I hate bambi

[100ftjesus 26]

how come you cant eat worms, hu?.. I had a hoe..

 

You can eat worms.

I did.

I got sick. 

I wouldn't recommend them...

 

Nice post, beans.

[kypkalorian 2]

Implement death penalty before 1 hour:

 

Bandits enjoy killing newspawns near beach even more. LOL

[Mookie (original) 799]

Whoever said that your spawn time should be relevant to how long your previous life was is a genius.

 

Mmm. Bit worried about how the ratios work at the long-lived end of this. But then I guess the people you're trying to incentivise are the short-lived...

[Grundlesmuggler 41]

Mmm. Bit worried about how the ratios work at the long-lived end of this. But then I guess the people you're trying to incentivise are the short-lived...

Yes.  Someone else can work out the ratios for the long lived which, I could honestly care less what they would be.  But a longer spawn time for shorter life spans would directly impact the way a fresh spawn plays.  No more kill yourself and respawn a bunch of times to get your loot back.  As realistic as it will get in a game would be to respawn wherever you are and try to make it back to your body. 

[General Zod 1118]

I hate them because they break the game immersion 

I hate people who keep on saying immersion this, immersion that.

 

For example if you die you've to wait 30 minutes instead of 30 seconds before respawn. 

 

Died to a bug ? Glitch ? Hacker ? Killer ? 

Well you better take a 30 minute compulsory break from the game. What's that ? You have other things to do and can't take 30 minute breaks every time you die ? Oh well too fucking bad you filthy casual. This game isn't supposed to be fun, you immersion breaking scum. 

Edited October 28, 2014 by General Zod

[Deathlove 2286]

how come you cant eat worms, hu?.. I had a hoe..

 

You can eat worms.

I did.

I got sick. 

I wouldn't recommend them...

 

Nice post, beans.

You don't normally get sick off the first worm you eat. It takes like 2 or 3 before you get to that effect.

[UltimateGentleman 355]

Im afraid I dont get the relevance of saying KoS behaviour is just as unrealistic compared to the unrealistic bambi behaviour. They are both unrealistic behaviour in a real world apocalyptic scenario. But I was talking about mediating the careless bambie behaviour based on the argument that its unrealistic...I dont get the relvance of saying "but KoS is just as unrealistic", does this make careless bambie behaviour less unrealistic, or more?? Are u saying since KoS behaviour is unrealistic, its okey we have unrealistic bambie behaviour too?

 

Or did Whyherro123 bring in another nonrelevant far-fetched argument like he always do?

No I'm saying that bami behaviour is a by-product of KOS, of course there probably were a few crazy players to begin with messing around but at this point everyone you see, pretty much, is going to shoot you and now that everyone has turbo mode it's almost impossible to escape.

Least you can do is annoy them before they kill you.

[Quijibo 6]

What do you expect? You were running along the coast, decently geared, and he had nothing-to-little to lose attacking you.

 

I like the "30 minute timeout on dying" idea. It adds a little bit of permanence and effect to death. That, or you get locked out of that specific server for 30 minutes. 

I love the idea of getting kicked from a server for thirty minutes on death, but having to wait thirty minutes to spawn? Who would play this game if they were forced to wait thirty minutes between playing? People that are being dicks for no reason other than they have nothing to lose should be kos, plain and simple.

[Quijibo 6]

I'm not saying they don't kill anyone else. I'm saying that as soon as they're geared up they don't run around other players screaming in the mic using only their fists because at that point they've something to lose behaving like that. That's my point.

So if "they are crazy" (as a character in the game) they should remain crazy and behaving in a crazy way after been geared up. If not then they are just new spawn who don't have anything to lose. They try to knock down an armed guy because the worst that could happen to them is that they will respawn in 30 seconds somewhere else (probably on the coast) and they will try again.

So I'm suggesting to increase the spawn delay maybe proportionally to the time you played your previous life so if you try to kill yourself just because you're not near enough your friends you will think twice before doing it. Or because maybe you respawn too south or too east. What's the point in the random respawn point if you can kill yourself everytime until you are where you want to be ?

 

That's my point

The random respawn point is in place because in general that's the best way to handle respawning. If there were fixed locations for spawn it would just give griefers a new way to bother people. Having the respawn delay proportionately with the last life cycle is kind of bogus. WHat if I stay alive for a week straight? Should I have to wait a week to play again? A thirty second respawn delay is perfect, along with the random respawn point. Anything else would be unfair and too complicated to do any good for new spawns that need to learn a lesson or fully geared players that should have shot someone that was being a dick.

