EASY MODE!

[shadowjack 254]

If you are opposed to this please tell me how people playing on private hives affects the way you play on your favorite server.

It affects me when the designers spend time on putting in optional features in an effort to make the game all things to all people instead of keeping the focus on developing the vision of what Dayz is.

It is an indirect affect. People flow to the lowest common denominator. Easy buttons will drain the player base away from what DayZ is. Away from the Game Rocket wants to develop. Sure some % of customers will be lost ... thats ok, let them go. Many will step up and adapt to what the game is. The community will have a common bond in that everyone is playing by the same rules. As Rocket has stated, he has a unique opportunity to explore his vision.

As long as DayZ is a quality product the people will buy the game BECAUSE it has a steep learning curve, BECAUSE it doesn't hold your hand, BECAUSE it is the anti-game.

[sausagekingofchicago 4711]

Easier settings brony. As in making the game less difficult for people who are new to the game or genre.

We were all noobs to the game and genre at one point. It's brutality is probably what kept a lot of us playing.

[big_t 66]

Better still, find a way to stop hackers and force them to play legit. They'll soon give up.

I totally agree with you. That would be the best scenario, but the sad fact is the standalone will also get hacked.

The hard factor of the game is one of the best parts for me, but some people just want to win, and when they can't, they cheat.

[enforcer1975 1111]

Although I think it is important to have options that allow more people to enjoy the game.

You don't enjoy a zombie apocalypse... :rolleyes:

[Michaelvoodoo25 3120]

DayZ needs to be Hard, Where would a survival challenge come from if it was easy? It is after all a survival game.

there are easier games out there, But none of them go into the detail or experience of DayZ, for me it is about the experience,.

Once the SA is released I hope there is a server for every whim, PVP, no PVP, Hunvers guild, RPG etc etc very much like the Mod. But I can play with the big boys and not mind as the game is meant to test your ability to survive with the odd's stacked against you.

[slivniku@gmail.com 93]

People are going to mod the stand alone to play it the way they want no matter what Rocket's vision of the game.

The more I think about it doesn't even matter.

This - once rocket opens the SA for modders, this will be a legit option, so why implement this now?

And once SA has sold 1mil copies easier version will be developed, rocket has said it already (xbox ;)

The biggest problem wiyh easier gameplay - do you really expect people will move from easier to harder once they' ve got used to easy? I don't think so...

[liquidcactus 719]

I cant find the quote but im almost positive Ive seen Rocket say that this game will not cater to everyone by making things easier. The game is meant to be punishing and unforgiving.

This guy is right, I'm sure the rocket mentioned this atleast once

Edited January 30, 2013 by liquidcactus

[enforcer1975 1111]

Failure is part of learning. Overcoming your limitation is where you feel you became a better player. Newcomers don't need an easier game "to learn the ropes", it's like saying you need to know everything about a game before considering playing it "seriously".

This isn't a competition game where you don't want to rub shoulders with experienced players until you trained enough. It's suppsoed to be an experience, and learning how the game work, as a newbie is part of that experience.

I wonder how players who want an easy DayZ play BF or similar titles where they have to achieve goals to get better stuff...if they actually play these games...

[CreepySalad 108]

I totally agree with you. That would be the best scenario, but the sad fact is the standalone will also get hacked.

The hard factor of the game is one of the best parts for me, but some people just want to win, and when they can't, they cheat.

Why do people have no faith?

The servers are going to be completely different. Same with the scripts and commands.

Have you seen anyone hacking on TF2 lately?

People are also saying people will mod it, and that's highly unlikely as well, considering the only reason games have it now is because of tools provided by the creator of the game.

[BwobBwub 660]

By reading the first page of comments, is Gews name now Brony?

[Private Evans 1303]

The DayZ Pink Plush Edition ...start with your friends, fully geared in a working helicopter...and cookies...

only thing..you have to wear this :

Edited January 30, 2013 by Private Evans

[Shadow Man 142]

By reading the first page of comments, is Gews name now Brony?

Lol, no. Whiteboy seems to find it hard to resist responding to any comment with a pony type avatar without putting brony or something at the end. Its his way of being subtly disparaging perhaps. In a similar way to thinking a guy wearing pink must be gay.

If you haven't heard the term brony, have a butchers on wikipedia.

Ahem, back to topic...

[intensity (DayZ) 312]

I find it funny with the magical pony stuff because it's quite the contrast between that and DayZ. The type of humor I like.

[Clumzy (DayZ) 377]

Just kidding.

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Let people have fun on an private hive server with easier options

So, sounds like you weren't kidding.

Even if you think that making the game easier will encourage new players to play harder difficulty (I don't see how it would), the forums have made it abundantly clear to you that they do not want this. They have given you several good reasons why, and you ignore the majority and accuse others of bashing you, and you insult other people (bronies). You don't even seem to like the people your suggestion would benefit, as you called them pussies in one of your earlier posts. Why are you suggesting this?

And for the record, we already have easier options, what do you think all of those 'Start with As50 TWS 800,000 Helicopters' servers are?

