Stable Branch - 0.55 Discussion

[SteenRNS 35]

Well, it's been a long time without a new stable version, and it got boring for most. We all know that our characters and loot will be wiped in the next patch, so we have no reason to build camps or plan ahead in Dayz. Also, the 0.57 version has quite a few improvements, most considerably in the survival and DIY department. Add to that some really nice guns + general improvements and you have a more desirable game. 

I think the zombies are like the weather system. They can be brought back in a patch without screwing everything up. For the time being we can just loot and build camps and figure out the new stuff. But to me, the devs are still doing some things wrong. For example: in the new patch we have the school building - but nothing spawns there. So why don't they release something like this, AFTER the dressing department has gone over and fixed this? I don't like these half-baked releases, and I hope 0.57 on stable will be the basis for future stable releases. First of all we need zombies back, then we'll see. 

But we cant build camps? Persistence off..

[smoq2 221]

*snip* For the time being we can just loot and build camps and figure out the new stuff. *snip*

 

Persistence will be disabled, so there is no way to build anything permanent, especially camps.

 

I understand why there is a need to remove zombies temporarily as well, but it basically leaves the player base with "looting and shooting" even more than in the initial release. I don't know if the player base can handle those cuttings any more. I personally wasn't moved when players started leaving, it was when the servers started shutting down and entire communities with members counted in hundreds were disbanding that I got seriously worried about the future of this game.

 

DayZ was first designed with a very niche player group in mind, then it escalated to a sort of mass audience product and expanded the project's scope, and now it's slowly shifting back to the dedicated niche, but the much larger scope of things to do remained.

 

Will this be enough to maintain the game when it reaches the planned release date? I don't know... But something rubs me the wrong way very much when I look at this game...

Edited June 8, 2015 by retro19

[voxframe 31]

I can understand the zombies being off temporarily. That doesn't detract from the gameplay THAT much. There are still threats-a-plenty out there.

 

But the persistance... I'd rather wait for this to be activated.

 

With both off, it leaves the player with squat to do. It will be similar to the very beginning of DayZ where it was just run and gun.

 

Stuff like disabiling these mechanisms mid-development should only happen on exp. Stable should not see this kind of stuff. If it means waiting, I'd rather wait.

[aasand 92]

Well, they need to start speeding things up. They are losing their advantage fast

[barnabus 1708]

Can someone tell me why everyone is so hyped about the next stable patch? Persistence and zombies will be off on all servers?

One word, balancing.  A lot of new stuff is coming in, especially with loot distribution and spawning.  It will give players a breather that will make .58 even better.  I imagine .58 will bring back zeds and/or persistence and they will be even better.  Believe me, you're gonna need some time to get used to .57 without dealing with zeds and persistence.  That said, I know what the devs have said, yet in experimental, we still have zeds and persistence on.

Edited June 8, 2015 by Barnabus

[Thumper1999 48]

dont worry people the loot will be fixed next stable update. ;)

[Wh1spY 110]

Stable should not see this kind of stuff.

Why? Stable is just a more stable version of the exp patch, without major bugs etc etc. You are talking about the devs destroying the gameplay, forget about the gameplay, stable is NOT the game as it's supposed to be in its final state., you are still TESTING this game, and your job is to tell the devs whether the content that's on stable, is good, what bugs are still there, what should be changed. You are supposed to TEST the content that are given to you, nothing more. If the patch actually is playable, consider it as a huge bonus.

If you are NOT reporting any bugs, giving them tips on what should be changed, etc etc, you do not have the right to complain about anything.

 

All people complaining seems to forget this..

 

The devs should stop try to please the whole community, and focus more on the actual testing, so this is a step in the right direction.

Edited June 9, 2015 by Wh1spY

[Karakoz 141]

I reinstalled DayZ for 0.57. I spawned with the few stuff I had from some time ago, including my beloved AK101 and a gas canister in the hands. I went to the North West village where there used to be no zombie. I thought that zombies had been removed from the game but a stupid zombie attacked me. I tried to open the bloody door that was right in front of me, but stupid started drinking the gas canister. I couldn't move. It took only 3 shot for the infected to kill me. I'm uninstalling the game once again.

[hekp 223]

Thanks for sharing this awesome experience with us.

 

First off, you probably meant 0.55 (unless they didn't bother wiping your character), which is live for like two months and you didn't know there are zombies?

You failed to use the "use" command properly and start drinking your own gas - ever thought of pressing "F" again to cancel the animation?

Also, the zombie 3 hit killed you because you were either already beaten up, or you divided the number of hits by 10.

 

yeah, stupid game, do unistall...

Edited June 9, 2015 by halp

[Karakoz 141]

1. You not understand. I reinstalled for 0.57 because it's supposed to be released tomorrow. I haven't played for quite some time, and in Status report 15 they said: "we'll be disabling infected spawning on stable branch servers". So I thought that infected were indeed disabled. Did I miss a report?
2. Pressing F won't cancel the canister drinking animation. I tried.
3. I was killed in 2 or 3 hits, no more. My blood was in good condition and I was healthy. Moreover the stupid bugged zombie spawned in my back without a sound.

