I'm not one that criticize's early access games but...

[azgoodaz 9]

I'm not one that criticize's early access games but can you please release more daily or weekly updates? I've heard from people that you guys are creating a 'new engine' for DayZ SA because with Arma 2.5 it just has FPS, desync, and server bugs/glitches (dont quote me on that). From that being said, any ETA on that release? Are you even working on it or are you waiting for the "Beta" release? Which lets face it, DayZ SA is still in very early alpha stage, where its not even near early Beta.

 

Since the day DayZ Mod has been created and released a trend of zombie games came out. And now a trend for mmo zombie games are now coming out. Yes, there will still be there "true" DayZ fan base that will still play the game. But if you guys can release more daily or weekly updates rather than just one a week, then people can have a little more hope for the game. For example, H1Z1... since the release of that game they are on non stop train at releasing updates almost everyday.. if not every other day because of delays from bugs/glitches. And also how about interacting with the community a bit more on Facebook, Twitter, etc..? Answer simple but in-depth questions that people ask you guys.

 

With that being said also, STOP MAKING USELESS ITEMS! For example, clothes? Why are you creating them if people arent even going to use them? Rather than having 5 guys work on clothes, how about putting them to work on the 'new engine' or even working on game/server side issues with FPS, desync, and server bugs/glitches.

 

Devs, if you are reading this. Put more effort into this game that you guys built from a Mod to a full standalone game. If you dont have any passion for this game, why are you working on it in the first place?

[DURRHUNTER 597]

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give them some time, this game has a large roadmap that spans a year or two. Clothes are useful, we wear them, and put items in them. Plus the Art team doesnt want to spend all of their time making guns now do they? plus you may think clothes are useless but they make rags which make bandages, splints, etc...

The game is engine is slowly being updated piece by piece.

Edited January 21, 2015 by DURRHUNTER

[jimbo_swe 27]

Here we go again. Another unsatisfied player who thinks art team should switch to programming.

[azgoodaz 9]

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give them some time, this game has a large roadmap that spans a year or two. Clothes are useful, we wear them, and put items in them. Plus the Art team doesnt want to spend all of their time making guns now do they? plus you may think clothes are useless but they make rags which make bandages, splints, etc...

The game is engine is slowly being updated piece by piece.

 

What was the gif suppose to be in response to? "Haters gonna Hate"?

 

How I'm I hating the game? I'm stating the facts that most people are scared to write in a discussion post. No one wants to have a voice, so I took it into my own hands and had my voice heard for my point of view on how the game is standing at the moment.

Edited January 21, 2015 by azgoodaz

[OrLoK 16185]

Hello there

 

Do a little bit of research. Youll find all of your questions have been answered in depth in these forums as well as elsewhere and also how fundamentally incorrect about many aspects you are.

 

I understand some of you qualms from a laymans point of view, but development does not work in the way you imagine it to in a decently organised studio.

 

Rgds

 

LoK

Edited January 21, 2015 by orlok

[chickenmcfuggits 49]

A couple things that I probably won't elaborate much on, even though I'm just a lowly helicopter hunter not related to anything:

 

1) I personally have absolutely no problem with BI taking their time, sometimes it takes patience and time to do things right and from the little I know about programming, art and developing games it is indeed one of those things. Also, DayZ in "alpha" stage is damn near the quality of "beta" stage of many other games.

 

2) Those "other" *cough* H1Z1 *cough* games are using absolutely horrible business models and are being made by a studio *cough* SOE *cough* that is known to be greedy and forsake their playerbase for a dollar.

 

3) There are actually other people on the forums begging for more clothes and useless flair items, believe it or not.

[DURRHUNTER 597]

What was the gif suppose to be in response to? "Haters gonna Hate"?

 

How I'm I hating the game? I'm stating the facts that most people are scared to write in a discussion post. No one wants to have a voice, so I took it into my own hands and had my voice heard for my point of view on how the game is standing at the moment.

you are critizing the beautiful work of the dev team by saying they "dont have any passion for the game" and "STOP MAKING USELESS ITEMS!" everything put into the game so far has a purpose.

Do not speak of H1Z1 in comparison to BI and the DayZ dev team, they have tons of more money and resources than the DayZ dev team and BI could ever fathom.

[TheRicktator44 6]

I think it's still too early on for the DayZ early access for them to be putting out more than an update a week, for a small studio to be doing even that is pretty impressive. Especially when you consider that the updates occasionally break things, and then that needs to be addressed. So figure they updated all the time, things would start to break maybe immediately but maybe not, all of a sudden its a week or two later and you're not sure with patch broke what. I feel like maybe part of doing weekly is that you have it come out, see the aftermath and give yourself a little bit of time to tweak and fix things before they go and potentially break it again next week lol.

 

To the point of the clothes, while I understand how it would seem if they were pulling important resources off, but the dev even stated in one of the recent patch notes not to worry about that. The clothing is only being done by artists when they're not needed for the main updates, which makes sense, the clothing system is already in place all they would be doing is making new models of the clothing ya know? peanuts compared to the main work they're doing lol.

