Persistently boring empty servers.

[ryanincalgary 20]

I know this is just a beta but is anyone else slightly annoyed and bored with persistent servers? Helicopters don't spawn on most of them or if they do they're invisible. Almost all the buildings are empty. I've been running around for the last couple weeks and the best weapon I've found is an sks with a worn scope. I think my last straw was after a server reset on a low pop server, no one rejoined. I spent about 2 hours hitting every military base in the west and didn't find a single mag or akm. Not even gear like vests and helmets which weren't damaged.

 

Today I hop on a persistent disabled server with about 10-15 players on it and it's like the candy land of weapons and gear. An hour hitting just three military bases in the SW and I'm kitted out with a pristine AKM worn PSO-1 scope, drum mag and a couple hundred rounds of ammo. I saw at least 4 AKM's, a AK 101 and a AK 74. Finally found a pristine vest and a Gorka helmet. I even found two crash sites, the american one was already looted except a grenade, the Russian one had a 30 round mag for the akm.

 

So what's the deal? Do you think people on persistent servers are just sucking up the guns and ammo in tents hidden in the woods so the server thinks it has plenty of stuff already available? Is it just a terrible loot table, problems with a couple servers or are more people having this same experience?

[Weyland Yutani (DayZ) 1159]

I know this is just a beta but is anyone else slightly annoyed and bored with persistent servers?

 

So what's the deal?

1) This isn't a beta, its an alpha.

 

2) DayZ is about interaction, not loot.

[ruax 32]

1) This isn't a beta, its an alpha.

 

2) DayZ is about interaction, not loot.

Don't think I could agree any less... Interacting in dayz is stupid and just gets either side hurt or killed, better just survive and shoot on sight most of the times. 

[Krawallkurt 118]

Where is the fun when you find all you need in one session? I get bored when i have everything. Ohh great...Endgame loot. What to do now???? But we all can play this game the way we want ...Thats what makes it this good!

[blacklabel79 949]

Durp...things are still easy to find even on persistance.

 

*has fond Memory of the great "applewars" back in.48? on exp.

 

 

Alas, it will stay like this for a bit i guess.

[acdc_bag 32]

You're on the wrong persistent servers, most of them have 10x or more the loot they should. That's been going on since at least .49 and exists still.

[Nebulae3 422]

yeah, I agree. 

[Weyland Yutani (DayZ) 1159]

Don't think I could agree any less... Interacting in dayz is stupid and just gets either side hurt or killed, better just survive and shoot on sight most of the times. 

So you think its beta too? If you weren't responding to the entire post, don't reply to the entire post. Take the 2 nano-seconds to edit if you want to be taken seriously.

 

Regarding point #2: You're the type of player the community at large doesn't need. Hope you quit soon and have a Merry Christmas!  :)

[Maia (DayZ) 93]

The majority of persistent servers are pretty boring. It does seems like people usually hop onto non-persist servers and gear up then either hide in the woods or hunt fresh spawns/bandits. The non-persist servers on the other hand are dangerous lately. In my experience thus far, non-persist servers are usually heavily populated by people looking for military loot/netting/gear and the only people I've come across are KOS or are betrayers looking for loot (more specifically, your loot). I like both persist (lack of loot/realism) and non-persist (more interaction/people not hiding) but hopefully they'll fix loot respawning and helicopter crashes soon which will balance out the player base among the two types.

 

This is just my 2 cents. Obviously we are in Alpha and the game mechanics (loot distribution, persistence, etc) aren't nearly done and I try to look at the positives of both server types rather than the negatives for the time being.

Edited December 11, 2014 by Maia

[treetop82 59]

If helo crashes spawned on persistent servers I would have no reason to join the nonpersistent ones.

[VermillionX 78]

I play on a 40-player persistent server. It's great. Always has at least 25 players at any one time and you rarely get KoS'd.

There's enough loot to be worth playing, but not enough that I actually need to look for it.

 

All the complaints seem to be coming from lazy players who raid the coastal town they spawn in for some canned food, then sprint straight to the nearest military base, ignoring every town and house along the way, then rage when they find the military base empty (As is expected on a Persistent Server) and then blame it on persistence. The same people complain that they're dying of cold or their shoes are wearing out too fast or that they can't find common balaclavas.

Wear some goddamn civilian clothes! Raid EVERY house you find. Ignore the military bases until you're fully geared in good quality civilian clothing or just happen to stumble across one. You find the best items in ordinary houses and people usually haven't emptied all of them. You can even sometimes find decent military clothing in civilian buildings. I've found plenty of military boots, gorka helms and ballistic helmets in coastal town barns.

Edited December 12, 2014 by VermillionX

[rybec 339]

1) This isn't a beta, its an alpha.

 

2) DayZ is about interaction, not loot.

The 'interaction' in DayZ is plugging people at first sight.

[Killawife 599]

The reason theres no loot on persistent server are two-fold, firstly everythings picked clean in hard to reach places(if you know what I mean nudge nudge) and the new spawn of loot system is fucked, hence the Lootapalooza at military bases and such. I went to myshkino military base y-day and there was enormous amounts of crappy loot everywhere and a hundred SKS:es. Then went to green mountain and theres was nothing but a turnip.

[Weyland Yutani (DayZ) 1159]

The 'interaction' in DayZ is plugging people at first sight.

Neh.

