Stable - 0.51 Discussion

[deniz0790 42]

so yeah i died 3 times in 3 hours of playing everytime when i was equipped again 

 

EVERY TIME because of a crash to desktop and fallng into death while i was relogging, because my char just continued running

 

stable is really not stable for me at the moment

[majkel86 16]

So I figured out how to tell if a server is persistant or not in game, no matter what the name implies. If you are on the coast and are finding what used to be the normal amount of food and loot then the server is non persistant. Especially if you find several fire axes, that is a dead ass give away.

They should add seperate filter in to the server browser for private shards and peristance on/off servers.

[Tatanko 5591]

They should add seperate filter in to the server browser for private shards and peristance on/off servers.

Additional filter options are something they definitely need to add, preferably sooner than later. I want to see the ability to use more filter options simultaneously as well. For example: I currently cannot arrange by both 1st/3rd Person and server time; I have to choose one or the other.

[anddos 37]

why can you make a fire even tho its been raining?, doesnt the trees get wet or something?

[Tatanko 5591]

The experimentalprep depot was just updated on Steam. Don't want to let myself get too excited, but... :)

 

https://steamdb.info/app/221100/

[OrganGrinder 89]

Perhaps your buddy is keeping secrets from you? I would sleep with one eye open, from now on!!!

 

You know, there was that one time he killed a friend's char who was being a PIA.  Of course, I was thinking of doing the same thing, lol.

[blackberrygoo 1416]

I can't wait for new experimental patch :) let's all kumbaya and hope it comes today !

[☣BioHaze☣ 7337]

To those complaining of CTD.

 

I had constant CTD problems with .45 and my problem was fixed in later updates.

 

Have some faith/patience and it will pay off!

[thebaddestass 23]

Lol the reason for writing that quote was to show that there was about 5-7 of you in the past five pages that don't get the fact that there's nothing we can do to help you(although I tried helping , but one of you decided to assume I was trying to insult them) .

I suggested 1337 should validate his game files, simply becAuse my friend did that and his dayz .51 stable doesn't crash for a couple days til he has to do it again , I mentioned he (my friend) had a terrible computer and 1337 ASSUMED I was telling him that it must be his computer , this is NOT what I said nor what was meant .. And if you truly had been "keeping up" with this discussion you would have known that and not decided to defend someone so eager to attack others over an alpha video game that is BOUND to have crashes ...

We are not denying at all that there are ctds this patch or any patch for that matter, I simply tried to help 1337 and the reality is there's no memory leak , there's no game breaking bug that's causing this , so all you can do is log a bug tracker post (and don't listen to whover said thy they are futile , they DO WORK , how else would we have gotten through all those other patches that were riddled with CTDs lawl ?) .

So , lastly I want you to know that you assumed just like 1337 , I was trying to help the kid but when he assumed that I was saying it was his PC (which again I never said) he got all flustered and decided to throw insults around .. Now tell me how is that helpful ? We all know there are ctds , so please go log a post in the bug tracker and move on with your life , that's all you can do and anymore fighting on this discussion won't help you .. So do what everyone else including Myself has told you two to do , validate files , if that doesn't work there's a whole page of things you can do that could resolve ctds (that I won't bother linking seeing as you've been watching the forums so you should have no trouble finding them as someone posted the link just recently ) and if that doesn't work then like I said to some other guy, right after 1337 personally insulted me : sorry bud but all that will help you is patience :) .

 

I am not defending anyone on this forum.  I personally don't know anyone on here.  If you were "keeping up" and reading what I said you would see that I said everyone I know doesn't even come on these forums or read them.  I am simply posting as the vast majority of the Dayz community is crashing with this stable build, hands down.  And too many folks are on here defending the game and saying that isn't happening when it in fact truly is.

 

Nor did I assume you were trying to help the "kid" as you called him.  Again, I am here to simply let everyone know that this isn't a 1 off scenario, nor is it a fluke or only a small minority that is crashing in this build.  It is a vast majority and something is broken in the game that is causing ALL of these crashes on a huge majority of players.