[exec85 11]

Yesterday I was was travelling from Cherno to Elektro and just wanted to pass the City and see if there is some Action.

When I came in a freshspawn was running straight to me and tried to kill me. BEfore I said "Hello, do you Need some Food or smth, can I help?"

 

So... I do not really like the shoot on sight behavior, I more like the role Play aspect in DAyZ. Unfortunately most of the community seems to handle the game like Call of Duty or whatever.

[tmbt 34]

The random respawn point is in place because in general that's the best way to handle respawning. If there were fixed locations for spawn it would just give griefers a new way to bother people. Having the respawn delay proportionately with the last life cycle is kind of bogus. WHat if I stay alive for a week straight? Should I have to wait a week to play again? A thirty second respawn delay is perfect, along with the random respawn point. Anything else would be unfair and too complicated to do any good for new spawns that need to learn a lesson or fully geared players that should have shot someone that was being a dick.

No, i'm saying the opposite. If your last life was 1 week you will respawn as usual (30 seconds). There should be a sort of penality if your last life was like 10 minutes because that usually means that you respawn in a place too far from where you wanted to be and killed yourself.

[tmbt 34]

I hate people who keep on saying immersion this, immersion that.

 

 

Died to a bug ? Glitch ? Hacker ? Killer ? 

Well you better take a 30 minute compulsory break from the game. What's that ? You have other things to do and can't take 30 minute breaks every time you die ? Oh well too fucking bad you filthy casual. This game isn't supposed to be fun, you immersion breaking scum. 

You can hate as much as you want but at least try to read all the thread before giving nonsense answer.

I'm talking about a 30 minutes delay ONLY IF a new respawn die after few minutes because that usually means that i killed himself to respawn in a different place on the map or i died because tryied to punch in the face an armed guy.

If you die after playing with the same character for hours there will be no delay.

 

And anyway i think you should moderate your language because saying someone else is a scum is not going to give you more power.

[General Zod 1118]

You mostly die as a fresh guy, if to what I mentioned than to a starvation, blood lost or thirst. 

And no I don't need to moderate my language, nor did I call you scum. 

As far as power goes you're the one trying to force things on people in the name of "immersion". 

Edited October 29, 2014 by General Zod

[Chaingunfighter 917]

There are a billion reasons why you die as a freshspawn, and yes, that includes "being a dick" and running up to geared players. There are, of course, many other reasons you can die - suicide to get a better spawn, starvation/thirst, zombies, bugs/glitches, other freshspawns, or by well-geared players roaming the coast for newspawns.

 

So, yes, it's "unrealistic" that people would run after well-equipped others (not inherently, but for the most part I see the point), but you'd honestly be making the game a million times more frustrating and giving more power to those who hunt fresh spawns.

 

You'd basically be encouraging people to hunt fresh spawns, something already common. Happened to spawn near Berezino? Eliminated by a clan before you could even get to the woods. Now you can wait thirty minutes and hope that it doesn't happen again.

No thanks.

 

At this point it's a well accepted risk that wandering near the coast will invariably result in hostile encounters from most other people. It's not like being attacked by fresh spawns is a huge problem, the only cases they'll win is if you were completely negligent, in which case you probably deserved to lose your gear.

[lrp1984 199]

You can hate as much as you want but at least try to read all the thread before giving nonsense answer.

I'm talking about a 30 minutes delay ONLY IF a new respawn die after few minutes because that usually means that i killed himself to respawn in a different place on the map or i died because tryied to punch in the face an armed guy.

If you die after playing with the same character for hours there will be no delay.

 

And anyway i think you should moderate your language because saying someone else is a scum is not going to give you more power.

 

To be honest, as much as you like to argue it, this will never be added to the game. Having to wait 30 minutes after death before you could play again would almost certainly lose a huge majority of the player base. Clans would stop bothering to rent servers, the server providers would lose money, and ultimately Bohemia would lose money.

 

The only time a developer would add a 30 minute respawn to a game would be if they then intended to add a game marketplace where you could pay $1.99 for an instant respawn.

 

But fear not, you can now play the game you want to play anyway. Pay the $75 a month for a private hive, add a lock to it, and play the game however you want with no other players. I've actually seen this already. A Server called "My Survival game", pop 1, locked. 