 

If that's what you're doing, you're doing it wrong. DayZ has so much more potential than to be pigeonholed as a McShooter.

Edited December 12, 2014 by Weyland Yutani

[rybec 339]

Neh.

 

If that's what you're doing, you're doing it wrong. DayZ has so much more potential that to be pigeonholed as a McShooter.

I've made friends ingame that I've been talking to on TS for over a year.

I'm saying that's what nearly all of the interaction in the game is.

[Weyland Yutani (DayZ) 1159]

I'm saying that's what nearly all of the interaction in the game is.

Nearly? Maybe for you, not for everyone.

[CJ_14 105]

I know this is just a beta but is anyone else slightly annoyed and bored with persistent servers? Helicopters don't spawn on most of them or if they do they're invisible. Almost all the buildings are empty. I've been running around for the last couple weeks and the best weapon I've found is an sks with a worn scope. I think my last straw was after a server reset on a low pop server, no one rejoined. I spent about 2 hours hitting every military base in the west and didn't find a single mag or akm. Not even gear like vests and helmets which weren't damaged.

 

Today I hop on a persistent disabled server with about 10-15 players on it and it's like the candy land of weapons and gear. An hour hitting just three military bases in the SW and I'm kitted out with a pristine AKM worn PSO-1 scope, drum mag and a couple hundred rounds of ammo. I saw at least 4 AKM's, a AK 101 and a AK 74. Finally found a pristine vest and a Gorka helmet. I even found two crash sites, the american one was already looted except a grenade, the Russian one had a 30 round mag for the akm.

 

So what's the deal? Do you think people on persistent servers are just sucking up the guns and ammo in tents hidden in the woods so the server thinks it has plenty of stuff already available? Is it just a terrible loot table, problems with a couple servers or are more people having this same experience?

 

I have NEVER had any problem with loot since the persistence was enabled

[Dagwood 680]

As someone else said, struggling to find the best gear is what keeps you moitivated to survive. The fact that it took you hours to find that sks with PU scope means that it'll be that much more tragic when you lose it. That kitted AKM you found in an hour cost you little to obtain, and will not be as painful to part with.

If having the best equipment for pvp is your goal, why not try arma wasteland or even epoch? Those games are catered around giving players an easy road to obtaining what they want. Dayz is supposed to be the opposite of that

[ruax 32]

So you think its beta too? If you weren't responding to the entire post, don't reply to the entire post. Take the 2 nano-seconds to edit if you want to be taken seriously.

 

Regarding point #2: You're the type of player the community at large doesn't need. Hope you quit soon and have a Merry Christmas!  :)

Excuse me? :D You obviously know what I was refering to, but I guess you need to act bit dumb! I don't really get why but yeah...And you seem to be a bit of a dick and inmature so I would say you are whats not needed. Bye. :)

Also just to inform your head in a box, not everyone likes to meet and talk to people over a game, why bother talking to people who 50% of the time does not even have microphone over a game when you can just go outside in real life if you want to talk to someone? ;=) Maybe some like, some others won't obviously. You seem to think that its wrong to not want interactions tho? Wich I think is stupid. There is no correct or wrong way to play Dayz SA its a sandbox game you are free to do whatever you like in the limits of the game.

Edited December 12, 2014 by Lindecrantz1

[boneboys 7988]

Everybody knows that the loot tables/persistence is WIP !

Why are you arguing about nothing (OP) ?

 

Stop with the bickering already.

[DocWolf 146]

Everybody knows that the loot tables/persistence is WIP !

Why are you arguing about nothing (OP) ?

He's not really "arguing about nothing".

Everything is "WIP" or "placeholder" or "under revision" or "waiting an update". If we don't discuss about features, mechanics and so on just because the developers are working on them what we should use this forum for? Just to express joy for the new experimental build or the beautifulness of Chernarus forests?

OP has a point, even if he's grossly mistaken on the beta thing. Somehow, however, he's right nonethless: persistence IS a problem, loot tables AREN'T working and all this REALLY give players a pretty boring/unsatisfying playing experience. It's pretty legit, from a customer point of view, pointing out that yes the game is still WIP and yes, it's well-know that it's not a finished product but nonethless the current state of one of the core mechanics of the game itself is a sale and hype killer.

On a side note, just to mitigate the doom and gloom: on persistent and non-persistent servers people seriously need to re-learn how to loot. Spawn locations of some items has been changed, and lots of areas/buildings are overlooked just because in previous builds there was no or crappy loot in them...somehow I can always found food and clothes in certain houses, for example, and seemingly no-one look for splitting axes in wooden tool sheds...Even on high-traffic coastal towns.

[Weyland Yutani (DayZ) 1159]

why bother talking to people who 50% of the time does not even have microphone over a game when you can just go outside in real life if you want to talk to someone? ;=) Maybe some like, some others won't obviously.

Thats why they invented a cool thing called typing. If they don't have a mic, they can read type…try it out! 

[Tatanko 5591]

DayZ is about interaction, not loot.

Exactly. I believe the devs themselves have even said as much. Anyone who disagrees is playing the wrong game.

[jubeidok 495]

Of course it's going to get boring...there's no fucking zombies!

[ruax 32]

Thats why they invented a cool thing called typing. If they don't have a mic, they can read type…try it out! 

Don't get me wrong, I do have a mic, just saying 50% of the people doesn't and the interactions aren't as fun as some people say they are.. In my opinion.