E3 Expo - June 2013 - Interviews and Gameplay

[Maxgor 2314]

Yeah, I knew it would be the case and even predicted about 2 months ago but was still hoping for a miracle. Pretty much every part of the game, zombies, models, animations, weapons, crafting, interface, vehicles, loot is in very early stages or have not been worked on yet. The team is really short on resources, shame on you Bohemia, it was your chance to make it really big, like Blizzard/WoW huge., I guess tried and true Arma took priority and SA was shoved into a dark basement room with minimal resources.

This game was never going to be Blizzard/WoW huge, that is so ridiculous. This game doesn't appeal to mainstream/casual gamers in any way, it is in fact appealing to a very small audience of very hardcore gamers. Sure, they could hire a 50 to 100 more people to speed up the development time, but that doesn't guarantee a better game and just ends up costing the developers alot more and requires them to sell more copies to make back what is spent. That would in turn cause them to not be cheaper with the release as they are looking to be. It's a small team, with a not very long development time, and it just needs more work. This isn't just being anti-criticism or white knighting, this is reality.

[ZlobaRUS54 441]

This game was never going to be Blizzard/WoW huge, that is so ridiculous. This game doesn't appeal to mainstream/casual gamers in any way, it is in fact appealing to a very small audience of very hardcore gamers. Sure, they could hire a 50 to 100 more people to speed up the development time, but that doesn't guarantee a better game and just ends up costing the developers alot more and requires them to sell more copies to make back what is spent. That would in turn cause them to not be cheaper with the release as they are looking to be. It's a small team, with a not very long development time, and it just needs more work. This isn't just being anti-criticism or white knighting, this is reality.

WoW is not mainstream, Farmville is mainstream. Look the mod got almost 2 million players with no development or marketing budget. With a little push 10 million people playing MMO SA is entirely possible. That is how many players WoW got.

[Katana67 2907]

WoW is not mainstream, Farmville is mainstream. Look the mod got almost 2 million players with no development or marketing budget. With a little push 10 million people playing MMO SA is entirely possible. That is how many players WoW got.

Farmville is every bit as "mainstream" as WoW.

DayZ is not, though it certainly should be (i.e. rewarding and challenging game experiences).

I'm not sure how you can make these claims. SA isn't a MMO in the traditional sense of the acronym.

Edited June 13, 2013 by Katana67

[Maxgor 2314]

WoW is not mainstream, Farmville is mainstream. Look the mod got almost 2 million players with no development or marketing budget. With a little push 10 million people playing MMO SA is entirely possible. That is how many players WoW got.

WoW is ridiculously mainstream. It has a very open appeal from people wanting a casual MMO experience to those wanting the hardcore endgame grind. It is also an easy to play RPG MMO. That number on the front page, which I'm pretty sure isn't exact, it's been reset back once before from an error, is not like with WoW and their numbers. There isn't 2 million people playing DayZ right now. We don't even need to bring Blizzard into this. It won't hit Call of Duty or Battlefield numbers which are far lower. ARMA2 and DayZ don't appeal to the big crowds. It's challenging, unforgiving, and not an easy game in any way. DayZ will do well within it's market for what it is I think, but it's pure fantasy to think DayZ will hit a point of having millions and millions of people playing it.

[ZlobaRUS54 441]

Farmville is every bit as "mainstream" as WoW.

DayZ is not, though it certainly should be (i.e. rewarding and challenging game experiences).

I'm not sure how you can make these claims. SA isn't a MMO in the traditional sense of the acronym.

WoW is not mainstream, for once it requires a PC to play and PC gaming is long past "mainstream". Secondly it's anything but a casual game, an average WoW player invest a ridiculous amount of time into development of his character. The SA as MMO is straight from the horse's mouth, Rocket repeats it in pretty much every interview.

[belgarionnl 22]

whether it is or not is not on point! Shooters are easiest to define as mainstream or niche but for the rest there are so many variations of an MMO or RPG that everyone likes something else!

for a shooter its easiest to define: hardcore vs casual: arma vs battlefield/CoH. plus WoW has become a mainstream MMO opposed to something else that has a specific playstyle. WoW defined the genre so ofcourse its THE mainstream mmo.

DayZ is very popular but its not for the average battlefield/cod player so I won't call Day stream a mainstream game! simply popular amongst the "Hardcore-ish" players because its a new concept that is refreshing.

ON TOPIC: any new news from today, still waiting on Day to feature on the gamespot stage!

