Experimental Branch: 0.51 Discussion

[Seitan (DayZ) 36]

No message received... 69 seconds... connection with host is lost... 69 seconds... play 10 mins... no message received... 69 seconds.

Oh here we go again. Waiting for the next exp. update. :) Like the night time again thou. Was getting booring to play from from 10am to 12am on every stable branch server.

 

edit. nvm. finaly found working server.

Edited November 15, 2014 by Seitan

[a_ruttle 199]

Eating human meat cooked should give you a chance of being sick, just cos you know, not many people could stomach it mentally.

[Tatanko 5591]

That's because this is not the place to post about bugs, this is a discussion about the new experimental update and the things in it, which is what we are doing.

The poor guy is just looking for some assistance, it doesn't sound like he wants to have a full-on conversation about it. You are correct that he should check the bug tracker, though.

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

Where are SKS's spawning now?  I've gone all the way from Electro to Novo and still have not come across any.

[Wh1spY 110]

Where are SKS's spawning now?  I've gone all the way from Electro to Novo and still have not come across any.

Same places as before, weapons do however seem much more rare now. Except for shotguns and "Macaroni" guns!

 

Edited November 15, 2014 by Wh1spY

[odin_lowe 3686]

Where are SKS's spawning now?  I've gone all the way from Electro to Novo and still have not come across any.

Hmm, I often find them under the blue trailers scattered around the map, and in the small yellow houses where the weapon spawns. (in the corner between the bed and fireplace)  I have found quite afew there on exp.

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

Same places as before, weapons do however seem much more rare now. Except for shotguns and "Macaroni" guns!

 

 

Hmm, I often find them under the blue trailers scattered around the map, and in the small yellow houses where the weapon spawns. (in the corner between the bed and fireplace)  I have found quite afew there on exp.

Well goddamn, searched all the usual spots and can't find one for the life of me

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

Well, I can definitely say that the experimental version blows the stable one out of the water.  Very little restarts, runs smooth, loot isn't disproportionate, 50 man servers with a couple of 60's(when they're working :P).  I am not sure why they cut down the number of infected tho but meh, I'm digging it except for not finding a goddamn SKS!!!! 

 

Oh, lack of 1pp servers is very disappointing but this proves that 1pp is dying and the devs don't really give a shit about it.

Edited November 16, 2014 by Caboose187

[Tatanko 5591]

Oh, lack of 1pp servers is very disappointing but this proves that 1pp is dying and the devs don't really give a shit about it.

Saying that may be a bit hasty. We don't really know what their motives are, or if it was even intentional (sure seems to be, though). I don't play 1st Person myself, but I'm not calling for its death either.

[Rhygar666 26]

Saying that may be a bit hasty. We don't really know what their motives are, or if it was even intentional (sure seems to be, though). I don't play 1st Person myself, but I'm not calling for its death either.

i dont think so, i asked during the dev stream on friday and Hicks answered that he gets First Person online after the Stream, but apparently he forgot.

[Gubbjeveln 18]

Where are SKS's spawning now?  I've gone all the way from Electro to Novo and still have not come across any.

 

 

Well, I can definitely say that the experimental version blows the stable one out of the water.  Very little restarts, runs smooth, loot isn't disproportionate, 50 man servers with a couple of 60's(when they're working :P).  I am not sure why they cut down the number of infected tho but meh, I'm digging it except for not finding a goddamn SKS!!!! 

 

Oh, lack of 1pp servers is very disappointing but this proves that 1pp is dying and the devs don't really give a shit about it.

I walked from the coast across the map to the far NW yesterday. SKS and weapons seemed to spawn where they used to (I never went to military places though) had issues to find ammo, mostly shotgun and .22, so I travelled with a shotgun but changed it to my favourite the Mosin as soon as I found ammo for it. I found several magazines for the so hated CR hunting rifle but no rifle.

 

Found several Longhorns, threw them all out in the fields.

 

About infected, there where plenty enough of them, only not in places I am used to. It might be so that there was one or two survivers ahead of me following almost the same path and they lured tham Z´s into spots not normally habitated by them.

