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Can we get one? I really, really don't get why a magazine-required 7.62x39 carbine can't mount a Long Range Scope.

 

I have a "30 Russian" carbine that is practically the same damn thing as the CR527. The same exact magazine, caliber, even the same kind of wood. Guess what? It has a scope on it, one nearly identical to the Long Range Scope.

 

If the Mosin can fit the scope, which isn't realistic at all, the CR527 should be able to.

 

Whats the worry? "Too many sniper rifles"? Oh, come the fuck on.

 

Most of what you would find across a countryside like Chernarus would be hunting rifles and shotguns. Guess what you normally get on your rifle? A scope. Does a scope make it a magical super accurate dead-eye one-shot across the map killa'? No.

 

This fear of scopes perplexes me.

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Chris Torchia tweeted something about scopes, but no details. CZ527 should get at least 4x scope.

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In all words he is right in the spot. CR 527 is not that powerful and it should be able to mount the LRS because its useless without it.

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The same exact magazine, caliber, even the same kind of wood. Guess what? It has a scope on it, one nearly identical to the Long Range Scope.

 

This fear of scopes perplexes me.

Plus the gun is built off of a Mauser design, which most Mauser rifles can mount scopes.

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==>Blaze 95

 

 

*roy sitting in the corner being angry*

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Removing the LRS from the Mosin and granting the CR527 the ability to mount it would do loads for gameplay. For one, it would make choosing between a Mosin-PU and a CR527-LRS a real choice. BUT, the movement speed needs to be lowered first if a7.62x39 bolt action rifle is going to be effective. The damage model is different from the mod, so follow up shots are likely needed to land the kill on a moving target.

Can't wait for the day when I can roll with a scoped CR527 and an AKS74U in my pack. It will be a glorious day indeed.

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Thought it was known one is already in the works just but in yet.

Personally hope it was delayed due to the devs realizing the improvements mil/moa turrets.

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Whenever I find a magazine for CR527 I tend to go look for the weapon itself as I love it, a scope would really be a nice bonus :)

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Removing the LRS from the Mosin and granting the CR527 the ability to mount it would do loads for gameplay. For one, it would make choosing between a Mosin-PU and a CR527-LRS a real choice. BUT, the movement speed needs to be lowered first if a7.62x39 bolt action rifle is going to be effective. The damage model is different from the mod, so follow up shots are likely needed to land the kill on a moving target.

Can't wait for the day when I can roll with a scoped CR527 and an AKS74U in my pack. It will be a glorious day indeed.

I believe the lrs mosin removal was also in the works.

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I'd like to see the transition of Mosin PU vs. LRS CR527 as well. The CR527 seems so much more difficult to find and has more difficult rounds to find so making it "the" sniper rifle would really balance out the whole idea of "too many snipers." Granted I don't run into "too many snipers" myself, but I'd rather see the balance of choosing one gun for another rather than NEVER picking up the CR527. I honestly have come across like two or three clips in my gameplay (not looking) and thusly have absolutely no incentive to use the thing. 

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Hell, Maybe even add a scope that the CR527 can only mount

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I found 2 mags and lots of ammo but next day server owners put password on and I can't play with that character any more! 

Would LRS work on CR527? Shorter barell and less powerfull round than Mosin... I dont think so. 

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Hell, Maybe even add a scope that the CR527 can only mount

off topic, love the signature man.

but yes, a hunting rifle is in the game files. its been leaked a while back. cant wait for the cr scoped. would give me an incentive to pick the useless piece of crap up when i have no gun. and honeslty, with a pu scope the gun wouldnt be so bad. neevr really gave it a chance to be honest. might go pick one up soon and use it as my primary for a while. 

would also like to see a pu scope or similar style scope for the blaze. would be a decent rifle with a scope, too

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Raging about placeholders..... such class.  They put in guns, they put in scopes, they gave you things to be elite snipers with.  These things are there so people can do shit until they put the game together.

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Raging about placeholders..... such class.  They put in guns, they put in scopes, they gave you things to be elite snipers with.  These things are there so people can do shit until they put the game together.

 

God. You contribute nothing to threads, ever. Its like your sole purpose on this forum is to come up with excuses and derail discussion because of his current state.

 

Please, only reply if you have something to say that isn't absolute bullshit spewing out of your mouth.

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God. You contribute nothing to threads, ever. Its like your sole purpose on this forum is to come up with excuses and derail discussion because of his current state.