Edited June 13, 2013 by BelgarionNL

[Maxgor 2314]

WoW is not mainstream, for once it requires a PC to play and PC gaming is long past "mainstream". Secondly it's anything but a casual game, an average WoW player invest a ridiculous amount of time into development of his character. The SA as MMO is straight from the horse's mouth, Rocket repeats it in pretty much every interview.

MMO does not equal guaranteed success. In fact, all MMO's that have tried to be the next WoW either fail or don't get anywhere near that number. WoW is a completely different game from DayZ, not just in genre, but in appeal. WoW doing so well, even on PC, shows how much of an appeal it has to the masses. DayZ is specifically designed to not appeal to the masses. ARMA2 is liked by a very niche audience, DayZ just as much if not more.

[tilen 19]

I want the damn Alpha.

[Hosty 647]

really dissapointed in the game right now.... i was so ready to play in december and every month i look at it i think dayz alpha on arma2 is better...

The new gear system is cool ok.

the interface looks buggy as hell

looks easier to pick up things in arma2 than the standalone right now.

Zombies are still retarded in my opinion.

the Animations are beyond awful.

saw the guy walk the stairs zombie still run in the stairs. kinda retarded.

no vehicule in the release what?

u still see zombies in the wall glitched... supose to be a new engine? lol

inventory screen is bland

i know its gonna be an alpha release but its so buggy...... doesnt even look ready for an alpha release .. this game got a huge huge huge potential but you guys have no clue how to dev it....

i totally agree with the guy @ page 3 dimnzy....

and i feel in this forum is only the yes masters and none of them can take critism

i would buy this game if it feels less buggy. because imo this game should be alpha release in another 6 months...

Well dude, first of all learn some English dude, jeez.

Also, why are you complaining? Do you think in December it would have been better?

So please, get out.

[colekern 1364]

The team is really short on resources, shame on you Bohemia, it was your chance to make it really big, like Blizzard/WoW huge., I guess tried and true Arma took priority and SA was shoved into a dark basement room with minimal resources.

You really should research a little bit before posting nonsense like that.

That only did they raise the original budget of DayZ, but Rocket has specifically stated that he does NOT want a whole lot of people playing the initial release.

[Ozer 57]

WoW is not mainstream, for once it requires a PC to play and PC gaming is long past "mainstream". Secondly it's anything but a casual game, an average WoW player invest a ridiculous amount of time into development of his character. The SA as MMO is straight from the horse's mouth, Rocket repeats it in pretty much every interview.

I think you have kinda mess in terms. It's a mainstream of MMO branch.

[Katana67 2907]

WoW is not mainstream, for once it requires a PC to play and PC gaming is long past "mainstream". Secondly it's anything but a casual game, an average WoW player invest a ridiculous amount of time into development of his character. The SA as MMO is straight from the horse's mouth, Rocket repeats it in pretty much every interview.

It is ENTIRELY mainstream. Most people have PC's, and it doesn't require a "gaming" PC to game on a PC. Especially with a game like WoW.

You're confusing "casual" and "mainstream". Mainstream means that something caters to, and is accessible to, a wide audience (10 million players sounds pretty mainstream to me). Titles like Journey and Minecraft are pretty casual in my book, but aren't necessarily "mainstream".

WoW is both casual and "hardcore", as WoW can also accommodate hardcore players and there are DROVES of casual players.

Rocket refers to the SA as a MMO most of the time in reference to the server architecture and persistent characters. He doesn't mean "Everyone will play on the same server", as one aspect of a MMO, for example. Again, he means it in a different sense than most people do when they say MMO.

Edited June 13, 2013 by Katana67

[ZlobaRUS54 441]

You really should research a little bit before posting nonsense like that.

That only did they raise the original budget of DayZ, but Rocket has specifically stated that he does NOT want a whole lot of people playing the initial release.

I think you should take your own advice bro. Rocket is on record saying how his team does not have money for this or that. They are not able to implement better animations because they cannot afford Euphoria engine, they chose to skip lots of polish and features because they have too few people to concentrate on anything but basics. I also know that Arma 3 is Bohemias flagship product and around the time DayZ mod polularity suddenly skyrocketed their baby was in trouble, if you followed Arma 3 development, you would know Arma 3 alpha was supposed to be released in February 2012, deadlines were slipping. Now try to guess where funds from unexpected boost in Arma 2 sales were diverted to? Not DayZ:SA project from the looks of it. But at least Arma 3 is looking good now.

