Dragging captured people with you: proper kidnapping

[hemmo 55]

It has been said before at post #102 http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/225481-hermit-playstyle-enchancement/page-6

 

But how awesome would it be, if you can tie someone up, drag a burlap sack over his had and take him for a walk to somewhere safe for entertainment?

 

 

 

How coooool would this be!!!

[byrgesen 1341]

As awsome as it would be, what is stopping people from logging out?
If this gets into the game, only a handfull will actually stay logged in. Most people chicken out when the ods arent in there favor :)

 

But +1 anyway, let us at least be able to grab someones arm and lead them somewhere when they are handcuffed :) And ofc they should be able to struggle against it aswell, eventually breaking free, like the handcuffs in game atm.

Edited August 25, 2015 by Byrgesen

[lrp1984 199]

It has been said before at post #102 http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/225481-hermit-playstyle-enchancement/page-6

 

But how awesome would it be, if you can tie someone up, drag a burlap sack over his had and take him for a walk to somewhere safe for entertainment?

 

 

 

How coooool would this be!!!

 

I would much rather be able to drag an unconscious body than a handcuffed one. All too often a comrade gets hit by a sniper and it's simply too dangerous to stand still over them applying a bandage, it'd be nice to be able to quickly grab and drag them to cover.

[ColdAtrophy 1850]

As awsome as it would be, what is stopping people from logging out?

If you do that, you die. Simple fix.

 

 

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I'd also like to see the ability to drag in incapacitated friendly into cover or a house to work on them and save their lives. +1

[Syphonz 64]

Dragging someone who you've just knocked out, then throwing them into the back of a truck handcuffed.

Screw being a bandit, kidnapping is the way to go.

[hemmo 55]

Yeahhh how realllly be epicly coooool would this be!!!

 

Roleplayers willl frikking loooooove this!! And the rest of the players aswelll!!

 

As of logging out, and the burlap part, there should be somesome of mechanism: when you are being attached like this, you run/sprint automaticly (even when blind) anddd your body stays ingame aslong as you are restrained!

 

Alive zombies for reall!!!

Edited August 25, 2015 by Hemmo NL

[byrgesen 1341]

If you do that, you die. Simple fix.

 

Wont fix anything, it will actually only encourage people to do it, because they will start fresh again fast and not spawn handcuffed and with a bag over theyre head, on another server :)

[ColdAtrophy 1850]

Wont fix anything, it will actually only encourage people to do it, because they will start fresh again fast and not spawn handcuffed and with a bag over theyre head, on another server :)

 

Still not a loss for the person doing the capturing. Add a respawn timer to a death triggered by this mechanism for further discouragement.

[hekeetsu 86]

Still not a loss for the person doing the capturing. Add a respawn timer to a death triggered by this mechanism for further discouragement.

A 2 hour respawn timer and people wouldn't do it :D

[lrp1984 199]

If you do that, you die. Simple fix.

 

 

 

I'd also like to see the ability to drag in incapacitated friendly into cover or a house to work on them and save their lives. +1

 

I agree with the others, if you've been stripped and cuffed, death is pretty much the best you can hope for at that point. Easier to logout and kill yourself, log back in for a better spawn and then try and track down your captors.

 

A better solution would be for you to not die, but rather add a five minute spawn timer, and that if you log out whilst restrained it set any restraints to being permanent (unless someone else lets you out), so for anyone without friends, logging out is a game killer until someone kills you or lets you go, and it's therefore better to play out the hostage situation... or you know, make sure nobody ever manages to restrain you in the first place?

[byrgesen 1341]

Still not a loss for the person doing the capturing. Add a respawn timer to a death triggered by this mechanism for further discouragement.

 

Ofc its a loss for the person doing the capturing lol, he wastes time, handcuffs, a bag and for what? Nothing, because people will log out.

A respawn timer wont do anything either, it does nothing for server jumping, so unless its 15+ mins people will choose that over being captured.

 

McTabish is on to something there.

Force the restraints to stay on and make them near impossible to break out of alone. It should not be permanent, but it should be more difficult to get out of :)

That might actually make people play out the hostage situation, because they could end up being even more ****ed, if they disconnect and join another server.

[Majork86 0]

Let me add something simple. As world of Warcraft. Logout TIMER AND ANIMATION. Keeping an eye on the hostage should be a priority and if we know when someone is logging out by having him sitting with crossed legs (exclusive example animation for logouts) we can just kill him and solve the cheating problem. Alt+F4 would be a problem though but this solves at least half oF a problem ;)

[liquidcactus 719]

I would much rather be able to drag an unconscious body than a handcuffed one. All too often a comrade gets hit by a sniper and it's simply too dangerous to stand still over them applying a bandage, it'd be nice to be able to quickly grab and drag them to cover.

I think this bro has the right idea... only being able to do it to unconcious players is the way to go.. imagine how much more trolling bandity gayness there would be with being able to drag people while they were awake

[Whyherro123 2283]

I agree with the others, if you've been stripped and cuffed, death is pretty much the best you can hope for at that point. Easier to logout and kill yourself, log back in for a better spawn and then try and track down your captors.

 

A better solution would be for you to not die, but rather add a five minute spawn timer, and that if you log out whilst restrained it set any restraints to being permanent (unless someone else lets you out), so for anyone without friends, logging out is a game killer until someone kills you or lets you go, and it's therefore better to play out the hostage situation... or you know, make sure nobody ever manages to restrain you in the first place?

 

Pretty much. Let us be honest, here: 95-99% of the time, what do you think is going to happen when you get captured and handcuffed by a group?