Edited June 9, 2015 by Karakoz

[OrganGrinder 89]

If you are NOT reporting any bugs, giving them tips on what should be changed, etc etc, you do not have the right to complain about anything.

 

 

I agree with most of the sentiment in your post but I hate hearing this inflammatory, self-congratulatory crap.  You hear the same thing with voting (at least here in the US):  "If you didn't vote in the last election then you don't have the right to complain about the current president."  

 

Bullshit!  As a citizen I have the right to complain about anything I want regarding civics regardless of my level of participation -- just like as a purchaser of DayZ I have the right to complain about the development process even if I don't report issues.

 

The real point is that, within this forum, we all have the right to voice our opinions AND tell other people we don't like or agree with their opinions.  So you're doing a great job....  Just don't turn it into dogmatic rants that redefine the rules in your vision please.  It diminishes us all.

[hekp 223]

 

You not understand. I reinstalled for 0.57 because it's supposed to be released tomorrow. I haven't played for quite some time, and in Status report 15 they said: "we'll be disabling infected spawning on stable branch servers". So I thought that infected were indeed disabled. Did I miss a report?

 

You are mixing up Experimental branch and Stable. I understand it can get confusing since we skipped the 056 and lots of things were said during that time :)

 

Silent zombies are in 0.55 since day one, they only reversed the loot spawning due to CLE being bugged.

When 057 does hit stable there will be a global wipe, so don't stress yourself too much about losing your character :)

 

As for the zombies, they were removed in some exp. builds and they said they will be removed for the 057 time being.

They were added in a few builds later on so Im not 100% sure if it still sticks to that.

Edited June 9, 2015 by halp

[Karakoz 141]

You are mixing up Experimental branch and Stable. I understand it can get confusing since we skipped the 056 and lots of things were said during that time :)

 

Silent zombies are in 0.55 since day one, they only reversed the loot spawning due to CLE being bugged.

When 057 does hit stable there will be a global wipe, so don't stress yourself too much about losing your character :)

 

As for the zombies, they were removed in some exp. builds and they said they will be removed for the 057 time being.

They were added in a few builds later on so Im not 100% sure if it still sticks to that.

The status report was clear: "we'll be disabling infected spawning on STABLE branch servers." So I expected that there would be no zombies on the server. Apparently zombies were never removed, or they were removed for a few days.

[OrganGrinder 89]

The status report was clear: "we'll be disabling infected spawning on STABLE branch servers." So I expected that there would be no zombies on the server. Apparently zombies were never removed, or they were removed for a few days.

 

Read this: "we'll be disabling..." as "We will be disabling..."... as in the future...  when they finally release 0.57 to stable.  They clearly have not done so yet.

 

If you think we all have it wrong then I suggest you post a link to the report you are referencing so we can all work from the same source of information and agree on what has actually happened.

[haven923 65]

Anyone else have their client freeze when they try joining a foreign server?  I've validated files three times and uninstalled/reinstalled twice, I also changed my anti-spyware protection program.  t didn't do this before .55.  I have a report open and a thread in the support forum, but I haven't had any responses for a few days now...

[jiggyjoe 43]

I agree with most of the sentiment in your post but I hate hearing this inflammatory, self-congratulatory crap.  You hear the same thing with voting (at least here in the US):  "If you didn't vote in the last election then you don't have the right to complain about the current president."

 

Bullshit!  As a citizen I have the right to complain about anything I want regarding civics regardless of my level of participation -- just like as a purchaser of DayZ I have the right to complain about the development process even if I don't report issues.

 

The real point is that, within this forum, we all have the right to voice our opinions AND tell other people we don't like or agree with their opinions.  So you're doing a great job....  Just don't turn it into dogmatic rants that redefine the rules in your vision please.  It diminishes us all.

Usually, a good way to reply to what you mentionned is : Since you paid for the product, you have actually any rights to voice your opinion, as long as it's made with respect !

As for the voting statement, the same goes haha, if you pay taxes and crap, you have the same rights than any other good voting citizen ! 

Back to topic, servers are up for the latest update ? (Currently updating)

[Zboub le météor 250]

Usually, a good way to reply to what you mentionned is : Since you paid for the product, you have actually any rights to voice your opinion, as long as it's made with respect !

As for the voting statement, the same goes haha, if you pay taxes and crap, you have the same rights than any other good voting citizen ! 

Back to topic, servers are up for the latest update ? (Currently updating)

 

around 19h00 Prague time ;)

[jiggyjoe 43]

so in less than 2 hours, damn it ! Always when i have almost no time to spend playing that i have to wait haha ! 

*Sorry if my english can be bad haha !

[Karakoz 141]

I'm redownloading the shitty game, but if me or my stuff get raped by a bugged zombie I will ragequit again.

[deadjuice 64]

I'm redownloading the shitty game, but if me or my stuff get raped by a bugged zombie I will ragequit again.

Wait.

Edited June 10, 2015 by Deadjuice

[boneboys 7988]

Goodbye 0 fiftyfive.