 

 

 

Yes but this time most of the crashes has nothing to do with hardware. If it does it's something critical such as "all windows 8 users" or "all nvidia users". Since I see that every time I crash and relog, halv of the server disconnected and I can see how they all pop in again. It can't just be a coincident where me and my friends crashes at the same time, not just once but several times.

 

I'll send a report in "feedback" but I've never got any response from there, and they could make it more responsive.

Make a "feedback" thread where you update the most common problems and your theory and solution for them? It would encourage alot of more people to actually give feedback.

 

I guess they are busy designing a new melee weapon since we don't have enough. What about an ingame dildo you could use as a melee weapon, or maybe a chair you can use as a melee weapon, wrestling style. Or spend more time modelling real life persons as ingame characters? Could you please do Gandalf next?

 

It happened to us again last night hax.  3 of us in the same server ALL crashed at the exact same time.  In a matter of 5 hours of play time, I crashed 7 times.  Again, never crashed in this game EVER, before .51.

 

This looks like something server side that freaks out and crashes multiple clients at the same time.  I'm not going to say it isn't hardware related to the PC's, but it sure seems like it isn't at all, seems like some serious server side issues causing them.

 

 

Onto exp.

 

I hope this exp is being delayed with trying to fix or lessen the number of CTD's.  Would make me very happy as I have had multiple friends die because of CTD's.  When you CTD, your character keeps running in the direction you were running when crash happened.  So one ran through wall in novo tower, one ran through the rocks in SVET and is stuck in them when he logs back in, can't get out.  Zombies rape you while you walk away and aren't really there to kill them cause you CTD.

Edited December 12, 2014 by TheBaddestAss

[RosscoMac 75]

It's weird all these CTDs and glitches people are getting with this stable as I have had none and am ready and was hoping for an exp update today. But if stable is a f**ked as some people are saying then I guess that's why we have no exp yet.

[Tatanko 5591]

But if stable is a f**ked as some people are saying then I guess that's why we have no exp yet.

The current state of Stable doesn't have any relation to not having an Experimental yet. I'm not sure how you came up with that association. If something entirely new is ready for Experimental, they'll release it on Experimental. If they are doing a hotfix to Stable (which there is no indication of anywhere) then they generally just do internal testing and then push it to Stable; rarely does Experimental get thrown into that process. The Experimental branch is primarily to test out new things, not little fixes. Stable being 100% bug-free also isn't a necessary qualifier for Experimental to receive a new build.

Edited December 12, 2014 by Tatanko

[RosscoMac 75]

The current state of Stable doesn't have any relation to not having an Experimental yet. I'm not sure how you came up with that association. If something entirely new is ready for Experimental, they'll release it on Experimental. If they are doing a hotfix to Stable (which there is no indication of anywhere) then they generally just do internal testing and then push it to Stable; rarely does Experimental get thrown into that process. The Experimental branch is primarily to test out new things, not little fixes. Stable being 100% bug-free also isn't a necessary qualifier for Experimental to receive a new build.

 

I came up with that association because the post above mine mentioned experimental being delayed to fix current crashes in stable.

 

To me it seems quite reasonable that if stable is a mess then they would devote time and people to fixing that, which is time and people that would otherwise have been working on a new experimental release.

[blackberrygoo 1416]

I came up with that association because the post above mine mentioned experimental being delayed to fix current crashes in stable.

To me it seems quite reasonable that if stable is a mess then they would devote time and people to fixing that, which is time and people that would otherwise have been working on a new experimental release.

Believing something over one post isn't a good habit to get into .. Also I'm assuming unless it's a game breaking bug they don't stop all progress towards future builds to tackle a few ctds ...

This is their process as far as I can tell , if there's small bugs or ctds for a MINORITY of people like there is now, then the programming team works on fixing them while also working on the next to do on their list to get the next exp branch up and running .. If it was game breaking like when the vehicles first were implemented and EVERYONE crashed constantly , then they (programmers only) would definitely stop working on exp and put the whole team of programmers to work on the bugs , but of course there's still designers/artists , and a slew of other jobs still working on the newest exp branch (or at least future content) regardless of if there's a game breaking bug because that's just not their area of expertise...