[logan23 118]

Just kidding.

Although I think it is important to have options that allow more people to enjoy the game.

Let people have fun on an private hive server with easier options and maybe some day they will come play with the big boys on a hive server.

I've played plenty of multiplayer focused games and the thing that keeps them going is new players. Not just new players but players of different skill.

If you are opposed to this please tell me how people playing on private hives affects the way you play on your favorite server.

There is a reason why Easy Mode is not a good idea.

From past arguments on this topic, it comes down to a player wants to have it their way- plain and simple.

The player wanting an easy mode might like to sugar coat it but it's plain and simple- I want it to be easier for me to play.

I hear the - if I buy a private server then I should get to set it up the way i want to.

No, you don't have full range to alter the game just because you bought/rented a server.

DayZ SA when it goes to Private server rentals- DayZ Devs will give you a small amount of options based on their testing of the game.

You are renting a server to run DayZ SA (a game) not something you can reshape into what you want.

DayZ SA is not DayZ Mod.

Players seem to get this mixed up that the structure of Dayz SA is different- It's a Game , not a mod.

If you want a large amount of freedom with servers then just have the DayZ Mod.

DayZ SA needs to be balanced and tested which means an easy mode would conflict with this.

As for Private Hive and servers- We won't see those for awhile. Remember the goal of this Alpha/beta release is to help get the game to a finish state not asking for a redesign of the game.

The concept of the Easy mode, and this could also include the whole debate on friendly fire since in may ways they touch on the same points- I want to make the game less punishing so I can run around with God mode on- basically.

Even though DayZ has elements of a FPS, it's designed to function as an MMO- by looking at the new Architecture for Servers/clients..

From what I have researched- BF3 does have options like the friendly fire but BF3 is a different game then DayZ SA. One is a quick deathmatch or conquest which focus on strict combat while DayZ is a survival game where combat between players is optional. What BF3's server options don't have are options to change the game's mechanics or it's over all rules.- what you experienced when playing it.

Now let's look at MMOs, Planet Side 2- This is a FPS MMO which has friendly fire. There is a reason why it's there- If players had FF turned off then players can go into combat spamming attacks not caring if they run in front of their team mate's gun fire. The purpose of Friendly fire in PS2 is to make player's fight with caution and tactics. You remove FF in PS2 and the game's design and mechanics have been changed.

Imagine if Guild Wars 2 gave players in main game the ability to attack each other? This would go against the design of the game- GW2 is designed for players to team up and work together. Having players be able to kill each other would change the whole dynamics of the game and take all the effort of the Dev team and throw it out the window- breaking the game.

Getting back to DayZ SA- anyone who has been around the DayZ Mod from the beginning or before it blew up can see where Rocket wants to go with the DayZ game.

DayZ is a game meant to trigger emotions/ reactions from the player but this is only possible when the game is harsh but fair- meaning the game gives you a bunch of tools in this sandbox to play with, from guns, food, barbwire, traps, etc. DayZ wants you to play in this world and create your own stories but also to invoked the fear of death and make the player feel tension.

A easy mode or removal of FF would break this core design principle. These two ideas would remove tension in the game- it's core.

This is like taking out all the curses in a movie that's meant to be edgy, think pulp fiction. Yeah you have an idea what they are actually saying but the removal and replacement of the original content and editing just water downs the movie experience.

When your playing DayZ SA- it's and experience created by the difficulty and unpredictability of it's world. It's harsh but will keep you and your friend's at the edge of your seat due to the unpredictability each time you jump into the game. You never know who you might bump into or what gear you will find. Easy Mode or removal of FF would destroy this.

I know some players will say but it's not doing any harm, but i say yes you are- you are damaging the core of what Dayz is. You want this mode for personal reasons not because it would make the game better.

[Diz (DayZ) 35]

The ever increasing tunnel vision shown toward the Standalone (turning it into a hardcore realism based survival sim which happens to have zombies) is probably going to result in a situation where the majority of players will continue playing and evolving the mod on private hives rather than actively playing the Standalone.

This may sound crazy, but most people don't want to come home tired from work and proceed to spend 5hrs running around a video game lost in the woods with only an axe and a tin can while shitting themselves to death with dysentery.

[Jars (DayZ) 63]

The ever increasing tunnel vision shown toward the Standalone (turning it into a hardcore realism based survival sim which happens to have zombies) is probably going to result in a situation where the majority of players will continue playing and evolving the mod on private hives rather than actively playing the Standalone.

This may sound crazy, but most people don't want to come home tired from work and proceed to spend 5hrs running around a video game lost in the woods with only an axe and a tin can while shitting themselves to death with dysentery.

Then I sincerely hope the stand alone game is not for them , and they don't buy it , and they don't play it .

After just trying a few American servers , to check out the new 1.7.5.1 patch , I am seeing the way the mod is headed , and I must say , it's disappointing .

Guns galore , vehicles galore , 24/7 daytime , donors getting free gear , side chat constantly blazing away , the purpose of the game being diluted .

Some gamers really do not want this , and I hope they are at least somewhat catered for .