Global Chat Debate. Green Mountain, and radio's.

[97ADU Doug 103]

The Green Mountain Radio Station

 

Ok so there's been a few threads lately about implementing global chat. Now before you all start typing your anti global chat replies, I'm just going to say for the record that I think global chat as a core mechanic is a bad idea. I played the mod extensively, and I by far prefer the more realistic isolation that a game without a "magic chat" creates. Not the mention the spam of a server wide global chat that everyone has access to at any given time. No thank you.

 

However.

 

Iv had this little idea for a while, but iv never been bothered writing it down before, until now (because I put my pie in the microwave for too long and now I need to wait for it to cool down). Ill try to keep this short as many people don't like reading essay's. But would it be perhaps feasible to add a way for lone wolf players to meet up with other friendlies through an in game mechanic. That's when I came up with the idea of the green mountain radio.

 

The Plan

 

The Idea is simple. Radio's by themselves only broadcast 1km at any given time, which makes the chances of another player on your server picking up your transmission highly unlikely. However what if it were possible to boost said radio signal? Again this wouldn't be a starting mechanic because then everyone could spam it. But what if the devs could program green mountain (the mountain with the big red/white stick on it) to be capable of boosting the radio signal to the entire map?

 

Wouldn't it be pretty cool for green mountain to become a haven/hotspot for players seeking to send a one way server wide radio message to anyone in possession of a radio tuned to the correct frequency? The game play possibilities could be very interesting to say the least. I myself would set up my own Chernarus radio station where I would play post apocalyptic style songs (fallout anyone?) and invite guests to appear on the show. Getting off point here but you can see where I'm going with this.

 

Of course the green mountain radio would need to be repaired, much like fixing a vehicle, and with the new presistance system, would have to maintained against bandits seeking to set a trap for un-suspecting players or sabotage the station. For me this system would be amazing on private hive servers. I could see a group of clanners in the future building a base around the station and maintaining a player guarded sanctuary for survivors, and a challenging targets for bandits. Again getting off point.

 

TL DR

 

Conclusion

 

So in summary and for those who cant read more than 4 lines:

Turn green mountain into a giant radio that needs to be repaired/maintained and is capable of broadcasting a one way chat to the entire map both vocal and text. Only players with radio's would be able to pick up the signal, and in case of a group of trolls gaining access to the station, one can simply switch of their radio, or change frequencies.

 

As a player myself who loves the vanilla experience of dayz and its realism, I feel that this idea can allow players to group up and/or add another goal for players on the map whether it be sinister or friendly, whilst not in any way sacrificing the isolated hardcore survival experience iv come to love about this game.

 

Discuss.

Edited August 22, 2015 by 97ADU Doug

[robophant 102]

I like!

Eat my beans!

[sausagekingofchicago 4711]

I really don't want to be a dick about it but that is essentially what they're doing, imo.   The global chat that will arrive first will be temporary, as explained by the devs (you can read this on the devtracker).  The devs have released images of additional hardware and info that include generators and radios that take up your backpack slot to transmit further. 

 

Good idea, no doubt, that has also has certainly been suggested before and even very likely in the works. Nearly everything needed for it is already in the game or in the process of being implemented.

 

I also see no reason why only Green Mountain would be needed to do this.  There are a number or towers a powered transmitter could broadcast from with it's range being restricted by the terrain.  Green Mountain would certainly have the best range assuming the generators could power it sufficiently.

[97ADU Doug 103]

I really don't want to be a dick about it but that is essentially what they're doing, imo.   The global chat that will arrive first will be temporary, as explained by the devs (you can read this on the devtracker).  The devs have released images of additional hardware and info that include generators and radios that take up your backpack slot to transmit further. 

 

Good idea, no doubt, that has also has certainly been suggested before and even very likely in the works. Nearly everything needed for it is already in the game or in the process of being implemented.

 

I also see no reason why only Green Mountain would be needed to do this.  There are a number or towers a powered transmitter could broadcast from with it's range being restricted by the terrain.  Green Mountain would certainly have the best range assuming the generators could power it sufficiently.

 

Sounds pretty cool, and most of that info is news to me.

 

 Happen to have a link to any of this?

 

Thxs

[sausagekingofchicago 4711]

Sounds pretty cool, and most of that info is news to me.

 

 Happen to have a link to any of this?

