youfindhans@gmail.com 27 Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) English isn't your first language huh? I couldent even decipher what you said. I wasn't talking about pointless responses in forums. I was talking about how anti DC mechanic posters have no real argument.See how short your post is now. Easy huh? Get it now?You dont have to spam the forum with long sentences of your hate of Anti-DC posts.And while this persons reason for not making a Anti-DC system might be kindof odd for you. It still adds more value to the Thread then your long ass hate stories about why you find his reasons wrong.As i said. how you just made it a short post right now. thats how you couldv repsonded also yet you choose to make a long hate post.And have a little respect man.. seriously.. even though his reasons may not really apply for everyone else. Dont be so fricking judgemental and rude. You dont know what his daughter is suffering from. clearly you suffer from something way worse. ill let the rest of the forum decide what that is.PS: Yes my first language is not English. Lets hear you speak one sentence in Dutch, French, German, or Spanish.And i do jobs for foreign people day in day out. And they constantly compliment me on my language skills. so bahaha man you are laughable. Edited July 24, 2012 by GuitarPants 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zq7 67 Posted July 24, 2012 So many sweet salty tears are flowing down red pimpled cheeks in this thread. :P Everyone needs to:1. Stand up2. Check if panties are in a bunch3. If panties = bunch, remove bunch;Look, like Rocket has said 25643123 (yes I counted, twice) everything he does is a "test" (alpha *cough* alpha), he thinks of something he likes to add/modify and then implements it. If it sucks he removes if not he keeps it.Just enjoy the game as it is, if you can't stand it go rage on the forums/reddit/4chan/twitter/facebook/etc. and hope that he reads it so it will be removed in the next patch.People are already making up this and that scenario where something in the next patch is going ruin the game. Can't we at least test the goddamn thing before we condemn it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyanyde 165 Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) The approach we're taking is to look at a players previous data when they are authenticated. If the server see's clear evidence that a player has been doing things that they are not allowed to do (such as large quantities of ALT+F4, hacked weapons, teleporting, spawning, or anything like that...) then it will either warn the player of their status, or prevent them from being authenticated.We need to add a new feature to the site that allows the player to review their personal data, so that they can check their Hive reputation, and ask for a manual review where they consider something is in error.There is the answer for everyone who considers their situation to be unique.This is for all of you with:Shitty ISP'sShitty wireless connectionsSpecial needs childrenSpecial needs wives/gf'sServer hopping due to crappy server/night time etc..Anyone else who complained that they disconnect for valid reasons.If it's valid, you can go create a ticket and it will be dealt with according to your situation.(I feel sorry for the guys who have to deal with all the "boohoo! I alt-f4'd one too many times, but this is why" nonsense) :PAs for the respawn button: jump off a roof, climb a tower and swan dive off, or just suck it up and start heading where you need to go.. There will be spawn systems etc put in place eventually, just be patient until they are added.<3edit: I am a little butthurt over the single player being disabled.. I can't play SP mod on the current version anymore, but you don't see me QQ'ing all over the forums and posting threads about how my dog plays in the Armoury while I'm at work. :P Edited July 24, 2012 by Cyanyde Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpl_hicks 1 Posted July 24, 2012 Seems like a good update Rocket. Just wondering though. I will connect and reconnect a few times to find a daytime sever, as the time zones don't always match what is listed on the server title. (Which is immensely frustrating) I also generally play on US servers,(even though I live in OZ) as OZ and KIWI servers (for me at least), are buggy as all hell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doom4mr 135 Posted July 24, 2012 You can no longer respawn, as it says in the changelog.Suicide may be possible with a firearm, I am just checking to see if it will cause me to end up on CNN or some random politician somewhere will end up blaming me for a string of suicides. I'd rather not be sued, be on CNN, or responsible for people killing themselves.Rocket, I think you will get BANNED for adding this feature in game.you better dont add this.just add confirmation dialog to the respawn button, no CNN and no BBC... B) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guerrilla (DayZ) 0 Posted July 24, 2012 I have clicked respawn by mistake before and lost some gear lucky it was just an Enfield and basic supplies, a friend i know accidentally clicked respawn and lost his nvg's dmr, etc etc :lol: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnyHillPro 111 Posted July 24, 2012 Rocket, Anyway possible that you can have a live feed on Twitch.tv on futures patches? This would pretty much eliminate some questions here and also give you a way to deflect your typing all the time. Basically this is that way I see how it should go...1. Patch 1.7.2.4 come out and is publicly distributed.2. Setup your