To the "friendly" guy who killed me and took my MP5

[Evaris 61]

[Frothyboot18 46]

On the old mod, two guys camped stary and waited for me to leave, i had two briefcases on me so i couldnt risk it. I was at stary until the server restarted(1 hour of taunting and them calling me a pussy), next day, i logged on with a different name, spent a week of ass kissing them on the side chat. Finally, they offered to "team up". After a couple of missions, they took me to their base, and they bragged about their briefcases. And after a little "i dont believe you's" they opened up their safe then i sprayed them with an mk mod. Took 30 briefs, stole a chopper, destroyed the plot pole and satcheled the cars.

Lesson of the story? Even the friendliest guys has a motive...

[blowurselfup 54]

Alignment-wise I'm chaotic good.  I help out absolutely everyone I can. (neutral medic means I don't take sides in conflicts, nor do I consider myself a "hero")  I don't care if you're the scum of the earth or an angel, if I run into you, i'll offer to give you help, whether it be simple supplies or running an IV for you or the like.

 

As for why have a weapon?  I'm not a pacifist, I return fire if fired upon, however I do not take the first shot, unless I'm playing with friends and need to cover them for one reason or another. (in which case it's covering / suppressing fire.)

We have a similar play style B) In HC mode I travel around offering help to anyone who needs it. I do carry a weapon..for hunting and zombie slaying

[Mancomb 131]

Haha, you exert authority over others and expect them to expose themselves to a point of weakness for your own piece of mind?  I'd just hold my gun down and shoot you the first chance if you're all 'i don't trust you put away your gun' bs on me.  That said I'd need to think twice if you came up from behind.

But you probably get a few people to do this, and the true friendlies are probably more than willing to do your bidding.  Good job though if you can pull it off.

 

So you're saying that you'd pretend to be friendly and shoot me the first chance you got? That's exactly what I'm talking about, and what the OP is talking about as well; people who pretend to be nice and then kill you the first chance they get. This is exactly why I do that, because I've been murdered too many times because I let my guard down thinking someone really was friendly. Everyone I've ever encountered who was friendly and trying to help others did exactly what I do; they never let their guard down for a second while I was near them. I've tried letting people just carry their guns in their hands, but it's far too easy for them to just raise it and shoot you. At least if they put it away, then you have time to react if they try to pull it out again. I'm not saying that it always works, but, for me at least, it's better than the alternative.

[trev186 389]

Because of players like this I play lone wolf or only group up when I have gear I dont mind losing and even then I ditch them when they are not watching.

Very few people you can trust. I have only come accross two types of players I can trust

1. Those who I know IRL

2. Those I work out trade arrangements with on the forums (they could betray me but then they could never use the trading thread here to do another trade)

[Mullraugh 1151]

No, it was on the road from Berezino to Svetlojarsk. 

 

Wait.. I was there and I heard SKS shots but no returning fire. I turned around and checked it out and saw a guy running away from a body. I figured since there were no returning shots, the guy had KoSed so I shot him.. could I have avenged you? I didn't go over to check his body because I have everything I could possibly need and was down at the coast to help fresh spawn guys.

 

Anyways, never stop being friendly. There are too many people out there who are pathetic and weak-charactered who give in and become the very thing they hated the most, which is a bandit. Just keep on keeping on my friend.

Edited July 24, 2014 by mullraugh

[q.S Sachiel 470]

So you're saying that you'd pretend to be friendly and shoot me the first chance you got? That's exactly what I'm talking about, and what the OP is talking about as well; people who pretend to be nice and then kill you the first chance they get. This is exactly why I do that, because I've been murdered too many times because I let my guard down thinking someone really was friendly. Everyone I've ever encountered who was friendly and trying to help others did exactly what I do; they never let their guard down for a second while I was near them. I've tried letting people just carry their guns in their hands, but it's far too easy for them to just raise it and shoot you. At least if they put it away, then you have time to react if they try to pull it out again. I'm not saying that it always works, but, for me at least, it's better than the alternative.

No, i don't pretend to be friendly.  You're a threat if you're afraid of me and are telling me to disarm.  Just because I pick my engagements and wait for an opportunity to kill you doesn't make me friendly...

I'll calculate my odds and execute accordingly.  I'm just pointing out that you're the only one with a weapon in the hands in your scenario, meaning the other person needs to trust you with their lives while you refuse to do so to others.  Just an observation, but i'd be skeptical and murdery if you asked the same of me is all.

[Mancomb 131]

No, i don't pretend to be friendly.  You're a threat if you're afraid of me and are telling me to disarm.  Just because I pick my engagements and wait for an opportunity to kill you doesn't make me friendly...

I'll calculate my odds and execute accordingly.  I'm just pointing out that you're the only one with a weapon in the hands in your scenario, meaning the other person needs to trust you with their lives while you refuse to do so to others.  Just an observation, but i'd be skeptical and murdery if you asked the same of me is all.