 

Nice and shocking to run into four civilian and one military in the middle of a forests dirtroad. I lke this. Usually I fiddle with other things when doing longer transfers and this woke me up for sure.

 

Some locations was littered with loot, this was closer to the coast, then it was more normal inland. Three times i got those red letters no connection for xx seconds, this was the only thing that ruined my experience. I even spoke to two guys who where fullkitted and they did not shoot me. :o

 

Alltogether exp is stable. Now to start searching for and testing what´s new. (exept cannibalism, it does not appeal me)

Edited November 16, 2014 by Gubbjeveln

[lauri7x3 100]

the monster loot places are rly funny. but i hope they will get fixed in stable

[d0pesen 17]

got an awesome run yesterday on experimental. met nowbody, but geared up in a such satisfaction way that i really enjoined the 3 hours.

 

all ended with broken legs (broke them steps down, but was okay, my fault) in a middle of an airfield and 8 bullets in my makarov, the second zombie killed me, the last thing i heared was my makarov clicking empty with no bullets inside... so awesome lying on the ground an shoot zombies.

 

next time as a lonely wolf i need to care more about wooden sticks to fix eventually broken legs by myself.

 

:D

Edited November 16, 2014 by d0pesen

[durzos 23]

"Because moral punishment", right? You can only contract kreutzfeldt-jacobs disease from eating human brain and kuru if you eat contaminated human flesh, but for that you should be in Papua new-Guinea and go back in time about thirty years because that's when the last known person died of it. Otherwise human meat works basically like any other meat, you can catch all kinds of diseases if you eat it raw.

 

It's realistic.

 

Realistic? We are supposedly living in a post apocalyptic area where the majority of the population are dead or turned into mindless zombies by an unknown disease / virus. Who on earth knows what the result of eating meat that has been exposed to that and lived may be.

 

If canabalism is bought into the game permanently then there should be (in my opinion) a HUGE draw back to it, that could very well take the form of a secondary disease / infection from eating said meat.

[anotherdeadhero 71]

Realistic? We are supposedly living in a post apocalyptic area where the majority of the population are dead or turned into mindless zombies by an unknown disease / virus. Who on earth knows what the result of eating meat that has been exposed to that and lived may be.

 

If canabalism is bought into the game permanently then there should be (in my opinion) a HUGE draw back to it, that could very well take the form of a secondary disease / infection from eating said meat.

Maybe so but not if it's just some made up disease, 'Oh here is madeuparitus because you know, eating humans'. Let's not invent diseases and infections with made up names just to punish a certain play style because you disagree with it.

 

I think if it has some kind of mental affect on the player like what they already have where your character has laughing and crying fits on his own every five or ten minutes, it would throw stealth out the window, example you are sneaking up to the jail and he just starts laughing hysterically or say you are talking to someone who does not know what you are yet and then you start crying hysterically, they will know you are a cannibal and they will treat you as such, i think the laughing and crying is a perfect drawback to cannibalism imho.

[Zboub le météor 250]

 

Oh, lack of 1pp servers is very disappointing but this proves that 1pp is dying and the devs don't really give a shit about it.

i hope you are wrong, because i don't know if i'll continue to play if they dish 1st person servers.

[skoms 86]

Maybe so but not if it's just some made up disease, 'Oh here is madeuparitus because you know, eating humans'. Let's not invent diseases and infections with made up names just to punish a certain play style because you disagree with it.

 

I think if it has some kind of mental affect on the player like what they already have where your character has laughing and crying fits on his own every five or ten minutes, it would throw stealth out the window, example you are sneaking up to the jail and he just starts laughing hysterically or say you are talking to someone who does not know what you are yet and then you start crying hysterically, they will know you are a cannibal and they will treat you as such, i think the laughing and crying is a perfect drawback to cannibalism imho.

 

But you would not loose control over yourself in a way that makes you just start laughing and crying hysterically for no reason what so ever in real life if you ate some human meat. So these symptoms are just as unreal as any made up diseases. Yes, if you eat humans you are a very crazy person, but its a completely different kind of crazy then those who laugh and cry without any control over themselves. There is no link between cannibalism and that kind of crazy.