So IMO they are almost always working on a new experimental , and they did mention that .52 and .53 were going to be mainly bug fixes so People like" the baddest ass " an 1337 can stop worrying about some conspiracy going on , as we all know SOME people are crashing but it's not the majority like they've expressed many a times in this discussion :P !

[RosscoMac 75]

Believing something over one post isn't a good habit to get into .. Also I'm assuming unless it's a game breaking bug they don't stop all progress towards future builds to tackle a few ctds ...This is their process as far as I can tell , if there's small bugs or ctds for a MINORITY of people like there is now, then the programming team works on fixing them while also working on the next to do on their list to get the next exp branch up and running .. If it was game breaking like when the vehicles first were implemented and EVERYONE crashed constantly , then they (programmers only) would definitely stop working on exp and put the whole team of programmers to work on the bugs , but of course there's still designers/artists , and a slew of other jobs still working on the newest exp branch (or at least future content) regardless of if there's a game breaking bug because that's just not their area of expertise...So IMO they are almost always working on a new experimental , and they did mention that .52 and .53 were going to be mainly bug fixes so People like" the baddest ass " an 1337 can stop worrying about some conspiracy going on , as we all know SOME people are crashing but it's not the majority like they've expressed many a times in this discussion :P !

Thank you for sharing your knowledge and the wonderful lesson in what habits not to get into. You have changed my life.

Get over yourself.

[thebaddestass 23]

 ctds for a MINORITY of people like there is now,

 

People like" the baddest ass " an 1337 can stop worrying about some conspiracy going on , as we all know SOME people are crashing but it's not the majority like they've expressed many a times in this discussion :P !

 

:facepalm:   smh

 

The words you put in peoples mouths....

Edited December 12, 2014 by TheBaddestAss

[Tatanko 5591]

Thank you for sharing your knowledge and the wonderful lesson in what habits not to get into. You have changed my life.

Get over yourself.

We're discussing a game that's not even in beta yet. Take a chill pill.

 

:facepalm:   smh

 

The words you put in peoples mouths....you act just like the "kids" that you call "kids"  Probably the same age as them as well.

Your username is "TheBaddestAss". You really have no room to shake your head at anyone.

[RosscoMac 75]

We're discussing a game that's not even in beta yet. Take a chill pill.

What are you even talking about? I know the game is alpha and I'm quite relaxed thank you very much. :S

[thebaddestass 23]

We're discussing a game that's not even in beta yet. Take a chill pill.

 

Your username is "TheBaddestAss". You really have no room to shake your head at anyone.

 

You really want to turn this into a bashing session?  Cause after the months of reading this forum, I have lots to say about your character and how you present yourself with the posts on the forum to back them up.  Those who live in glass houses, shouldn't throw stones.  

 

But if you would like, I can bash with the best of them (especially when you already laid all the evidence out here for me to quote) so just let me know if this is really the shit you want to start.

 

"Some folks you just can't reach"

Edited December 12, 2014 by TheBaddestAss

[Tatanko 5591]

You really want to turn this into a bashing session?  Cause after the months of reading this forum, I have lots to say about your character and how you present yourself with the posts on the forum to back them up.  Those who live in glass houses, shouldn't throw stones.  

 

But if you would like, I can bash with the best of them (especially when you already laid all the evidence out here for me to quote) so just let me know if this is really the shit you want to start.

 

"Some folks you just can't reach"

Go for it. See where it gets you. It's a little creepy that you're stalking me, though, just sayin'.

Edited December 12, 2014 by Tatanko

[thebaddestass 23]

Go for it. See where it gets you. It's a little creepy that you're stalking me, though, just sayin'.

 

You already started it with your smart ass comment above.  And it isn't stalking, it's called reading the forums and when someone acts and responds the way you do at times, it's quite obvious what your character is.

 

I came here to post about how CTD's are a majority for people in the game and for all to see that it is an issue with this patch.  After the months of reading this forum I should have know that the kiddie trolls would come out soon enough.

 

"The youth of America......."

