Devblog update: Where is the Standalone?

[Private Evans 1303]

...people paying 59 € for crappy games like Call of Duty...18 € is really not that much....

[BelMarduk 169]

The horse is beaten, dead, burnt, buried, dug up, turned to glue, animated, rode again, beaten more, cooked, fed to pigmy rhinos and koalas, severely bludgeoned about the head neck and shoulders with a large trout, in triplicate, mashed, put on display at the local zoning office for the required 90 days notice, transported by 10 score of professional clowns on a large float down main street, (making three trips round I must point out), and STILL people dont get 'it'.... DayZ is a MOD of a game, and free MOD. No one EVER bought, paid for, gave ANY monetary compensation in any way shape or form to the MOD DayZ. The Stand Alone of DayZ IS NOT DayZ MOD. You bought Arma 2 OA to play FREE Dayz MOD.

[blitz 64]

...people paying 59 € for crappy games like Call of Duty...18 € is really not that much....

Thanks for that information, saves me going looking for it.

As for those moaning about the cost of the SA. Really! What is wrong with you people, the MOD was free. Ok you had to buy Arma 2 and DLC to play it, but Day Z was free. It was never ment to be released for the general public, yet they allowed people to play it, they didn't shut down the server telling you to F'off and they freely gave people the modded code so people could host servers. They put up a website at cost, they make regular posts on the site to keep you guys well informed and to interact with you guys. They are offering 1000 people from the community beta keys, instead of keeping it in-house(do I really need to add any more points) and despite all the cost they have put into the Mod, the site, the stand alone and the upcomming advertisment. Some of you guyts expect the stand alone game to be free.

What world do you guys live in? Now they want to put a price on a game and you guys are outraged. Some of your arguements is that it won't be a complete game. Was Minecraft a complete game, before they stuck a price on it? How about we do it your way. Rocket if you are listening, to make these A**hole happy. Deley releasing the game until it is the perfection that you want it to be, that way, you are justified in putting a price on it and when you do release it. Sell it for the price of a triple A title $60 that should keep the idiots happy.

Edited January 13, 2013 by -seraphine-

[daze23 549]

for US consumers (yeah, I know...), you kinda cross an imaginary line when you go over $20 (usd). you can scoff at that if you want, but I'm sure the number crunchers have plenty of data on that

personally I think the standalone has something to prove to justify it's price. it has to prove it's a much 'better' product than the mod

[daze23 549]

...people paying 59 € for crappy games like Call of Duty...

they really pay 59 euros on that side of the pond?

[white 44]

I can't believe people are even suggesting that Bohemia should give away the SA... lol. This MOD was free, and the single best thing that's happened to PC gaming since DOOM... I can't even begin to emphasize what a powerful statement that is for me personally.

tell me who said that, hint: being able to read isnt the same as being able to understand what was written.

You should read this entire thread: http://dayzmod.com/f...ed-of-cheating/

And I'm not discussing it here, with risk of getting warned. It's a shame we lost that space of discussion after Griff locked it.

yeah i saw the video, having been called a hacker since ut and counter strike days (where sometimes used to have scores like 30-0 in pubs with 18+ people) for hundreds of times when i played more seriously, nowdays whenever it happens although its rarer, i usually just ignore it. so to me his reactions to the accusations, which come down to mostly poking fun at, are valid. he may have cheated, of course i cant be sure, but i didnt see nothing that couldnt be done normally in the video, and the game is bugged as hell with a lot of different servers and custom versions. and anyway, independently of his skills, his videos are still very funny and the main reason for it is his charisma. so far i havent seen any other video/videos that were able to grab my attention and entertain me like that.

ps.: "oddly" he is also a great player in a lot of different games, does he cheat on all of them aswell?

Edited January 13, 2013 by white

[blitz 64]

As Fraggle has said, there're many threads dicussing the subject of cost of the stand alone and as I said my piece. I think it is time to move on.

I would be interested in seeing how the new inventory works. Like in most FPS strategy/simulated games, reloading your weapons mid clip pushes that clip into the inventory half filled. I was wondering if the new inventory will allow you to consolidate your half empty mags into full clips. It could do it automatically or as I think. It would be an option in the inventory. So you would right click on the mags and it brings up the option. >Drop mag>reload empty mag.

Also when we place a mng into a weapon, shouldn't that mag disappear from the inventory. I mean it can't be both in the weapon and in the inventory. You know laws of physic's and all.

