sickhowl 9 Posted October 9, 2015 Just some concept I did of what I'd like to see in-game, use duct tap and rags to attach scopes or flashlights to the guns. Also making guns worn after usage time (since you guys are adding beards to characters depending on the lifetime) containing blood splats and some writing. 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
odin_lowe 3686 Posted October 9, 2015 These are fantastic concepts in my opinion. Looks like things we saw in the DayZ 2017 mod, which I used to really enjoy!!! I wonder if we'll eventually see things like that eventually. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OnionOfShame 138 Posted October 9, 2015 I support all of these except the scope. A scope mounted with duct tape would be worthless for any shot past 10 meters at best. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d.walker43 196 Posted October 10, 2015 I support all of these except the scope. A scope mounted with duct tape would be worthless for any shot past 10 meters at best.I support all. But your right. Lets support it anyway, and the casuals will learn soon enough which improvised attachments work and don't work ;) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dchil 829 Posted October 10, 2015 (edited) Shall we go through this again. Any form of improvised sight or mounting system just doesn't have the precision or durability to work in any meaningful way. Duct tape bayonets don't last or even work in some cases because duct tape. Rocket himself has confirmed this. That light mount on the FNX makes it, at best, a single shot but you won't ever have it work as a semi-auto with that light on there. Fixing things firearms with bandages and duct tape are not going to work or be durable enough to be effective/not blow up in your face. Duct tape mags have merit but I'd rather just have the mags separate myself. Bottle silencer is usually a one shot deal. I have heard talking that you can make effective multi shot suppressors with various household materials but I'm not well versed enough in them to elaborate further. Though i've never considered the natural selection option.... Edited October 10, 2015 by Dchil 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Jimmy 1631 Posted October 10, 2015 (edited) Those mags are wrong way around. You can't attach that to a gun because they're too tightly together when only taped around. Do it like in the right below pic and then it's right ;) http://i.imgur.com/I7HScZU.jpg Edited October 10, 2015 by St. Jimmy 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sickhowl 9 Posted October 10, 2015 (edited) about the mags, I know they're inverted. it was the only way I could fit those using the same render there. About improvised bayonets: it's the purpose. doesn't the bottle suppressor holds only 1-2 shots? same for the bayonet. it would last 2 stabs max. it's the meaning of improvised things with duct tape. the mag would last no matter what, the flashlight if attached correctly too (about 5cm to from the muzzle). about the TA01 mounted on the mosin, it's just a secondary idea for whoever wants a decent zoom while scoping a town, or a better view on CQC. besides, they should give you the ability to use any attachment on any weapon, even if useless, people would learn with time what works or not. thanks for replying, guys. Edited October 10, 2015 by Sickhowl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dchil 829 Posted October 10, 2015 about the mags, I know they're inverted. it was the only way I could fit those using the same render there. About improvised bayonets: it's the purpose. doesn't the bottle suppressor holds only 1-2 shots? same for the bayonet. it would last 2 stabs max. it's the meaning of improvised things with duct tape. the mag would last no matter what, the flashlight if attached correctly too (about 5cm to from the muzzle). about the TA01 mounted on the mosin, it's just a secondary idea for whoever wants a decent zoom while scoping a town, or a better view on CQC. besides, they should give you the ability to use any attachment on any weapon, even if useless, people would learn with time what works or not.thanks for replying, guys.Well that flashlight just turns the FNX into a single shot. No ifs buts or maybes. A better Idea for the scope would be to let us use it in our hands (Can we do this yet? I've been away for a while.) because there's no point in sticking a scope to a weapon purely so we can use it to look around. Also scopes are sh*t for CQC. Red dots and irons and no scoping is where it's at. If you need zoom in CQC then get some glasses or you're not in CQC. If you want to be able to duct tape the scope to the rifle in the hope that you can use it to aim then that won't work. The point of aim is going to shift with every shot until it flys off into your face, it'll be useless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
☣BioHaze☣ 7337 Posted October 10, 2015 -snip- A better Idea for the scope would be to let us use it in our hands (Can we do this yet? I've been away for a while.)-snip- Yep. We can now use a scope in our hands like binos. Welcome back. :thumbsup: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dchil 829 Posted October 10, 2015 Yep. We can now use a scope in our hands like binos. Welcome back. :thumbsup:Sweet. Been keeping off the wiki's until I get back into the game. (building a PC atm) I like to be in the dark with this game. Makes things interesting. