Mauser C96

[AP_Norris 1018]

Always wanted something like that. I found one in my late grandparents attic. Iron cross, a French helmet, my grandpa's Dress uniform, webbing/belt, and helmet, and a P38 magazine along with a few French coins. Kind of an odd osortment of stuff, but awsome none-the-less.

Lol, one of my grandfathers was a Dutch war labourer/ prisoner and the other wasn't old enough.

My friend has a Nazi officers badge, he says his Grandfather shot him, got out of the tank to grab that and his luger then ran back.

To this day no one has any idea where the luger went.

Edited January 8, 2014 by AP_Norris

[stielhandgranate 480]

9mm rounds: Easy to find, lower recoil and kick than .45 ACP (which does has quite a kick) can hold more rounds, more accurate, and is very quiet.

Far from obsolete. 

 

Sorry thats wrong. The maximum effective range of a M1911 is 70 meters while the maximum effective range of an M9 is 50 meters. Also .45 rounds are subsonic and thus easier to quiet with a supressior. As far as ammo count, there are double stack magazine weapons chambered in .45 Auto.

Edited January 8, 2014 by Dale Gribble

[thedogfoodyayho 295]

Lol, one of my grandfathers was a Dutch war labourer/ prisoner and the other wasn't old enough.

My friend has a Nazi officers badge, he says his Grandfather shot him, got out of the tank to grab that and his luger then ran back.

To this day no one has any idea where the luger went.

I had asked my grandpa about the war when i was a kid. He told me he had a P38 and a German officers hat his officer took as "contraband". Not that long ago i read that that was pretty common because some officers wanted the stuffs. I guess thats where the mag came from.

Also forgot, there was a bunch of 7.92 mauser in the box. Idk why he took that shit home...

[AP_Norris 1018]

Sorry thats wrong. The maximum effective range of a M1911 is 70 meters while the maximum effective range of an M9 is 50 meters. Also .45 rounds are subsonic and thus easier to quiet with a supressior. As far as ammo count, there are double stack magazine weapons chambered in .45 Auto.

I thought 9mm was subsonic too.

You con't compare guns btw compare rounds.

[AP_Norris 1018]

I had asked my grandpa about the war when i was a kid. He told me he had a P38 and a German officers hat his officer took as "contraband". Not that long ago i read that that was pretty common because some officers wanted the stuffs. I guess thats where the mag came from.

Also forgot, there was a bunch of 7.92 mauser in the box. Idk why he took that shit home...

Bastard officer.

[stielhandgranate 480]

You con't compare guns btw compare rounds.

 

Okay, 45. AUTO is bigger and denser than 9mm NATO. The more dense a round is typically, the longer reach it will have. Thats why DMR guns tend to be 7.62x51 while standard rifles and carbines are 5.56x45 in the US military and why the M240b (7.62 GPMG) has longer reach than a M249 (5.56 LMG/SAW). While on the subsonic note, M882 ball (standard round for M9s,M11s and MP5s) is not subsonic and special purpose rounds exist that are subsonic for use with suppressors.

Edited January 8, 2014 by Dale Gribble

[OrLoK 16185]

Hello there

 

Lets not get into the 9mm/.45 debate here.

 

We are mass debating over the C96 and variants. Stick to the topic please.

 

Rgds

 

LoK

[AP_Norris 1018]

Hello there

 

Lets not get into the 9mm/.45 debate here.

 

We are mass debating over the C96 and variants. Stick to the topic please.

 

Rgds

 

LoK

Lol mass debating.

[Day Unit 18]

It's okay to play loose on the gameplay setting, same reason why everyone in the game runs like they're from the olympics, gameplay has priority even if it's just slightly, when it's in a game that value realism. I think realism's usage should be to bring more variation of aspects from real life to the game. More variation means more different play value.

 

I don't see any reason why things that could add a lot to the game would have to be taken out of consideration because of regional issue unless it really does impact the game world in an undesirable way.

 

Is it that terrible to exclude regional consideration when inputting guns?

[OrLoK 16185]

Hello there

 

We need to allow the devs a vast amount of artistic licence and I too feel that heving an out of place item or weapon need not be a bad thing if it is handled well.

 

Do I want to see Plasma weapons in the 50watt range? No.

 

Desert Eagles? Not really.

 

Something that could easily have made it's way to a deprived/rural eastern block environ? Yeah. Why not?

 

I am a fan of this particular weapon tho, so I am biased, but then again if not the c96 then I'd like to see more esoteric Eastern Block weapons make an appearance.

 

I personally do get bored of the usual m16/ak's in game and although the modifications one can add/change to DAYZ weapons makes them exciting again, I still find them a little.....pedestrian.

 

Keep em in my all means, but i'd like to see some weird but believable weaponry in game.

 

Rgds

 

LoK

[-Gews- 7443]

Is it that terrible to exclude regional consideration when inputting guns?

Yes

 

Hello there

 

We need to allow the devs a vast amount of artistic licence and I too feel that heving an out of place item or weapon need not be a bad thing if it is handled well.

[snip snip]

 

Rgds

 

LoK

If they included a Mauser, it would mean leaving out something else, something more fitting. They can't model everything and give them all "proper" spawn rates.