[dallas 5195]

What you are forgetting is the Mod was broken and full of bugs, so nowhere near a "proper game" and for that reason it was free and I would not have paid any money for it.

Also, to play the mod wasn't free either, you either had already purchased Arma 2 or had to buy it, which will have cost money, so a lot of people have already invested cash in Bohemia/Rocket's direction.

What I think people are a little hot under the collar about is the higher than expected initial cost of the first release, especially considering it will not be complete and many important issues have not been address yet,

I wouldn't have expected a "free" game, but I just think the price initial price point is a tad too high, whould be £7/€8/$11 max.

The mod was nowhere near a full game, because the mod was a mod.

A mod, as in a user modification for a game.

And just because the mod's bugged, doesn't mean the game should be free.

Obviously you can claim that ArmA 2 has bugs too, but hey! You don't have to buy ArmA 2 if you don't like it. And hey! But how do you know if you'll like ArmA 2 or not? Hey! You download their free trail: ArmA 2: Free!!!!

Because you paid money to buy a 2009 game to play a 2012 free mod for the game, doesn't mean you deserve all future products from the Bohemia Interactive for free or for a discount. I bought BI's 2001 Operation Flashpoint. I bought OFP: Red Hammer, I bought OFP: Resistance, shit I bought OFP GOTY edition. I bought Armed Assault: Combat Operations, I bought ArmA: Queens Gambit. And then I bought ArmA 2. I bought ArmA 2: Operation Arrowhead, ArmA 2: British Armed Forces and ArmA 2: PMC.

If you deserve a discount standalone for buying ArmA 2, I deserve a discount on a Rolex watch.

If you think 18-20 bucks is too much, don't buy. I've been playing DayZ on and off since May last year, which means I placed more hours on DayZ, than any other full retail priced triple A title I bought.

Edited January 14, 2013 by Dallas

[guisho 258]

I turned into the official DayZ Standalone spokesman for my friends and they constantly ask me for any news or pics that I can share with them. It's clearly that even the non-hardcore gamers or community members are overhyped by now, and that's a good thing both for the DayZ brand and for the devs/Rocket wallet.

[finkone 320]

I can't believe people are even suggesting that Bohemia should give away the SA... lol. This MOD was free, and the single best thing that's happened to PC gaming since DOOM... I can't even begin to emphasize what a powerful statement that is for me personally.

I had forsaken PC gaming as lost... hadn't updated a PC in YEARS... saw DayZ on youtube and ordered a video card within weeks.

Do people not realize if this was an xbox title it would have cost 60 bucks up front (not 20-30 like it is for Arma OA combined ops) then EVERY map that's come out since would have been DLC for 5-10 bucks EACH???

Now you want the completely redesigned/engineered game for free?

Get real people, I've been almost constantly shocked at the level of entitlement this community (and tech/gaming communities in general) has of what is a SMALL team of people who basically revolutionized PC gaming forever.

Why do you lazy couch potato whiners deserve ANYTHING from these guys?? much less a free game lol.

Rocket/DevTeam - PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LET ME TEST THE SA I WILL WORK MY ASS OFF IN ANY DIRECTION YOU ASK!!!!!!!!!

Lmao @ the last sentence... up until that point I was wondering why someone would say such nice things.

I do however have my own opinion on...

Is DayZ MOD free...

Yes... it is.

do people buy Arma II with the sole reason to play DayZ MOD?

Yes... they do.

How did a game that was released in 2009, climb back up to the top of the top sellers in Steam during sales?

Because of DayZ.

Big ol' BIS wouldn't have racked in a F ton of money from their GAME, they racked in a F ton of money because of ROCKETS "Free" MOD.

So honestly - yes... DayZ is classified as free... But I wonder if they took a percentage statistic of the people who bought Arma II in Nov/Dec/Jan - who went on to download and install ACE/ACRE, or try Wasteland. That percentage would be small my friends.

I also have a opinion about how much the SA should cost... and my opinion on that is whatever the hell ROCKET dictates - its his baby, its his long nights, its his work. I'd pay 60 bucks for it as a buggy ass Alpha - because I know Rocket is not going to fail us, and keep working hard.

Edited January 13, 2013 by FinKone

[jaymurphy98@hotmail.co.uk 32]

Lmao @ the last sentence... up until that point I was wondering why someone would say such nice things.

I do however have my own opinion on...

Is DayZ MOD free...

Yes... it is.

do people buy Arma II with the sole reason to play DayZ MOD?