Webcam and Twitch.tv account3. Have Twitter display your time and channel when you will be talking about the patch4. Talk about the in's and out's the patch and your vision of the future of Dayz5. Answer questions to your viewers.6. Make the video public and available to the peeps who where not able to watch (Pretty sure that you could hit 100,000 viewers in a matter of a few times of this)7. Get back to work on 1.7.2.5 with suggestions from the players helpful suggestions or B.G.C (Bitch, grips, complaints)I would eliminate alot of reading these forums everyday wasting time and get you to FIX the DAMN Helicopters!!! :) <--See how I snuck that one in there on ya... ;)this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S1ippery Jim 139 Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) The mechanics are being tested, but it will put a "timeout" if you successfully connect too many times within a period of time.This would discourage server hopping but not one off disconnecting under fire and probably won't be effective against disconnect/reconnect/disconnect/reconnect for teleporting behind an enemy (eg 2 connections within a short period of time, which could be done by legit users due to poor connection) Edited July 24, 2012 by S1ippery Jim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slasherjpc 3 Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) Make sure you include "fun" in the next patch. It's severly lacking and each and everone of these lame changes takes what fun there was to have. Oh and the guy saying who cares if someones daughter has medical issues. Grow the hell up. It's a game and maybe you prioritize this stuff over everything else in your life but most of us have lives, families, friends and other things to take care of instead of a game.Geez! Edited July 24, 2012 by slasherjpc 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cluckles 26 Posted July 24, 2012 Doling out bans is a terrible way to implement an anti alt-f4 policy. I often have to switch or relog into servers due to all sorts of factors, such as graphical glitches, lag, friends not being able to get onto the server, etc.etc. Why not just implement a 10 second logout time, like pretty much every other game in which this is an issue? If a player alt-f4's, just leave their character in game for 10 seconds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
youfindhans@gmail.com 27 Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) I like how everyone is complaining. While there isnt really anything changed yet XDWhat is being done : Respawn button is gone.What was said in interview : Suicide Bullet. - Not there yet guess.How does that effect us? : Respawning takes a bit longer. maybe 1-3 minutes to find a zombie to kill you.So what rating do i give : Small change not much impact on game.What does it get in return : INSANE ammount of complains and drama.What is being done : Disconnections are being tracked.What was said in interview : That they would do this and that it would give people who abuse it a small wait timer before joining and a warning in chat.How does that effect us? : Not much. We cant really say yet also. because it hasnt been tested to the public yet.So what rating do i give : Small change not much impact on game.What does it get in return : INSANE ammount of complains and drama.What is being done : Optimized authentication process on login.What was said in interview : That they would improve game stability etc.How does that effect us? : Probably smoother login and less problems with character loss. (just a wild guess)My favorite:What is being done : Clothing spawn fixed.What was said in interview : Didnt hear anything about it. mightv missed it.How does that effect us? : We finally get the chance to find ghillie suits. and return fire to those who only had them in tents. And for those who are worried getting sniped. Why not wear one yourself? You dont have to be a sniper to wear the ghillie suit.I sure hope there is more to be said for the time between this patch and the one before + a team working on it. But at the same time i dont know how big the team is. How much coders do you have in your team? Edited July 24, 2012 by GuitarPants 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UberFAKnNooB 21 Posted July 24, 2012 I "kind of" like the ban for quitting by use of alt+f4 even though I don't blame people for it but just as others mentioned, I too do not want to get banned because my power goes out, or my internet gets an intermittent signal, or my game crashes...or my system bugs out, or we get a nuclear attack from Russia. There are just too may other reasons why a game could stop suddenly and then end up getting banned for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dirty Rotten Scoundrel 39 Posted July 24, 2012 You are so wrong. Sex gets censored more than violence.Played a adventure game where I could drink booze and pain pills and kill myself.But in my US copy of the game I couldn't sex the lady character but the Euro version could.Game was called Fahrenheit.Rocket you got nothing to worry about.Rocket, I think you will get BANNED for adding this feature in game.you better dont add this.just add confirmation dialog to the respawn button, no CNN and no BBC... B) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harpwn13@gmail.com 0 Posted July 24, 2012 If "bans" are put into place for alt-f4, I hope it is only a temp-ban. Something along the lines of:1st Offence: Warning2nd Offence: 1 minute ban with explanation 3rd Offence: 5 minute ban with explanation4th Offence: 30 minute ban with explanation5th Offence: 60 minute ban with explanationEct... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S1ippery Jim 139 Posted July 24, 2012 Plenty of games have suicide either in game storyline or as a player function. But it doesn't need to be added in DayZ as a specific function when you can just jump of something high, or open a toilet door on yourself 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