 

I for one would rather see any of the below pistols than a C96 and I picked most of them randomly... C96 doesn't feel plausible to me, it seems like it would be the kind of thing to make the news ("robber captured with turn-of-the-century pistol").

 

 

[dirby12 33]

great idea =)

[AP_Norris 1018]

^dammit gews.

Y U no like C96?

[King of kong 1117]

Well the Germans did have control of Czechoslovakia during WW2. DayZ's setting is in the Czech Republic. It would make sense if they added it.

Actually DayZ's setting is no where near Czechoslovakia. Chernarus is a republic, the terrain is based off a Chernarus in Czech republic.

 

[stielhandgranate 480]

 

If they included a Mauser, it would mean leaving out something else, something more fitting. They can't model everything and give them all "proper" spawn rates.

 

 

I don't think so. Theres no "limit" to the amount of firearms that can be placed in standalone outside of what ever limits the devs give themselves. DayZ mods like breaking point were able to import several weapon mods while still running at playable levels. Coding a handgun is no more difficult than coding a new food item save for weapon performace.

[tristanyockell 11]

I voted yes simply because the more firearms in game the better, I really do mean that.  Just make them realistic damage, accuracy, handling and sound wise.

Edited January 9, 2014 by Tyockell18

[AP_Norris 1018]

I voted yes simply because the more firearms in game the better, I really do mean that. Just make them realistic damage, accuracy, handling and sound wise.

Happy to have another yes.

I should really link a big ol C96 picture.

Edit: got many sexy images in one link.

*Orgasm sounds

Edited January 9, 2014 by AP_Norris

[AP_Norris 1018]

I would like to apologise if you get uncontrollable urges around the C96 like I do.

[AP_Norris 1018]

Eh!

[thedogfoodyayho 295]

Why wouldn't this pistol make sense gews?

As i've stated they are found all over the world even today, and were a common pistol back in thec'30s-'40s. Where do you think one million pistols went?

 

And the C96 was never really used by the German military in WWII. WWI, sure, but during the secound WW most used were privately purchased by SS officer's and some pilots. They had also been out of production for a few years. 

 

They were also extensively used during the Russian Civil war.

[stielhandgranate 480]

 

And the C96 was never really used by the German military in WWII. WWI, sure, but during the secound WW most used were privately purchased by SS officer's and some pilots. They had also been out of production for a few years. 

 

 

 

The Waffen SS were under equipped during early days of the war and used surplus C96 pistols in larger numbers than some think, but thats besides the point.  I would really like to see such "signature" items lauded at by other survivors. Hearing the rumors of a bandit or hero equipped with a rare weapon like a C96 or something along that line would be pretty fun. This could really expand with maybe a contest to add rare items with their back story, like a rare foreign assault rifle like a RK 95 or K2 rifle at an embassy or an old WW2 gun like a MP40 at a Chernarussian museum, of course these weapons would need to use non propitiatory ammo and have a generous amount of magazines to operate. 

[-Gews- 7443]

Why wouldn't this pistol make sense gews?

As i've stated they are found all over the world even today, and were a common pistol back in thec'30s-'40s. Where do you think one million pistols went?

They made at least 400,000 Webleys, and they've also made at least 400,000 Colt SAAs... those are also found all over the world and I don't think they fit either.

It's also not a practical firearm, it's over a foot long, doesn't handle well, reloading is a slow process with the clips and in the case of the 7.63 caliber, ammunition isn't manufactured anymore although you could use 7.62x25 and hope for the best (don't do this). All that means most people got rid of them as soon as something better came along.

I've never heard of or seen anyone using a Mauser C96 either in combat or for criminal purposes in the present day, and I've never heard of or seen any being confiscated from people either. It's a collector's item and I don't find it plausible. Too old.

[stielhandgranate 480]

The Colt Python has less of a reason to be in the region yet it is in the game to fill everyone's walking dead cowboy fantasies in East Europe. Its win win as won't cost cost the devs licensing fees, uses a common caliber (at least the 9x19 version) and won't require additional coding for magazines, and has accessories that can be added in like it's holster/stock. 

[AP_Norris 1018]

To me Gews it seems your reasoning isn't really valid, what most of us said is we want a rare gun.

Now if they added it now then it probably wouldn't be so rare, what we would need is a good few main weapon loot fillers like double barrels, 22's and bolt actions.

Takerov and Nagant Revolver would be nice, but they're both old they're both collectors firearms, what are you saying a C96 is harder to load than a revolver?

Guns shouldn't be left out of dayZ because they're bad, or any game for that matter.

Otherwise battlefield would only let you walk around with a minigun in a shopping trolley to mow down your enemies and their minigun shopping trollies.

The point I'm making is that it's a nice gun, clearly very popular amongst the community, doesn't really stir any huge OUT OF PLACE! Issues for 85% of people + and will give the dev team some play around opportunity with clips and maybe multiple use items like the stock/ holster.

I would have to say, If a dev doesn't pick this topic take a look and put it up for discussion there will be many very disappointed fans of the C96.

[stielhandgranate 480]

If anything older handguns like the C96,High power,Nagant Revolver,1911,Makarov,Tokarev would be a good supplement to military firearms like the M9,M45,M11 and MP-443 as most of these don't require licensing and offer choice to players.