Yes... they do.

How did a game that was released in 2009, climb back up to the top of the top sellers in Steam during sales?

Because of DayZ.

Big ol' BIS wouldn't have racked in a F ton of money from their GAME, they racked in a F ton of money because of ROCKETS "Free" MOD.

So honestly - yes... DayZ is classified as free... But I wonder if they took a percentage statistic of the people who bought Arma II in Nov/Dec/Jan - who went on to download and install ACE/ACRE, or try Wasteland. That percentage would be small my friends.

I also have a opinion about how much the SA should cost... and my opinion on that is whatever the hell ROCKET dictates - its his baby, its his long nights, its his work. I'd pay 60 bucks for it as a buggy ass Alpha - because I know Rocket is not going to fail us, and keep working hard.

You have my beans, and my respect.

[ramontvgames 32]

It would not have anything better to leave this Monday morning to go to work with more news from Standalone dayz!! :D

[gesundheitk 420]

It has already been said that there will only be 50k keys at launch, and expanded when there are enough servers to support more players.

Edit: That number isn't confirmed, but they will be released in batches. It would be detrimental to the launch if too many players were given access to the game at once without enough servers to play on.

WHAAT? They'll run out?

Your move, next buyer...

Edited January 14, 2013 by Gesundheit

[Guest]

and anyway, independently of his skills, his videos are still very funny and the main reason for it is his charisma. so far i havent seen any other video/videos that were able to grab my attention and entertain me like that.

Yeah I heard that from WarZ players as well... they said that it doesn't matter how the game devs are liars and scammers and unprofessional people, and how they are damaging irreversibly the game industry and setting a precedent for every other game company that gamers are dumb and will pay for promisses never delivered no matter how bad is the team behind it... it doesn't matter because the game is still fun to play with your friends.

<_<

Ps: nobody has ever shown evidence that your temp gauge can blink yellow in any circunstance, except when a hack is being used. The answer to your question is in the topic I posted.

Edited January 14, 2013 by Guest

[Fraggle (DayZ) 15720]

DO NOT TURN THIS INTO ANOTHER THREAD DISCUSSING FRANKIE AND HACKING, IT'S BORING AND HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AT LENGTH ON MANY OTHER THREADS. STAY ON TOPIC.

Edited January 14, 2013 by Fraggle

[Ovation 52]

Fraggle are all other mods on holiday?

you are all we have left!

they must be plaYEN SA

Also on topic

I'm fascinated by how long it has been since the Apocalypse

anyone know?

Another thing in mind, would you all agree it would be cool if the game textures got older looking the longer the DayZ world lived?

Edited January 14, 2013 by Ovation

[Fraggle (DayZ) 15720]

Lol, don't make me paranoid, I'm sure they'd tell me, wouldn't they?

You'll know when we're testing because the forums will fill up with pointless memes and people asking for a free copy of the SA because they've already bought Arma :/

Edited January 14, 2013 by Fraggle

[Xucphra 453]

I can wait for the standalone. It looks great, and I'd rather it was held off for quality improvement than released unfinished or unpolished.

It'll be worth the wait and worth the money.

[Ovation 52]

Lol, don't make me paranoid, I'm sure they'd tell me, wouldn't they?

You'll know when we're testing because the forums will fill up with pointless memes and people asking for a free copy of the SA because they've already bought Arma :/

I'm sure there sleeping the days away, it's like time travel!

good guy fraggle keeps up the moderation though.

[beastoverlord 574]

I'm behind the SA 100%. So far I see no reason not to trust Rocket. All of his decisions have been great so far, especially now that he is delaying more so we get a more polished game from the get-go.

[finkone 320]

Lol, don't make me paranoid, I'm sure they'd tell me, wouldn't they?

You'll know when we're testing because the forums will fill up with pointless memes and people asking for a free copy of the SA because they've already bought Arma :/

Fraggle go enjoy DayZ SA - I'll hold down the fort as a temp forum team'er. :D

[Ovation 52]

Fraggle go enjoy DayZ SA - I'll hold down the fort as a temp forum team'er. :D

*Kneels* You have my sword. Edited January 14, 2013 by Ovation

[DemonGroover 8836]

Hey Fraggle, where have you been??????

[Fraggle (DayZ) 15720]

fighting off the ban appeals.

[lunchboxcharlie 19]

*Kneels* You have my sword.

And my bow.

Edited January 14, 2013 by LunchboxCharlie