mid 80s as gifts to members of the Communist Party. The rifle has become popular in the former Soviet Union and other countries in the 90s among shooters looking for weapons which will be similar to the British original but will use the wide widespread ammunition.

 

was also a version of "Match" adapted to the needs of hunters



Anschutz 1903

Popular among sports shooters carbine. It is often part of the arsenal of shooting clubs and shooting sections in schools that exchange of used equipment from the Soviet era to something new.

 

Vostok CM-2 (22LR)

Old rifle massively used by the military, police, shooting clubs and schools in the time of communism. Today, despite the passage of years, is widely used by sports shooters, hunters and shooting clubs due to the low price and great quality

 

Bersa Thunder 22 (22 LR)
Very popular handgun from Argentina. With good performance, good ergonomics and accuracy has become a popular pistol among shooters seeking as a universal weapon for recreational shooting and on the sports competitions

 

MCM Margolin  (22 LR)
Still in production, the Russian sports pistol, which won three Olympic gold medals. It is famous for its indestructibility, constructional simplicity and their widespread throughout the former Eastern bloc, despite many flaws factory version (too narrow bow and rear sight, coarse trigger mechanism not adjustable, standard cladding grip is too thin and not very adhesive, which make it difficult to secure and stable grip. Lack load the barrel interferes with the stability of a weapon during shooting.) is still a common choice among novice shooters and veterans seeking cheap and durable weapon for shooting recreation and competition in the category "Rapid rimfire pistol" and "Target pistol". Most pieces are deeply modernized by the owners

 

Design development of this gun is Margo pistol. A more concealable version of the pistol, Margo is available for a less formal target shooting and self-defense applications. The barrel is shortened to 98 mm and original sights are simplified in this version

 

 

Revolver Alfa Proj M 3841 (38 special)

 

Popular revolver used mostly by sports shooters and as a CCW. This model have 4 inch lengh barrel

 

Edited August 29, 2014 by Uweron1010

[gibonez 3633]

Awesome we definitely need more bolt guns and especially need .22lr guns.

 

.22lr should be the most common caliber and most common gun in the game.

[AP_Norris 1017]

Bolt action .22lr and maybe a break action .22lr

[gibonez 3633]

Bolt action .22lr and maybe a break action .22lr

 

 

A .22lr / .410 / 12 gauge shotgun combo would be great but probably impossible due to engine restrictions.

Edited August 29, 2014 by gibonez

[Legio23 82]

why on earth would anyone in their right mind want a .22lr/.410/12g combo, what an absolute waste of time that would be.

 

Drillings I get, 12g with a centrefire rifle caliber useful for hunting mid size game, hell even with a 22 barrel I could get but to add a .410 what a waste of time. A 22lr with .410 barrel again I can understand that for rabbiting and small game.

 

.410 is only making a little bit of a comeback with 'combo' revolvers like the judge, but, better off just sticking to the .45LC for those guns as the .410 does very little. 

 

.410 is only any good for rabbiting/ small game hunting at close range with a long barreled gun, or, snakeshooting but a 22lr or .17HMR will do a much better job at longer range. Its just another totally useless caliber thats being floated around the forum.

Edited August 30, 2014 by Legio23

[I4yue 2]

Snip.

If where ever going to see a new a shotgun calibre its going to be .410 . 10 gauge is even more rare and 20 guage dosent offer any more variety in firearms then 12 guage does. Atleast with .410 you get the judge, aswell as a few cool smaller shotguns

Who cares if there only good use is hunting rabbits and small game. Small game exists in chernarus, and so would the rifles and shotguns to hunt them. In the real world its not just military rifles and hi-power rifles. Additionally a number of european countries have stricter gun control making it easier to get .410 shotguns and .22 rifles then other larger calibres, making these sorts of firearms even more common.

Edited August 30, 2014 by I4yue

[Legio23 82]

If where ever going to see a new a shotgun calibre its going to be .410 . 10 gauge is even more rare and 20 guage dosent offer any more variety in firearms then 12 guage does. Atleast with .410 you get the judge, aswell as a few cool smaller shotguns

Who cares if there only good use is hunting rabbits and small game. Small game exists in chernarus, and so would the rifles and shotguns to hunt them. In the real world its not just military rifles and hi-power rifles. Additionally a number of european countries have stricter gun control making it easier to get .410 shotguns and .22 rifles then other larger calibres, making these sorts of firearms even more common.

 

aaaahhhh so its all about the 'cool' then rather than the practicality of it.

 

Small game....well DayZ does have rabbits.

 

Give me a decent 20g and a .22 or .17HMR anyday of the week thank you, as there is nothing that a .410 can do that those calibers cannot do much better. As a firearms owner and collector as well as a hunter, I am well aware of the gun control laws in Europe and also very much aware that its not all about mil spec or large caliber rifles considering I own several small caliber weapons. One thing though, this is not Europe this is DayZ so arguementation of that kind for the implementation of .410 is a bit redundant.

[gibonez 3633]

why on earth would anyone in their right mind want a .22lr/.410/12g combo, what an absolute waste of time that would be.

 

Drillings I get, 12g with a centrefire rifle caliber useful for hunting mid size game, hell even with a 22 barrel I could get but to add a .410 what a waste of time. A 22lr with .410 barrel again I can understand that for rabbiting and small game.

 

.410 is only making a little bit of a comeback with 'combo' revolvers like the judge, but, better off just sticking to the .45LC for those guns as the .410 does very little. 