[therandomredstone 432]

You make a good point, all bambi's I've came across where pretty respectful, I said "backup before you get shot" in a calm, normal tone, they said "ok, sorry" I say are you hungry and if they are I drop them a can of food and we both are on our way, the situations are always different but they are the same pretty much, and they all say thanks and thanks for not killing me. But the annoying, realism-breaking losers you speak of. Need to be stopped..

 

 

Cheers!

[100ftjesus 26]

You don't normally get sick off the first worm you eat. It takes like 2 or 3 before you get to that effect.

 

Maybe so, but then again I found 6 worms on my first 'worm hunting' attempt.

Scoffed the lot.

Got sick.

I'm not eating them again...

[Boon (DayZ) 4]

Some people would be pretty crazy in an Apocalypse. Maybe his whole family and his pet dog just died horribly, and then all his friends were gunned down by geared up military strangers who also stole his clothes; and he meets you - a bunch of mean foreign hard-case dudes armed to the teeth, he know's hes going to die.. death will end his suffering mmaybe? Or he wants REVENGE on you bastards. That's immersion in the crazy hell of post-apoc central Europe for ya.. it's HELL in there - and whoever you meet = 50% are zombies and 30% are killers and 17% are mad and 3% hide out in the bushes and try to stay alive.

Man! It's wild and hairy. you know .. there are even fanatical christians and people who see ghosts, and military freaks who love to kill - just to watch the life leak out of the defenceles body (the only thing in those paramilitary cult heads is how many notches they have on their guns, dude.. incredible, aint it!). And then also the people who like to kill with spades and screwdrivers because they're crazy, starving and sadists too..but probably just because they like to push the screwdriver into someone's head .. and then we have the new cult religions, and also the really strange reporters from youtube (met them?) and probably CNN too, all of them clean out of their boxes..

 

BUT THAT'S  exactly the FUN of being a new spawn (you can be a new spawn and NOT a bambi, right? - like most new spawn)

You,.. suppose you're a poor newspawn -  you just lost all your heavy-heavy dude gear that you were so worried and stressed and serious about. You blew it and now you're in shock on the beach in your underwear... so .. what the hell.. ?

Unless you have a bunch of  geared up friends on chat, you stand a good chance of being killed between 1 and 15 times before you even find something to open a can of beanz with, or even to find a can of beans.. You die a lot.

 

So - You have FUN .. This is your chance. The probability is that the first thing after you spawn is, you die -  in one of 50 ways...SO you have nothing to loose except life, you can run unarmed into the middle of Berezino and hope you find a dead geared up dude to loot before you starve (for instance) if it don't work you die, and spawn again and try something different, maybe you'll meet a heroic medic player ?, Or maybe 5 pissed off zombies in the first house?  or you can read the bible to serious players until they go mad, or you can hold pagan sacrifices of goats.. you can do all the stuff that a guy with only one pair of shorts and two rags in the whole world can DO .. and do it in the middle of the apocalyptic death of the world too ! .. That's being a bambi. It's a very interesting part of the game.

 

Do you think maybe a Special Services wire garrote would be a good addtion to the game, together with Stealth  ?.. so a bambi could sneak up on a geared player and strangle him for his good loot before that player even knew he was dead? Or a bambi gang could run up and get 4 or 5 garottes round your neck before you could shoot more than 2 or them ? Or maybe we should just just have PLENTY of AXES and stacks of BIBLES on all the beaches for the newspawn - to give them a fair break in life ?

Or in DayZ do you prefer to always have the upper hand so you can always break their legs to punish them?

 

Why are you 'geared-up' dudes hanging around 'bambi' places anyway? Police patrol ? You like breaking bambi legs?  New spawn have nothing to loose, no gear, so they can do what they like. That's the fun of being a bambi and having a 10% chance of survival.. you can do anything..

 

Hey - try this - next time you meet a crazy newspawn, give them 2 cans of beans and a bottle of water, a can opener, an axe, a helmet, and an AK (with maybe only 50 rounds).. then give them a 1 minute start, and then you can all have a FAIR fight. Just drop that stuff right in the road for the new spawn and run off and hide (I mean - take up position). Fair play all round.

 

xx

[ianderson07@live.com 2]

Not everyone handles the apocalypse well... 

This

[StayAlive (DayZ) 169]

Well, i just give them some stuff and they mostly get out of the way. Have some distance

between you and the new spawn and you should be just fine from any kind of deadly punches/chops.