 

You will get insulted, probably force-fed shit (maybe literally, if the devs get around to putting in fecal material.....which is why I am so adamant about it not being included), and finally, executed.

 

No thanks. No spawn-timer in the world is worth being talked-down-to by some shitheel and their friends.

 

And, for the idea about making restrains "permanent"....... that has to seriously be one of the stupidest ideas that I have ever heard. 

[Whyherro123 2283]

A 2 hour respawn timer and people wouldn't do it :D

 

Sure I would. So long as some sick fucks can't get their rocks of torturing me, I could care less about some stupid respawn timer. They are probably going to kill me anyways, so what is the difference between a "standard-death 2hr respawn timer" and a "logged-out-while-handcuffed 2hr respawn timer"?

 

Literally nothing. Oh, and implementing a respawn timer specifically for logging-out-while-handcuffed, and NOT for death in general, does nothing for the game but promote asshattery and griefing.

[hekeetsu 86]

Sure I would. So long as some sick fucks can't get their rocks of torturing me, I could care less about some stupid respawn timer. They are probably going to kill me anyways, so what is the difference between a "standard-death 2hr respawn timer" and a "logged-out-while-handcuffed 2hr respawn timer"?

Literally nothing. Oh, and implementing a respawn timer specifically for logging-out-while-handcuffed, and NOT for death in general, does nothing for the game but promote asshattery and griefing.

Well, maybe that's true. I just wonder why people don't just play along with the "kidnapper" and have some nice experiences. Although it depends on what they are like. If someone handcuffs you and force feeds you disinfectant and leaves you to die it's not that fun, but if theyre doing some small roleplaying and are actually fun then why not see how it goes.

[lrp1984 199]

Pretty much. Let us be honest, here: 95-99% of the time, what do you think is going to happen when you get captured and handcuffed by a group?

 

You will get insulted, probably force-fed shit (maybe literally, if the devs get around to putting in fecal material.....which is why I am so adamant about it not being included), and finally, executed.

 

No thanks. No spawn-timer in the world is worth being talked-down-to by some shitheel and their friends.

 

And, for the idea about making restrains "permanent"....... that has to seriously be one of the stupidest ideas that I have ever heard. 

 

Not stupid at all. Right now if you log off whilst retrained you die. If this was to be removed, and you are able to log back in restrained then it would have to be that you were no longer able to wriggle free, as people would exploit it. Although in most situations, as soon as you appear to be logging off you'll get shot.

 

I think I've had a character restrained once (not including jokes from clan mates), and that was as a freshspawn. I'd recently re-installed the game after upgrading my PC and had forgotten to set a default character, so had logged in as a female character. I was met by a guy that said he was friendly, and asked me to follow. I kept to text chat, told them I was a 17 year old girl, and pretended I was new, but I had a good idea of what was coming. Was led to house and given some food, I could see his friend behind me, handcuffs in hand, but thought might as well let it pan out how they want for a laugh. After they had applied the handcuffs came the lame excuse for abuse, and pseudo sexual assault.

 

After a couple minutes of them pretending to rape my character, telling me I was getting it now, etc etc I put some Lady Gaga on in the background and announced over voice chat, "Hey guys! OMG that was suuuuper! My names Lance by the way, if you guys are ever in San Fran you have to look me up!" Oddly enough I was immediately killed.

Edited August 27, 2015 by McTabish

[Majork86 0]

Not stupid at all. Right now if you log off whilst retrained you die. If this was to be removed, and you are able to log back in restrained then it would have to be that you were no longer able to wriggle free, as people would exploit it. Although in most situations, as soon as you appear to be logging off you'll get shot.

I think I've had a character restrained once (not including jokes from clan mates), and that was as a freshspawn. I'd recently re-installed the game after upgrading my PC and had forgotten to set a default character, so had logged in as a female character. I was met by a guy that said he was friendly, and asked me to follow. I kept to text chat, told them I was a 17 year old girl, and pretended I was new, but I had a good idea of what was coming. Was led to house and given some food, I could see his friend behind me, handcuffs in hand, but thought might as well let it pan out how they want for a laugh. After they had applied the handcuffs came the lame excuse for abuse, and pseudo sexual assault.

After a couple minutes of them pretending to rape my character, telling me I was getting it now, etc etc I put some Lady Gaga on in the background and announced over voice chat, "Hey guys! OMG that was suuuuper! My names Lance by the way, if you guys are ever in San Fran you have to look me up!" Oddly enough I was immediately killed.

Now we love you. More handcuffs for this guy! What about a custom pair of furry tigerskin handcuffs? :p epic man xD

[Evil Minion 943]

If you do that, you die. Simple fix.

Or "less" harsh: Make their character persists handcuffed and unconscious/sleeping until they die or get freed. Of course this would prevent them from joining another server... unless they kill their old survivor and start a new one (via some option when trying to log in). I did suggest something like this for server switching as well (wait a longer period of time between switches or switch instantly but lose your character) and think it might have potential wherever login/logout and abuse thereof influences gameplay.

 

You can basically opt into the "hostage situation" gameplay and might keep your character (even after logging out - some people have real life stuff to do) or you just "suicide" and treat it as a character death.

 

Dragging bodies whether awake, unconscious or dead is definitely a feature that has a lot of potential. Using a rope or chain like above should allow the victim some resistance though.

Edited August 28, 2015 by Evil Minion

[Scarcifer 102]

Wont fix anything, it will actually only encourage people to do it, because they will start fresh again fast and not spawn handcuffed and with a bag over theyre head, on another server :)

What if they did die and as a spawn penalty spawned in next still handcuffed and burlap sacked; maybe even with a broken leg?

Edited August 29, 2015 by Scarcifer