 

Thxs

 

http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/228086-status-report-18-aug-2015/

 

http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/228240-become-a-local-dj-with-this-awesome-pa-control-panel-connected-to-residential-loud-speakers/

https://trello.com/c/dHIsVr0z/71-voice-communication-assets

 

https://twitter.com/PeterNespesny/with_replies

 

 

Most of this is posted here on the devtracker, minus the replies.  Reddit, while not the best place to interact, is still a great source to find up to date Dev messages when out and about with your phone.

https://www.reddit.com/r/dayz/

 

(edit: then again, it's also all right here if you look in the right places)

Edited August 22, 2015 by SausageKingofChicago

[twr 43]

im pretty sure in the mod the radios located in ATC's served that exact purpose... they broadcasted longer ranges and anyone that still  had their radio they spawned with and on the channel could hear it.

 

disclaimer... i never played the mod, just remember one of my buddies talking about it. i could be wrong.

[QUAZIMOFO 275]

I didn't even read this, but had the same idea and posted it in the suggestion forum.

[☣BioHaze☣ 7337]

Your zombie apocalypse playlist?

 

Children of the Grave (Black Sabbath)

 

Down With The Sickness (Richard Cheese version)

 

Biotech is Godzilla (Sepultura)

 

Zomby Woof (Frank Zappa)

 

No Love Lost (Carcass)

 

Dead Embryonic Cells (Sepultura)

 

Last Stand of Humanity (Bolt Thrower)

 

We Don't Need Another Hero (Tina Turner)

 

Killing Yourself To Live (Black Sabbath)

 

Into the Void (Black Sabbath)

Edited August 22, 2015 by BioHaze

[sushimaster 6]

in case of a group of trolls gaining access to the station, one can simply switch of their radio, or change frequencies.

Or blow that !%*# up!

Edited August 23, 2015 by sushimaster

[pillock 850]

Your zombie apocalypse playlist?

 

It's The End Of The World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine)

[Steak and Potatoes 13480]

Your zombie apocalypse playlist?

 

Children of the Grave (Black Sabbath)

 

Down With The Sickness (Richard Cheese version)

 

Biotech is Godzilla (Sepultura)

 

Zomby Woof (Frank Zappa)

 

No Love Lost (Carcass)

 

Dead Embryonic Cells (Sepultura)

 

Last Stand of Humanity (Bolt Thrower)

 

We Don't Need Another Hero (Tina Turner)

 

Killing Yourself To Live (Black Sabbath)

 

Into the Void (Black Sabbath)

 

Just missing The Man Comes Around (Johnny Cash) ;).

[St. Jimmy 1631]

Your zombie apocalypse playlist?

I'd go for FallOut style. I once played with this playlist in the background.

[mercules 1290]

It's The End Of The World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine)

 

When the alternative station I listened to in college was bought out and forced to undergo a format change the staff put that song on repeat for the last 48 hours of the old station/format.

[Parazight 1599]

When the alternative station I listened to in college was bought out and forced to undergo a format change the staff put that song on repeat for the last 48 hours of the old station/format.

WLOL radio, iirc

Damn, that was 20 years ago! You must be old, too.

[Avant-Garde 229]

I'd go for FallOut style. I once played with this playlist in the background.

 

Video starts with Shanghai Shuffle from Fletcher Henderson Orchestra, I'll give my life to protect your radio station tbh, my sword is yours milord!

 

OP this is a glorious idea and a must when you think about it!

Edited August 24, 2015 by Avant-Garde

[KandyCid 30]

or there could be this and global chat..js..not everyone will figure the game out right away and might need help, i have a few friends that quit the game b/c of this..atp you have to go to steam every time u want to chat with a friend in game if you don't use team-speak..

 

BTW a whisper channel would be cool too in the chat, [[ you say chat is a magical oddity that takes away from the illusion of the apocalypse but then what about team-speak--u never chat with any 1 in game? its kinda contradicting the point your making by taking out global chat,  I don't play w/friends but a couple times a week and would get annoyed if i had to team up everyday with sum 1 but if you could whisper chat with your friends while in game it would be settling...also they have a mute/block button it wouldn't be an issue unless you didn't use it>>

 

This game has made more than enough money to give a chat system and talkies+ tbh there 2 completely different parts of the game and id love to see the tower come to life< maybe even allow the players to turn on the radios inside the houses and hear what is being said on the different walkie channels, maybe they use the same radio wave since its coming from the tower- your router and your cordless phone use the same frequency why couldn't a radio and a walkie...

 

anyways I like your idea but i disagree with you completely about the chat commands

Edited August 25, 2015 by KandyCid

[97ADU Doug 103]

or there could be this and global chat..js..not everyone will figure the game out right away and might need help, i have a few friends that quit the game b/c of this..atp you have to go to steam every time u want to chat with a friend in game if you don't use team-speak..