 

Laughing and crying effects would also be a made up "disease" that will just be in the game to punish certain type of players. I see no different in a made up disease and this made up mental affects.

[Tatanko 5591]

Maybe so but not if it's just some made up disease, 'Oh here is madeuparitus because you know, eating humans'. Let's not invent diseases and infections with made up names just to punish a certain play style because you disagree with it.

It's not about disagreeing with a playstyle, it's about not encouraging a particular method that may change the game in a negative way for everyone.

 

I'll say it again because no one seems to understand: YOUR choices don't ONLY affect YOU.

 

I'm not calling for the removal of it, there just needs to be disadvantages to choosing that method or it will become the preferred way of obtaining food and encourage KoS. If you think people whine about KoS now, it will only get tenfold worse when literally everyone is doing it because they have no other choice. That ruins in the game, in my opinion. All methods of survival should be equally encouraged, and not having any consequences for cannibalism encourages it above all other methods.

[Scarcifer 102]

It's not about disagreeing with a playstyle, it's about not encouraging a particular method that may change the game in a negative way for everyone.

 

I'll say it again because no one seems to understand: YOUR choices don't ONLY affect YOU.

 

I'm not calling for the removal of it, there just needs to be disadvantages to choosing that method or it will become the preferred way of obtaining food and encourage KoS. If you think people whine about KoS now, it will only get tenfold worse when literally everyone is doing it because they have no other choice. That ruins in the game, in my opinion. All methods of survival should be equally encouraged, and not having any consequences for cannibalism encourages it above all other methods.

I agree and concur with your statement sir.

[a_ruttle 199]

I'm not calling for the removal of it, there just needs to be disadvantages to choosing that method or it will become the preferred way of obtaining food and encourage KoS. If you think people whine about KoS now, it will only get tenfold worse when literally everyone is doing it because they have no other choice. That ruins in the game, in my opinion. All methods of survival should be equally encouraged, and not having any consequences for cannibalism encourages it above all other methods.

Made all the worse by the fact that with cannibalism fresh spawns now yield more than just a pair of runners, a ruined battery and a ruined t shirt.

[RevolutionaryE 12]

Where are SKS's spawning now?  I've gone all the way from Electro to Novo and still have not come across any.

 

If you need an SKS, I would suggest looking near tanks.  In my experience, I dont find many tanks, that dont have a few SKSs nearby. 

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

If you need an SKS, I would suggest looking near tanks.  In my experience, I dont find many tanks, that dont have a few SKSs nearby. 

Finally found one after my friend logged on.  Now I just need a non damaged scope  <_<

[odin_lowe 3686]

i hope you are wrong, because i don't know if i'll continue to play if they dish 1st person servers.

They will never disappear completely as the private shards lets you choose between 1PP and 3PP when renting them. Removing the 1PP completely isn't in the interests of BI and won't happen. (I'm pretty sure of it.)

[jubeidok 495]

To the cannibals I say...

 

I eat food out of dirty toilets, I dare you to eat my flesh!

[Evil Minion 943]

I think cannibalism should always have a small chance of causing Kuru - a bigger one when eating raw meat (<=20%) and a smaller one when eating cooked or burned meat (<=5%). If the victim already had Kuru the chances should be much higher (like 100% chance on raw meat and 70% chance on cooked/burned meat). Also there should be a chance to catch other types of infections carried by the victim (so if the victim has the cold the cannibal might have good chances of catching the cold as well).

They will never disappear completely as the private shards lets you choose between 1PP and 3PP when renting them. Removing the 1PP completely isn't in the interests of BI and won't happen. (I'm pretty sure of it.)

Public first person servers would not be needed if the peeking was removed (by adding something like a fog of war) because then it would really be a matter of preference and the existence of the third person view would not mess up gameplay. This means the hives could be combined resulting in a bigger loot economy.

 

Private shards should be able to do as they please: First person only, third person only, both options, fog of war, no fog of war, third person limited to shoulder view etc.