combatcomm1 234 Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) See how short your post is now. Easy huh? Get it now?You dont have to spam the forum with long sentences of your hate of Anti-DC posts.And while this persons reason for not making a Anti-DC system might be kindof odd for you. It still adds more value to the Thread then your long ass hate stories about why you find his reasons wrong.As i said. how you just made it a short post right now. thats how you couldv repsonded also yet you choose to make a long hate post.And have a little respect man.. seriously.. even though his reasons may not really apply for everyone else. Dont be so fricking judgemental and rude. You dont know what his daughter is suffering from. clearly you suffer from something way worse. ill let the rest of the forum decide what that is.PS: Yes my first language is not English. Lets hear you speak one sentence in Dutch, French, German, or Spanish.And i do jobs for foreign people day in day out. And they constantly compliment me on my language skills. so bahaha man you are laughable.I can speak several dozen sentences in german actually. Rosetta stone is awseome as is deployment and temporary duty at Ramstien. But I digress, I posted an end all style post about the anti DC mechanic argument. YOu dont like it becuase you feel I was rude, or dont agree. I understand that for a European it may be difficult to understand or agree with non socialist Utopian ideals. And before you all flag me for being ignorant i understand there are conservatives in Europe, but leftist everyone should cater to my disadvantage types are the majority. At least in many germanic/nordic countries anyway. Well Im sorry for our cultural difference but all my points where valid. Perhaps having it in a bullet format will help?- Have to tend to work? Family? Dog? Important matters? = Its more important than Dayz! Go take care of it.- Dont want to die or DC while you tend to the more inportant issue? = Hide! In a forest, your golden. Chances are slim anyone will come up on you. In a field? Find a hedgrow. Chances are still slim? In a city? Hide in a bush, alley, building, outskirt building. Chances are better someone will come up on you but thats a risk you'll need to take.- Important matter is going to take a while? = Log the hell out. Its more inportant. Except that now was not your time to play. By the time said issue is resolved the limit or minimum time for bad rep has expired.- Have crappy internet? = Buy more bandwidth you cheapskape.- Live in a rural area? =Move or sell your copy of Dayz if you can. You shouldent have bought something you should have known youd have a hard time playing.Its not that posters or his daughters fault that she has medical issues. But guess what? Its not mine either or the other 100s of thousands of dayz players. Couple that with all of the perfectly reasonable solutions I posted above and bringing it up in the first place smells of desired sympathy votes from the community for a game mechanic. Edited July 24, 2012 by VictorM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dirty Rotten Scoundrel 39 Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) So really I think the people complaining about maybe their Internet or power fails or they try and find a good server are more or less telling me they like to alt f4. I don't alt out and I have no problem with the upcoming changes.This Rocket guy is smarter than you think he isn't going to push an update that will ban half of his player base.Also looking for a good server? Stop using crappy six updater and use dayz commander. Edited July 24, 2012 by Dirty Rotten Scoundrel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
youfindhans@gmail.com 27 Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) And before you all flag me for being ignorant i understand there are conservatives in Europe, but leftist everyone should cater to my disadvantage types are the majority. At least in many germanic/nordic countries anyway. Well Im sorry for our cultural difference but all my points where valid. Perhaps having it in a bullet format will help?Oh...my...god.... man! Just because someone is calling you rude because you have no respect. you start to bring in cultures? and start generalizing people because of the area they live in?Can you not say anything that will not make you look even more stupid and mostly ignorant? ... wowThe funny bit of this is. You even said it yourself. i Repeat Quote you: And before you all flag me for being ignorantYou ARE Ignorant lol.. thats why this dicussion will go into pointless eternity and i refuse to continue it on and spam the forum with how ignorant and stupid you are.This is why i think this forum needs a "thumb down" button on peoples profile and posts. Just giving beans isnt good enough. especially in DayZ style i vote a Steal Beans Function xDOh and the guy saying who cares if someones daughter has medical issues. Grow the hell up. It's a game and maybe you prioritize this stuff over everything else in your life but most of us have lives, families, friends and other things to take care of instead of a game.Geez! Edited July 24, 2012 by GuitarPants Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Midas 17 Posted July 24, 2012 - Have to tend to work? Family? Dog? Important matters? = Its more important than Dayz! Go take care of it.