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OrLoK 16185 Posted October 10, 2015 Hello there I really like these ideas even if some of the concepts are flawed. Keep em coming! Rgds LoK 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sickhowl 9 Posted October 10, 2015 using a red dot in a bolt action rifle would work if stick'ed properly to the gun. would only assist instead of using iron sights for those who can't aim properly with it. I know the flashlight would only last 1-2 shots, it's only so you can attach it on your pistol when looting camo buildings/barracks at night, so one sneaks up on you in the shadows whenever you're only using the flashlight itself and kills you. you only obviously remove the flashlight when not necessary and re-attach whenever you need (make sure you always have lots of duct tape :p) same for the red dot/ACOG on civ. rifles. also, if they add a ka-bar knife would only make easier to improvise a bayonet too. i'm not home atm, but i'll make some new improvised molotovs/nades concepts too.thanks guys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dchil 829 Posted October 10, 2015 using a red dot in a bolt action rifle would work if stick'ed properly to the gun. would only assist instead of using iron sights for those who can't aim properly with it. I know the flashlight would only last 1-2 shots, it's only so you can attach it on your pistol when looting camo buildings/barracks at night, so one sneaks up on you in the shadows whenever you're only using the flashlight itself and kills you. you only obviously remove the flashlight when not necessary and re-attach whenever you need (make sure you always have lots of duct tape :P) same for the red dot/ACOG on civ. rifles. also, if they add a ka-bar knife would only make easier to improvise a bayonet too. i'm not home atm, but i'll make some new improvised molotovs/nades concepts too.thanks guysIt's not the fact that the light will fall off. It's the fact that the pistol wouldn't cycle in a new round after you fired it. The slide would be locked up by the duct tape. But a duct taped on red dot would be about as useful as cutting out a circle in cardboard and sticking it to the gun. If you can't use irons then you have major problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sickhowl 9 Posted October 11, 2015 it would if attached properly to a 1911 for example. and yes, I agree, but some people can't use the IS or would rather use a red dot for a clearer view when ADS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dchil 829 Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) it would if attached properly to a 1911 for example. and yes, I agree, but some people can't use the IS or would rather use a red dot for a clearer view when ADS.No. You are physically holding the slide forwards with that setup, even in a 1911. The front sight makes sure of it. It could work on the Magnum but I'm not in favour of ever doing this to such a beautiful firearm. Would rather one hand the pistol and hold the light with the other. Speaking of which. Why the hell can't we do that yet? or can we... Edited October 11, 2015 by Dchil Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sickhowl 9 Posted October 11, 2015 it wouldn't actually hold since a rag is fragile to where it would tear when firing the pistol, thus the flashlight would fall off. and no, you cant hold a flashlight + pistol/revolver atm... which is stupid imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liquidcactus 719 Posted October 11, 2015 Some of these ideas are ok and some are a bit odd imo. I could see something maybe like the torch taped to a shotgun or rifle but I'm not to sure about kitchen knives taped or tied to rifles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sausagekingofchicago 4711 Posted October 11, 2015 I believe the devs have mentioned adding a workshop to the game in the future where I imagine we'd have access to actual tools, drill press, grinder, etc. We wouldn't be able to machine high end parts but home made attachments would be much more effective when we could tap holes and actually screw in scopes or craft other attachments. So if we ignore the duct tape macgyver approach, I imagine everything here would be possible assuming we had the proper supplies to actually craft them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dchil 829 Posted October 12, 2015 it wouldn't actually hold since a rag is fragile to where it would tear when firing the pistol, thus the flashlight would fall off. and no, you cant hold a flashlight + pistol/revolver atm... which is stupid imo.It doesn't actually take that much force to stop a semi-auto pistol from cycling. The cartridges are notoriously weak due to their size and not holding it tight enough will cause a failure to feed. That's how picky these things can be. Not believing me that these cartridges are weak? 9mm is just about match in energy compared to light to mid .38 special. 10mm is getting close to .357 magnum spec but it won't match a hot loaded .357. 45ACP is about .44 special, which is a long way from a .44 mag. That's just "pistol" rounds. .308 is exponentially more "powerful" than any pistol cartridge yet isn't guaranteed a one shot stop. Nothing is guaranteed a one shot stop though, And don't bring up "stopping power" that's a stupid term that means squat in reality. Muzzle energy is a better gauge but that's only gospel at point blank. I'd say a rag good enough to hold that flashlight isn't going to break, it's going to keep the slide forward. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OrLoK 16185 Posted October 12, 2015 Hello there I think we've all spotted the flaws inherent in OP's post but the ethos is sound. Lets focus on what we *could* do, not what OP has got wrong. What feasibly could be attached to weapons? If it's doable, one can assume there are pics of it on the net. So, home made suppressors for .22s taping mags together 2 or 3 stack. attaching a torch/flashlight to a rifle/smg What else? Rdgs LoK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sickhowl 9 Posted October 13, 2015 i've seen .22 improvised suppressors made of building materials being pretty effective and that would take hundreds of shots to damage and eventually break. great example of improvised attachment for DayZ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VaTiS 26 Posted October 13, 2015 Just some concept I did of what I'd like to see in-game, use duct tap and rags to attach scopes or flashlights to the guns. Also making guns worn after usage time (since you guys are adding beards to characters depending on the lifetime) containing blood splats and some writing.AMAZINGGGGGGGGGG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roshi (DayZ) 397 Posted October 23, 2015 Really like this set of ideas as a whole and think it would add to the dayz vibe. Nice work on the images. Only thing from your image I'm not big on is ACOG on Mosin. Well done though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites