No one takes RP or Talk before shot serioust enough!

[Evil Minion 943]

Any ideas on how this problem can be solved?

Thats not a problem.

But a possible solution is not doing this:

Thats why i join server's that are specific made for ppl who arent maniacs with a gun.

Why? Because any kind of "enforced gameplay serves" is bad as the game lives from a mixture of different player types. You need both good and bad guys for a good experience. Now if you concentrate good guys on "friendly servers" you reduce the chance of meeting friendlies elsewhere. And if you concentrate bad guys on "PvP" servers you will get less villains elsewhere - resulting in a sharp drop of challenge. Note that the good guys are the ones losing here because you will find enough bad guys who intentionally join the "wrong" server for trolling purposes.

In short: "Friendly only" servers are a bad thing as they reduce friendliness ingame.

Edited July 25, 2014 by Evil Minion

[GuzMaan 9]

Server hosters can not make rules about how or whom people are allowed to engage on their server.

Look: http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/158966-dayz-standalone-server-hosting-rules-server-reporting/

 

Many server operators kindly ask their players not to KOS or inform them about their server being a RP server. It looks like they are aware, that they are not allowed to set such rules (which are not really enforcable anyway) and they hope for the players' kindness and human decency to follow their humble request.

 

It would not hurt anybody, to respect such a request, it is not like different minded players have no option to play the game in a different way on 99% of the other servers...

 

But I guess, to show that little bit of minimal respect for other play styles is too much asked for some.

 

EDIT: Yes, I'm completely aware, that my request is naive, but still... 

Edited July 25, 2014 by GuzMaan

[maninthewall 470]

Depending on what gear im looking for yes. Geared up is not 1 bandage + weap. Fully geared means ALL maps, one fully equiped main weapon and secondary, different cloths depending on role i play. Im not a serverjumper :).

Mosin, bandages, a scope, a radar cap and a hoodie is all ya need boy 

[smoq2 221]

Dayz has always been a Shot first, ask later game, which is why i join these " Safe servers " because i hate using 10+ hours to get great gear, and then just get shot for no reason. 

 

 

As everyone before in this thread already mentioned, rules of this game are very limited and they probably will stay so forever. At least in the official version and on official servers.

 

Here's a tip... (This comes from a typical KoS and clan player) The first thing we state when spotting another player is "geared" or "not geared/bambi". If the player appears to be the latter we either: kill him for the lulz / mess with him around and let him go / let him go.

 

However, if he has as much as a sporter he is put down asap.

 

So, the conclusion is... Don't be geared if you wish to talk to people. Your chances to play one life for additional few hours are much higher. :)

[Jex 1104]

These servers should not exist. There's your problem right there.

 

You cannot make rules that deviate from how the game is intended to be played. I understand that some people want to just play loot/friendship simulator 2014, however, playing with absolutely no threat of death is just plain boring. Interacting with other players should always be a risk, for positive or negative - that is DayZ.

 

Can't yet but will once the game is finished. You may find it boring, some people want to rp the experience and nothing ruins rp more than some cock KOS'ing. If they RP'd as bandits that would be fine I suppose but it takes more imagination and effort to join an RP server where you're effectively "acting" a role, at least I think that's what it's like. The fun comes from working together around zombies and acting out a persona - it's called immersion.

[PandaChef 15]

If you want a RP kind of server, find a group of people who share the same interest and together fund the server. Then post it on the Dayz forums and PM anyone who is interested with the PW.

[Max Planck 7174]

If you want a RP kind of server, find a group of people who share the same interest and together fund the server. Then post it on the Dayz forums and PM anyone who is interested with the PW.

 

Not possible, server would be taken down without a refund.

 

You read nothing posted after the OP, am I right?

[PandaChef 15]

Not possible, server would be taken down without a refund.

 

You read nothing posted after the OP, am I right?

I did, but I didn't realise that would extend to passworded servers.

[Max Planck 7174]

I did, but I didn't realise that would extend to passworded servers.

 

You are not allowed to password servers though...

[PandaChef 15]

You are not allowed to password servers though...

I swear i have seen a ton of servers with locks next to them?

[Max Planck 7174]

I swear i have seen a ton of servers with locks next to them?

 

Hmm... You are not thinking of the mod, are you?

If not, please report them.

[Grimey Rick 3417]

Hmm... You are not thinking of the mod, are you?

If not, please report them.

There's a 64 player passworded server that pops up in my server list from time to time. It's on stable branch. Some .uk server.

As far as not communicating before shooting people, lately I've been making my victims endure my impressions of various celebrities while leaving a bottle of disinfectant in the middle of the room. If they can't make it through my half hour presentation, they're perfectly welcome to guzzle it. The alternative is attacking me and being riddled with bullets.