Edited December 12, 2014 by TheBaddestAss

[blackberrygoo 1416]

You already started it with your smart ass comment above. And it isn't stalking, it's called reading the forums and when someone acts and responds the way you do at times, it's quite obvious what your character is.

I came here to post about how CTD's are a majority for people in the game and for all to see that it is an issue with this patch. After the months of reading this forum I should have know that the kiddie trolls would come out soon enough.

"The youth of America......."

No , you came here to start shit with people who don't agree with you ... "I came here to post about the ctds and how thy are an issue for the majority of player " LOL are you and your ten people that have had the same problem the majority of one million people ? Get real buddy , and just face the facts that you are impatient, and incredibly ignorant if you think that picking battles with the "kiddie trolls" is going to help you ... Are you trying to be some hero to the many asshole trolls who think this game is shit ? Take a look at your own comments buddy , Tatanko didn't do shit except for defending his view point , the view point shared by the REAL MAJORITY of these forums and that opinion is : the game is fine and you're just here to BITCH ... So please drag up all the "evidence" supporting Tatanko being unproductive , hell do it for me cuz I guarantee you you will find nothing but highly researched or experienced evidence based off a number of things and not just "boo hoo my game crashed and so did my friends , this game is broken " grow up and stop throwing around insults to get your point across "baddest ass" .

[Tatanko 5591]

Goosfraba. Gooooossfraaabaaa.

[The Riddler (DayZ) 410]

I am getting CTD each time I exit the game, whether it be a server restart or simply trying to exit back to the main menu. 

 

I have not had an issue with CTD mid game. If we're on the right track here that this is possibly a server side issue, then maybe that explains why I don't CTD mid game, but I have had other's on my TS mention they do.

 

I have an above average internet connection (fiber) and my server is physically 3 1/2 hours by car, north of me so my ping is low (teens). The one's that have complained of CTD midgame are not within the same state of the server and don't have a fiber connection. Possibly something to do with it??? I dunno, but thought I'd mention my experience. I keep waiting for it to happen on my own server, but guess I could try it on another server where my ping is higher....... 

 

Stay safe out there this weekend survivors  ;)  :beans:

[☣BioHaze☣ 7337]

I had no CTD's today but a lot of slowdown/frame drops in Novo.

 

My old video card handled some large cities much better (with some stripped down settings though).

 

More than a few zombies for shooting in Novo.

 

Considering my gear I decided to just run through, gunning zombies as I went. (Longhorn, Repeater, Sawn-Off)

 

A mil-zombie tagged me so I retreated into a blue door warehouse.

 

Immediately following the bandage animation I must have desynched/glitched and fell through the floor while kneeling which only broke my leg and didn't outright kill me.

 

I took 1 of my 2 morphine out and fixed myself up but had ruined all clothes from the waist down.

 

DayZ was fun today but I often dream of the new renderer, and higher zombie counts, and the rest of the medical/survival stuff that will one day be in the game....

 

!HAPPY HOLIDAYZ!

[thebaddestass 23]

I am getting CTD each time I exit the game, whether it be a server restart or simply trying to exit back to the main menu. 

 

I have not had an issue with CTD mid game. If we're on the right track here that this is possibly a server side issue, then maybe that explains why I don't CTD mid game, but I have had other's on my TS mention they do.

 

I have an above average internet connection (fiber) and my server is physically 3 1/2 hours by car, north of me so my ping is low (teens). The one's that have complained of CTD midgame are not within the same state of the server and don't have a fiber connection. Possibly something to do with it??? I dunno, but thought I'd mention my experience. I keep waiting for it to happen on my own server, but guess I could try it on another server where my ping is higher....... 

 

Stay safe out there this weekend survivors  ;)  :beans:

 

Now back on topic....

 

I have a 70MB connection so I don't see lack of bandwidth causing the issue although I don't have a ping in the teens it is generally no more than 40-50.  But we shall see.  Hopefully it will be fixed in the next couple of updates.

 

Also I broke my leg twice last night on the 3rd floor of a house.  Same house, nothing crazy, just randomly broke it.  And last week it happened on the 2nd floor of the fire station.  So that bug still exists.

Edited December 12, 2014 by TheBaddestAss