 

Lastly, I wouldn't call the developers out for not having a passion for their game when you don't even know what kind of hours they may be putting in, issues they have to deal with and things of that nature. Plus you have to understand how massive of an undertaking this game is for any studio let alone one that isn't exactly a gigantic powerhouse. There is so much more that goes into a game of this nature than just your typical FPS where all you have to worry about are tight controls, hit detection, and graphics. Now you throw the mmo nature, the fact it's built off the back off a mod, and alllllll the other elements that are involved in making this game what it is, it's going to be a work in progress and possibly a long one but you can't honestly say you haven't enjoyed the game and you only spent what? 20-30$ right? The game is only going to improve so give it some time to grow, I feel like there is a really great game here and we just need to support the devs and give good constructive criticism to help improve the game moving forward.

[jimbo_swe 27]

Please go make some research before you post crap like this. If you don't know anything about how game developing works, don't tell other people what to do.

[narchy 63]

What was the gif suppose to be in response to? "Haters gonna Hate"?

 

How I'm I hating the game? I'm stating the facts that most people are scared to write in a discussion post. No one wants to have a voice, so I took it into my own hands and had my voice heard for my point of view on how the game is standing at the moment.

 

Your misinformed opinions are not facts.

 

You see yourself as some sort of brave voice for the silent majority, but you've just made yourself look silly.

[azgoodaz 9]

Hello there

 

Do a little bit of research. Youll find all of your questions have been answered in depth in these forums as well as elsewhere and also how fundamentally incorrect about many aspects you are.

 

I understand some of you qualms from a laymans point of view, but development does not work in the way you imagine it to in a decently organised studio.

 

Rgds

 

LoK

 

 

"but development does not work in the way you imagine it to in a decently organised studio." Organzied, but you guys only release once a week updates? From how I see it, all the devs on the team are losing hope and passion for the game they made. They either need to let go some of the people or hire some new people.

[Calvin Candie 189]

Imho

3 things are vital:

1. New engine

2. New zombie AI

3. Persistence

When we see improvement in any of these 3 areas people will stop complaining like the OP.

Until then, be patient. I am also frustrated and those weekly dev reports make me laugh. Talk about selling balls as kindeys.

But I dont know anything about programing so what can I do. I suppose wait. :P

Good luck devs, and good job so far...I suppose... :P ;)

[St. Jimmy 1631]

I'm not one that criticize's early access games but can you please release more daily or weekly updates?

Scroll down and you'll see weekly updates what's going on from the last summer http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/forum/134-developer-discussion-status-reports/

[Tatanko 5591]

"but development does not work in the way you imagine it to in a decently organised studio." Organzied, but you guys only release once a week updates? From how I see it, all the devs on the team are losing hope and passion for the game they made. They either need to let go some of the people or hire some new people.

You. Have. No. Idea. What. You're. Talking. About.

 

Please just shut up and go play something else.

[kichilron 8550]

The information is out there and it has been said multiple times by the Devs how the updates are going to work.

 

The Status Updates are weekly, the updates won't be. The Devs have spread the information that they're going to publish an update every month and there have been two major updates at a quick rate just before Christmas. This isn't even a month ago, so we're still on schedule.

 

As far as your demands are that they should stop making clothes and instead fix things. That's not how it works and this has been repeated multiple times.

 

Designers do not do the programming.

 

Locked, as I will see this going downhill way more than it already has.

 

Not to mention that you don't seem to be knowing what you're talking about:

 

From how I see it, all the devs on the team are losing hope and passion for the game they made. They either need to let go some of the people or hire some new people.

But you're most likely the best to judge that. From Florida.

Edited January 21, 2015 by kichilron

[SmashT 10907]

A few points.

 

When DayZ started - the devs took the source from the existing RV Engine - Over the last many months, extensive clean up, new functionality, and so forth has been created for that engine - while at the same time, vast amounts of it were removed, or rewritten entirely. The changes spoken of entail major leaps forward in that work, with those changes and the many more that will come through out development - we have begun to approach the point in which DayZ's engine is so no longer recognizable as RV, and because of that - and the massive work to come, it is now known by its own name, Enfusion. This will come in a modular fashion over time, DayZ won't just suddenly switch to a different engine overnight.

 

For example: AI, pathfinding, animation system, controls, interactions system, inventory system, physics, vehicles, sound system, low level scripting language, game editor, renderer, particle system, user interface, statistics, database handling, persistence, central economy and so. Basically nearly every part of the engine is undergoing refactoring, is merged in from one of the previous engines or is written from scratch. Some of the modules have timelines of 8-16months. And only than you start bringing in the rest. 

 

The developers have recently started doing focused discussions on a variety of topics on these forums if you wish to ask more in-depth questions related to those topics.

 

You can't throw artists and designers at a programming issues (since you claim to be "in-game development" yourself , I'm surprised I have to explain this to you), different people are working on different things at the same time, doing what they are good at. It could take months for some core functionality to be completed by a programmer before it can be handed off to a designer, in the mean time they have people working on other stuff while they wait for that core functionality to be completed. Things aren't held back so they can be released in order of priority. If something is completed it is put in the game. Often the high priority tasks can take longer than the lower priority ones. The game isn't being held back so that artists can make more clothes etc.

 

All of the guys here are in this industry for a long time. And have insane backgrounds with passion for the game. They are not creating a port of the mod, they are making a DayZ that is not plagued by tech or limitations. They are making a game you wished for. All your support just made it possible. They want it more than anyone.