I was always a fan of "choose your own adventure" books as a child, so I like to give my victims choices.

[MikeReverb 49]

I've run into the same "problem" Atilimus.

 

You can't force anyone to play a certain style, and I honestly wouldn't want someone to do so. The uncertainty about what someone will do in any given moment is part of the fun.

 

I used to talk first and shoot later, and I still do from time to time, but far more often I simply shoot, even if it's a Bambi that comes up to me.

 

Why? Because there have been several instances of a Bambi being a diversion to allow other people to sneak up behind me and kill me (I stream on Twitch, so this happens pretty often because of stream snipers).

 

So even when I hop onto servers that emphasize talk first, if I get the drop on someone, I will most likely just kill them. Again, I wasn't always like this, but experience has taught me to think of my survival first.

Edited July 25, 2014 by MikeReverb

[ld-airgrafix 403]

Its a zombie survival game, not collect pristine items game.

[hellcat420 212]

 Especially as that tacticool guy was me.

HAHAHAHAHA best ending to a story i have seen on here in awhile!

Edited July 26, 2014 by hellcat420

[omgwtfbbq (DayZ) 1069]

Last time I died I was fully geared with camo clothing, an SKS with PU scope and food/medical supplies in under an hour, without server hopping. Just go away from the coast. I actually have before and after pictures.

 

This is what I had when I got killed.

 

 

This is less than an hour later.

 

 

In that second picture I have a scoped Mosin but I'm also holding an SKS in my hands in-game.

 

No wonder you got shot

[LegitOldSchool 261]

No wonder you got shot

?

[Evaris 61]

?

the military gear / camo = auto KoS for some players apparently.

[soulfirez 901]

the military gear / camo = auto KoS for some players apparently.

Forget the camo he is carrying an sks with pu scope and has a mosin with a LRS on his back making him 1) a massive treasure chest to loot 2) being armed to the death usually(not always ) means out to kill people why have 2 primary guns a medium and long range if your playing the sweet friendly you dont need both for zeds.. Pretty much carry 2 rifles and your asking to be shot.. Cloths mean shit you dont kill people with cloths but all in all he is armed to go to war and then cries when the war comes to him ??

[LegitOldSchool 261]

I was only carrying an SKS when I got shot, the second pic is what I have RIGHT NOW. I'm carrying a second weapon to give it to a friend, I'm not going to war I never shot anyone before getting shot at EVER. It's not like it changes anything, I used to go around looking like this...

 

 

...and still get KOSed even though I was going out of my way to look like a hero. Bandits don't care what you look like or what gear you have, they just shoot.

 

 

 

 Cloths mean shit you dont kill people with cloths but all in all he is armed to go to war and then cries when the war comes to him ??

 Also where does it say I'm crying over gear? I was just saying that it took me less than an hour to gear up from being shot with the gear in the first pic and then having the gear in the second pic less than an hour after. I think you're mistaken me with OP.

Edited July 26, 2014 by EchoZeero

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

You cannot kill with kindness, use an axe.

[DeatHTaX 1217]

Server hosters can not make rules about how or whom people are allowed to engage on their server.

Look: http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/158966-dayz-standalone-server-hosting-rules-server-reporting/

 

I'm curious as to how many servers that break this rule are dealt with in any way, and how many are reported.

[Combine (DayZ) 247]

If you want player interaction in a more friendly way: Start talking from cover and / or with show of force. Most other cases you're gonna end up dead or shot at because some shithead (no offense, but I usually am on the other side of the barrel) shits his pants (probably literally) and immediately shoots, or because his prec. gear might be in danger.

 

Then again, if you run into each other face to face and armed that's usually how it's gonna happen. You don't have "hero" or "friendly" on your forehead and likewise you don't know if they have a big KOS or BANDIT on theirs.

 

If you're alone, try it from a safe place or avoid contact. Even then if contact is established you have no guarantee you won't get backstabbed. Really, the best way is to be with a (friendly) group that has mostly total control over the situation. Your mentality shouldn't be "Let's hold hands at a campfire!" but more like "We're gonna help the SHIT out of you under armed guard, then we both part ways in the other direction" (unless you happen to fit in somehow).

 

You gotta be a bit of a dick as hero, in my book. Being too trusting just gets you killed easily in this game. You might have luck, but more often you don't.

 

My rough guess is that the 80-20 rule might apply easily. About 80% of people you'll encounter, on average, will probably just shoot at you for no reason or backstab you if the opportunity presents itself. KOSers or Bandits. Then there's the 20% that actually try to stick with some form of hero mentality, and of course there's no telling when individual people get sick of that and start leaning to less friendly playstyles.

 

Then again, you kinda need all playstyles to make this game interesting. So in theory, no playstyle is wrong; it's just that the quantity and quality difference between those can be less than even.