- Dont want to die or DC while you tend to the more inportant issue? = Hide! In a forest, your golden. Chances are slim anyone will come up on you. In a field? Find a hedgrow. Chances are still slim? In a city? Hide in a bush, alley, building, outskirt building. Chances are better someone will come up on you but thats a risk you'll need to take.- Important matter is going to take a while? = Log the hell out. Its more inportant. Except that now was not your time to play. By the time said issue is resolved the limit or minimum time for bad rep has expired.- Have crappy internet? = Buy more bandwidth you cheapskape.- Live in a rural area? =Move or sell your copy of Dayz if you can. You shouldent have bought something you should have known youd have a hard time playing.I think your argument basically boils down to that the game can't be convenient and fun at the same time.But the truth is, through proper research and implementation Rocket should be able to find a middle ground that satisfies the needs of most players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S1ippery Jim 139 Posted July 24, 2012 Radar should be disabled on helicopters if they are brought back as it is too OP for finding all other vehicles on the server 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dirty Rotten Scoundrel 39 Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) Hay troll face the guy brought up a good point. I don't give one fucking rats ass about your sick daughter. Got shit to do in real life then do it and stop trying to make this shit like wow. I refuse to play a game where baby's mamas can level out their wood elflame!Oh...my...god.... man! Just because someone is calling you rude because you have no respect. you start to bring in cultures? and start generalizing people because of the area they live in?Can you not say anything that will not make you look even more stupid and mostly ignorant? ... wowThe funny bit of this is. You even said it yourself. i Repeat Quote you: You ARE Ignorant lol.. thats why this dicussion will go into pointless eternity and i refuse to continue it on and spam the forum with how ignorant and stupid you are.Thats why i think this forum needs a "thumb down" button on peoples profile and posts. Just giving beans isnt good enough. especially in DayZ style i vote a Steal Beans Function xD Edited July 24, 2012 by Dirty Rotten Scoundrel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
combatcomm1 234 Posted July 24, 2012 I "kind of" like the ban for quitting by use of alt+f4 even though I don't blame people for it but just as others mentioned, I too do not want to get banned because my power goes out, or my internet gets an intermittent signal, or my game crashes...or my system bugs out, or we get a nuclear attack from Russia.There are just too may other reasons why a game could stop suddenly and then end up getting banned for it.He said he is developing algorithms.If your power goes out and his algorithms just happen to be good enough to tell that 8 other players in the area sorrounding your neighborhood, done through IP addresses, also lost DC than you wont get a bad mark. Also if this happens your power will not be restored for some time in some cases. If its just a hiccup and comes back online quickly, its a freak occurence that probably wont happen again for a while, and so therefore, will not get a bad mark. If you are playing dayz in the middle of a lightning storm than well, you should change your keyboard to an all metal design and see if that helps.Game crashes, happens but again, not so often that it would show as negative marks with a well developed algorithm. If it is happening all the time, you should prob be focussing on fixing the obvious problem you have with your game/computer/OS than playing dayz.Intermentent signal is also another infrequent, although more frequent than previous, occurance scenario that DCer and server hoppers love to bring up. It happens sometimes sure, but again, if it is happening so often in a short time frame that you get a bad rep on the hive, you need to be on the phone with your ISP NOT playing dayz!And nuclear attack from Russia? I wont even go there cuz I know you were joking. See? I have a good explanation and solution for all of them folks. Keep em coming. See if you can stump me. This is nearing rediculous levels. The majority of people that are up in arms about this ARE your DCers, server hoppers, KoSers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dirty Rotten Scoundrel 39 Posted July 24, 2012 Bandits don't give a fuck about your sick children, I would eat you and the kid to survive. Don't need fire I like sushi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dirty Rotten Scoundrel 39 Posted July 24, 2012 Yah I just killed the thread with that last post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fabrix7777 14 Posted July 24, 2012 Disable @Dayz. or dont play the beta in normal game mode.or you can just run with dayz and the beta disabled. but hey yeah blame all your problems on someone else, thats a good idea too.Don't run dayz mod when launching arma2..Guys! You really think i'm playing with dayz+beta when i'm not in dayz. Of course not, what i got for the "normal" game is 1.60.87580. It cannot be a coincidence that dayz is the only mod i can play. And this happened very recently. THIS! https://dev-heaven.net/issues/37100 WTF Share this post Link to post Share on other sites