 

.410 is only any good for rabbiting/ small game hunting at close range with a long barreled gun, or, snakeshooting but a 22lr or .17HMR will do a much better job at longer range. Its just another totally useless caliber thats being floated around the forum.

 

They are meant as survival rifles.

 

The .410 combo in particular would allow hunting anything from deer with .410 slugs all the way down to small game with the .22lr.

 

Not sure how popular these things are I just know that they are relatively popular amongst those weirdo preppers.

[Trizzo 632]

Combo guns are prolific in Europe and 410/20g are a 'thing'. It don't think a combo gun will ever happen in DayZ but low caliber combos from .22, 12g, 410, 20g are very common farm guns that are hand me downs from generation to generation. No farmer or gun owner i know dumps their guns, they just keep piling up.

 

I doubt a combo gun will find it's way into DayZ but a pure single shot weapon, either rifle or smoothbore is more than warranted.

 

And it's all about small game survival, I'm talking that tasty squrriel, rabbit, birdlife. All the focus is on the big four legged beasts and not much conisderation  for more humble pickings. A great weapon for a LW survivalist to covet.

 

And nobody seems to care about U/O shotguns :(

Edited August 31, 2014 by Trizzo

[Legio23 82]

Combo guns are prolific in Europe and 410/20g are a 'thing'. It don't think a combo gun will ever happen in DayZ but low caliber combos from .22, 12g, 410, 20g are very common farm guns that are hand me downs from generation to generation. No farmer or gun owner i know dumps their guns, they just keep piling up.

 

I doubt a combo gun will find it's way into DayZ but a pure single shot weapon, either rifle or smoothbore is more than warranted.

 

And it's all about small game survival, I'm talking that tasty squrriel, rabbit, birdlife. All the focus is on the big four legged beasts and not much conisderation  for more humble pickings. A great weapon for a LW survivalist to covet.

 

And nobody seems to care about U/O shotguns :(

 

I like over and unders so you are not alone.

 

Again, small game survival I'm all for but there is already the .22LR and lets face it a 20g is far more effective than a .410 will ever be, therefore making it a better all round caliber both for hunting and defence. There's also plenty of choice with 20g shotguns so its not as if it would be hard to find suitable models.

[Evil Minion 943]

A .22lr / .410 / 12 gauge shotgun combo would be great but probably impossible due to engine restrictions.

If they manage to introduce a better fire selection feature I would like to see a combination gun. It might come with a conversion feature (attachment, kit etc.) to allow for multiple cartridges. Also .410 (or a similar caliber) would actually make a good addition. We got so many rifle cartridges. What about adding a second shotgun cartridge?

 

Some possible civilian handguns:

 

Colt Cobra (.22LR)

A second revolver and another .22LR gun. Might make for a good starter weapon or practical sidearm.

 

Glock 25 (.380 Auto)

A .380 auto handgun with a good magazine capacity. Typical design and probably one of the better variants to add.

 

And looking at the tags some military equipment:

 

SA80(5.56x45mm NATO)

We already got UK equipment so its reasonable to think British forces were part of the NATO troops in Chernarus.

 

FAMAS-G2 (5.56x45mm NATO)

The French service rifle might also be possible because French troops maybe part of the NATO forces. The G2 version is for compatibility reasons.

 

G36 (5.56x45mm NATO)

Used by Germany, Spain and some other countries this AR allows for multiple versions of different length. Might come with an adapter to use STANAG magazines.

 

Steyr AUG (5.56x45mm NATO)

Austrian servce rifle so the same argument as above. Futuristic design but its around for quite some time. should come in a version that uses STANAG magazines.

 

Steyr Scout (7.62x51mm or 5.56x45mm NATO)

As a scout rifle it makes for a lightweight and wiedly sniper/hunting weapon. Offers more utility than a true sniper.

[DURRHUNTER 597]

Son...ive killed 150 pound hogs with a .410 shut yo mouth.

[stielhandgranate 480]

If they manage to introduce a better fire selection feature I would like to see a combination gun. It might come with a conversion feature (attachment, kit etc.) to allow for multiple cartridges. Also .410 (or a similar caliber) would actually make a good addition. We got so many rifle cartridges. What about adding a second shotgun cartridge?

 

Some possible civilian handguns:

 

Colt Cobra (.22LR)

A second revolver and another .22LR gun. Might make for a good starter weapon or practical sidearm.

 

Glock 25 (.380 Auto)

A .380 auto handgun with a good magazine capacity. Typical design and probably one of the better variants to add.

 

And looking at the tags some military equipment:

 

SA80(5.56x45mm NATO)

We already got UK equipment so its reasonable to think British forces were part of the NATO troops in Chernarus.

 

FAMAS-G2 (5.56x45mm NATO)

The French service rifle might also be possible because French troops maybe part of the NATO forces. The G2 version is for compatibility reasons.

 

G36 (5.56x45mm NATO)

Used by Germany, Spain and some other countries this AR allows for multiple versions of different length. Might come with an adapter to use STANAG magazines.

 

Steyr AUG (5.56x45mm NATO)

Austrian servce rifle so the same argument as above. Futuristic design but its around for quite some time. should come in a version that uses STANAG magazines.

 

Steyr Scout (7.62x51mm or 5.56x45mm NATO)

As a scout rifle it makes for a lightweight and wiedly sniper/hunting weapon. Offers more utility than a true sniper.

 

One thing the devs really haven't capitalized on is having a second rifle that accepts a common mag with another rifle. Any of these rifles would be a good fit to introduce not only ammo compatibility, but magazine and optic compatablity.