 

BTW a whisper channel would be cool too in the chat, [[ you say chat is a magical oddity that takes away from the illusion of the apocalypse but then what about team-speak--u never chat with any 1 in game? its kinda contradicting the point your making by taking out global chat,  I don't play w/friends but a couple times a week and would get annoyed if i had to team up everyday with sum 1 but if you could whisper chat with your friends while in game it would be settling...also they have a mute/block button it wouldn't be an issue unless you didn't use it>>

 

This game has made more than enough money to give a chat system and talkies+ tbh there 2 completely different parts of the game and id love to see the tower come to life< maybe even allow the players to turn on the radios inside the houses and hear what is being said on the different walkie channels, maybe they use the same radio wave since its coming from the tower- your router and your cordless phone use the same frequency why couldn't a radio and a walkie...

 

anyways I like your idea but i disagree with you completely about the chat commands

 

Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but the problem I have with many games currently is that they all try to cater to every possible customer. When Dayz mod first came out it broke this cycle and stood on its own as an enjoyable and grueling experience. Adding global chat would in my opinion be taking another step towards making dayz a more easy and user friendly experience, where its easy to pick up and easy to survive. My problem is that that's what every game tries to do. I bought dayz because its hard, messy intense and yes sometimes frustrating. But that's what makes it unique. When all these mods came out for dayz I completely stopped playing. 100+ vehicles, 24/7 daylight, global chat, safe zones, self blood bag, I could go all day. All these things made the game far too easy and took away from the hardcore and grueling experience I enjoyed.

 

The standalone promised to deliver on these fronts, and its what I hoped for when I invested my money into testing the game. So far the way development is going I'm happy to say its taking steps in all the right directions for me. But I disagree with you on global chat. Its just another step towards all those "make the game easy" mods that I detested so much.

 

Besides as you mentioned in your post, if your friends want to communicate that badly, just download ts3?

Edited August 25, 2015 by 97ADU Doug

[lrp1984 199]

or there could be this and global chat..js..not everyone will figure the game out right away and might need help, i have a few friends that quit the game b/c of this..atp you have to go to steam every time u want to chat with a friend in game if you don't use team-speak..

 

BTW a whisper channel would be cool too in the chat, [[ you say chat is a magical oddity that takes away from the illusion of the apocalypse but then what about team-speak--u never chat with any 1 in game? its kinda contradicting the point your making by taking out global chat,  I don't play w/friends but a couple times a week and would get annoyed if i had to team up everyday with sum 1 but if you could whisper chat with your friends while in game it would be settling...also they have a mute/block button it wouldn't be an issue unless you didn't use it>>

 

This game has made more than enough money to give a chat system and talkies+ tbh there 2 completely different parts of the game and id love to see the tower come to life< maybe even allow the players to turn on the radios inside the houses and hear what is being said on the different walkie channels, maybe they use the same radio wave since its coming from the tower- your router and your cordless phone use the same frequency why couldn't a radio and a walkie...

 

anyways I like your idea but i disagree with you completely about the chat commands

 

Any form of global communication should require the realism of holding a radio and having it tuned to the right frequency. The radio should also be audible to people around you, so if you're hiding in a house and your radio sparks up, people nearby have a chance to hear it.

 

I like the idea of the radio towers being able to transmit longer distances. There are towers around the map. I would say perhaps you could have radio relays, and the only way to transmit to the whole map would be to have control of green mountain and have a relay installed in one of the smaller towers in the north, south and east and west of the map as well. 

 

I strongly disagree with any form of global text or voice communication system that doesn't require the in-game item to use it. A global communication system would be a very simple thing to add to the game, the fact it doesn't exist at this stage fills me with hope that it never will.

[KandyCid 30]

thats great, i have my own teamspeak channel too, only 15$ a month..but whisper chat is a must for ppl who get tired of being in each others ears all the time, I play solo 90% og the time but during that time im in servers with ppl i know and would like to chat with them on the side hand. I don't have a passion to see world chat going but i'd love to see a whisper system put in. Like i said a side chat system and your idea are 2 completly different things> your talking about being able to talk to any1 with a walkie at all times using voice chat, are you not striving to be able to chat with everyone on the map that has a walkie talkie or do you just want this implimented so you can play music in ppls mics and get them killed when its turned on..

--we both agree world chat isn't important but will more than likely happen even though Bohemia has already made an epic amount of money and dosent need to cater to the Younger players but WE BOTH AGREE that we all need the whisper system and your transmition idea.  

have a cookie cookie i love you

 

[emuthreat 2837]

They should also add a fully operational bus, like with all the doors working and stuff.