 

Please, only reply if you have something to say that isn't absolute bullshit spewing out of your mouth.

make a thread that isn't covered with froth and saliva. You're butthurt about placeholders and it's showing in your rage

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I am less worried about the CR527s lack of scope and more about its lack of magazines

Does a scope make it a magical super accurate dead-eye one-shot across the map killa'?

In DayZ its this in spades. Why? Because mounting a scope does increase the accuracy of your weapon. Same for other attachments which has the effect that every weapon with detachable handguard/buttstock that can mount a scope is way more accurate than a weapon with fixed stock and no/fixed scope.

 

The AUG is the best example - its basically a M4 clone in values but everything is fixed so it ends up being much less accurate.

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I am less worried about the CR527s lack of scope and more about its lack of magazines

In DayZ its this in spades. Why? Because mounting a scope does increase the accuracy of your weapon. Same for other attachments which has the effect that every weapon with detachable handguard/buttstock that can mount a scope is way more accurate than a weapon with fixed stock and no/fixed scope.

 

The AUG is the best example - its basically a M4 clone in values but everything is fixed so it ends up being much less accurate.

I have not even found the AUG yet. Does it spawn normally in military and police spots or is it that gimmicky crashed chopper crap?

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I am less worried about the CR527s lack of scope and more about its lack of magazines

In DayZ its this in spades. Why? Because mounting a scope does increase the accuracy of your weapon. Same for other attachments which has the effect that every weapon with detachable handguard/buttstock that can mount a scope is way more accurate than a weapon with fixed stock and no/fixed scope.

 

The AUG is the best example - its basically a M4 clone in values but everything is fixed so it ends up being much less accurate.

 

The AUG has its benefits, And saying that its much less accurate is just plain wrong, At most engagement ranges you're going to see with an m4 magpul stocks and foregrips do not make a noticeable difference, sure youcan stick an acog on it and turn it into a 'sniper rifle' But the 556 round does not kill in a single shot, And i dont think it kills in two if the player is healthy and was wearing pristine gear, Making the benefits of doing that dubious as the only point where you would need an acog is 400-600 metres and at that point the m4 simply isnt accurate enough to be worth using when you combine it with the relatively low powered round, The aug on the other hand has a 1.5 magnification sight something the m4 cant get and accuracy at medium ranges is not an issue if you're actually aiming center mass standing still and not out of breath, The added benefit of this scope is that it is very unobtrusive and you're still fully capable in close quarters with it.

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The AUG has its benefits, And saying that its much less accurate is just plain wrong

The first part is true - that scope gives you an situational advantage. But as a fixed weapon part it does not decrease dispersion.

 

The AUGs reliabe range is ~300m (0.0015 dispersion value).

The M4s reliable range is ~360m (0.00125 dispersion value) with the CQB stock.

The M4s reliable range is ~460m (0.000975 dispersion value) with Magpul parts and ACOG optics.

The M4s reliable range is ~420m (0.001075 dispersion value) with Magpul handguard, CQB stockj and ACOG optics.

 

So saying that saying that the AUG is much less accuracte is just plain wrong is just plain wrong.

 

The CR527 also suffers from this by not having any attachment but its main issue is the relatively rare and small magazine and the SKS having a bigger internal one as well as being semi-automatic. Compared to the SKS the CR527 falls short in all but dexterity. And even here the advanatge is only minor and mitigated by the SKS' much higher rate of fire. Add to this the relatively rare ammo and you can see why the CR527 cannot compete.

 

Now by removing the Longrange Scope from the Mosin and adding it to the CR527 it would at least get a niche role (while still being less accurate than Mosin, Repeater and Blaze).

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Realistically the M4 should be able to mount the long range scope, it wouldn't be that useful but it would be cool.

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I'd like the LRS to be mountable on the CR527. Mosin should only be able to mount the PU scope. I imagine the Mosin is more of a placeholder sniper for now, though.

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Plus the gun is built off of a Mauser design, which most Mauser rifles can mount scopes.

Uh, beg to differ, this is the real one, the CZ 527, with a scope mounted..

 

http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-527-carbine-223-rem-5-rd-mag/

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Every 527 actually has dove tails for a scope, just let us pull the sope off the single shot pistol and re zero it.

The reload animation for the 527 is kind of flaky too, it goes through the whole motion then does and extra cycle of the bolt. And you should be able to have one in the pipe and 5 in the mag.

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