Edited June 13, 2013 by ZlobaRUS54

[OrLoK 16185]

Hello there

Is this thread not about E3 gameplays and Interviews? Not about BiS' "cash 4 games" alleged scam?

Let's steer it back toward the OP and also, play nice guys n gals.

Rgds

LoK

[Death_Dealer 3155]

We've already discussed the shit out of the E3 footage.

Now it's just flaming.

Edit: spelling

Edited June 13, 2013 by Death Dealer

[colekern 1364]

I think you should take your own advice bro. Rocket is on record saying how his team does not have money for this or that. They are not able to implement better animations because they cannot afford Euphoria engine, they chose to skip lots of polish and features because they have too few people to concentrate on anything but basics. I also know that Arma 3 is Bohemias flagship product and around the time DayZ mod polularity suddenly skyrocketed their baby was in trouble, if you followed Arma 3 development, you would know Arma 3 alpha was supposed to be released in February 2012, deadlines were slipping. Now try to guess where funds from unexpected boost in Arma 2 sales were diverted to? Not DayZ:SA project from the looks of it. But at least Arma 3 is looking good now.

So what, DayZ is just supposed to have unlimited resources? Euphoria cost 1 MILLION dollars and ten percent of ALL profits. That's a HUGE amount of money that would be better spent on gameplay.

[joe_mcentire 2074]

Well dude, first of all learn some English dude, jeez.

Also, why are you complaining? Do you think in December it would have been better?

So please, get out.

stop it please! really, please!

edit: simply give no answer at all.

and i feel in this forum is only the yes masters and none of them can take critism

in fact none is showing such behaviour. so either you want to provoke or you think your opinion is superior to other's.

when i see such a sentence, i immediately just skip and ignore it..sorry

Edited June 13, 2013 by joe_mcentire

[terrvik 2409]

Just The Divsion to go now then it's time for DayZ on the gamespot stream.

[DemonGroover 8836]

Well dude, first of all learn some English dude, jeez.

Also, why are you complaining? Do you think in December it would have been better?

So please, get out.

Cmon, having a go at someone who might not be a native English speaker is a bit low. And remember this is a Czech game.

And despite some posters insistence that we don't like or allow criticism of the game everyone can have an opinion just as long as it is done in the right manner.

[mitor 176]

Where can I watch the stage 2?

This http://www.gamespot.com/e3/stage-2-day-3/ doesn't work for me...

[terrvik 2409]

Where can I watch the stage 2?

This http://www.gamespot..../stage-2-day-3/ doesn't work for me...

http://www.twitch.tv/gamespote3stage2

[fluxley 2228]

Where can I watch the stage 2?

This http://www.gamespot..../stage-2-day-3/ doesn't work for me...

try this one http://www.twitch.tv/tools_tv

edit: :D Or that one

Edited June 13, 2013 by Fluxley

[joe_mcentire 2074]

interesting from gamestar.de

http://www.gamestar....lone,70615.html

Edited June 13, 2013 by joe_mcentire

[zsajak (DayZ) 1]

This game was never going to be Blizzard/WoW huge, that is so ridiculous. This game doesn't appeal to mainstream/casual gamers in any way, it is in fact appealing to a very small audience of very hardcore gamers. Sure, they could hire a 50 to 100 more people to speed up the development time, but that doesn't guarantee a better game and just ends up costing the developers alot more and requires them to sell more copies to make back what is spent. That would in turn cause them to not be cheaper with the release as they are looking to be. It's a small team, with a not very long development time, and it just needs more work. This isn't just being anti-criticism or white knighting, this is reality.

I think your definitions of mainstream casual whatever are too rigid.

Fact is this mod has nearly 2 mio players. A mod which is buggy as hell, has incredible complex controls, which game play is unforgiving, hell even the installation process used to be a challenge on its own.

Everything suggests this mod should indeed be a niche product with only a small hardcore fanbase, except that its not . 2 Mio players is hardly niche, nearly every gamer knows about dayz, there are youtubers who make a living streaming dayz, it even allowed a scam product (warz) to cash in on this popularity and its "developers" surly made a nice sum of it.

The interesting thing about dayz is that it is a hardcore mod of a hardcore game which reached massive popularity, it became huge much to the surprise of everyone

[Aporis 422]

I just love how some people say they havent done anything in 10 months... :>

Edited June 13, 2013 by Aporis