 

I get it, but how do I know you wouldn't be skeptical and murdery regardless? It's not that I'm afraid, it's that I'm being cautious and keeping the situation within my control; once you lose control of the situation, you end up dead. At least, that's been my experience. I get that the situation would be rather one-sided, but that's how you survive, by not letting anyone get an advantage over you. The majority of the time that I let someone hold their weapon freely, they end up using it on me. Why continue to let that happen? Besides that, if you really are waiting for the opportunity to kill me, that gives me even more reason to keep my eye on you and make sure you remain unarmed. Also, I don't always keep my gun out around other people; only those that don't feel right to me for some reason, whether it be how they're acting, how they're talking, etc., because they're more likely to try to kill me otherwise. That's what these types of people look for, are others who are trusting enough to let their guard down too much and then BLAM! Black screen. If they comply, and seem ok after a short while, I'll usually put my gun away as a gesture of good faith. Not that that hasn't come back to bite me in the ass, but more often than not, those who comply are ok. And if I were a threat, you'd already be dead in that scenario; the fact that we would be conversing would mean I don't have any intention of trying to harm you, unless it's in self-defense. Unfortunately, unless I know you, I don't know if your intentions are the same; and even then it's a gamble.

[infiltrator 275]

The amount of people who are willing to believe others in dayz is staggering.

 

Case in point: I was on experimental, and had an SKS but no ammo. I caught a glimpse of a military-geared guy going in a shed near the Zelengorsk mil base. Had I had a loaded weapon, I would have probably just followed and killed him.

 

But I didn't. So I said (and meant) I was friendly. At that point, I'm pretty much ready to die, but it was experimental so I didn't really care. The guy not only replied he was friendly, but also said he needed to log off.. which he did, right in FRONT of me. So I waited for him to join back just to tell him how stupid that was.

 

I'm typically just someone looking to kill others, but when I state my intentions, I never lie. I couldn't tell you about others because if someone approached me and said he was friendly I would shoot him at the first thing that slightly unnerved me.

Edited July 24, 2014 by Infiltrator

[q.S Sachiel 470]

I get it ... it's a gamble.

Probably came off a bit strong.  I get that you're putting yourself more at risk.  You're right though, it's another strategy to survive. :)

[archone88 29]

Thanks for sharing your mistake. And nice to hear that you have decided to play a neutral role, the game needs more of you.

 

Im not going to say anything like "welcome to dayz" or other unnecessary commenting, like many smartkids already done.

But instead just give you an idea how I did in situations like this, in the mod.

 

Never ever allow anyone, to have their weapon drawn and facing you. 

Give a warning, and if they turn towards you, kill them. Them before you.

This only works in Hardcore though.

 

Being a medic is a real challenge, and was really fun at the same time. But as the game is right now, trying it is quite difficult.

[Etherimp 1323]

So.. This is a rage thread about being friendly and someone lying about friendly then jacking your shit?

I'm sorry, but, you lost at the game, this time.

 

I was a hero in the mod, and I have had a lot of "friendly" experienced on the Standalone, but one thing you never do is TRUST someone who "sounds panicky". Furthermore, listen to the sound of the persons voice.. If they sound prepubescent, just pop a cap in their head and move along. Hopefully they will quit the game and go back to Minecraft or COD or whatever other crap these 14 year olds come from. It's not unfriendly, seeing as with their lack of physical strength and survival skills, they won't survive outside of the home without their mother and father coddling them anyway, so you're just saving them from being eaten by wolves...really...if you think about it... you know?

 

Also, if they sound like a teenager, they are probably little pricks. Kill those fuckers too. In fact.. Unless someone has a gun pointed at your head and asks me to drop my weapon (has never happened.) or unless they are unarmed.... I don't give a shit what they sound like, I just don't trust them.

 

So .. lets recap:

 

 

-Squeeky voice -> End their suffering now.

-Teenagers -> Pricks, and deserve to die.

-Unarmed players -> Trust them but don't let them get close and keep your gun raised for a while.

-Players who hold you up -> Trust them, because unless you do something stupid, you'll probably make it out alive... or possibly with a tummy full of rotten bananas.. but it could be worse.

-Players who you hold up -> Trust them as long as they are unarmed/handcuffed.

[King Raptor 191]

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Lmao. You are so full of it.

 

Good way to never-ever have a positive social interaction in DayZ.

[scriptfactory 620]

Lmao. You are so full of it.

 

Good way to never-ever have a positive social interaction in DayZ.

 

It is the smartest and safest playstyle. It sucks to gear up for days/weeks and then lose your character because you decided to help someone. And this isn't some hypothetical situation, it is reality. If you help others in DayZ you are probably going to lose your character.

[Etherimp 1323]

Lmao. You are so full of it.

 

Good way to never-ever have a positive social interaction in DayZ.

 

 

I have positive social interactions all the time. I've also never been killed by a fresh spawn or backstabbed by someone and had my shit stolen.. So who's full of it?

[Etherimp 1323]

It is the smartest and safest playstyle. It sucks to gear up for days/weeks and then lose your character because you decided to help someone. And this isn't some hypothetical situation, it is reality. If you help others in DayZ you are probably going to lose your character.

 

 

There was some "humor" in my post, but in all seriousness, I DO help people and DO have social interactions, but I'm also not a pushover and will not hesitate to cap someone the second they think about betraying me.

[bonesnap 75]

Having played since DayzMod alpha, calling "friendly" is the oldest trick in the book.

 

No offense intended, but you should have known better. Well, on the bright side, this should serve as an excellent learning experience. XD

 

edit: P.S. I've been shot at first by hero-skinned players in DayzMod, without even having a bandit skin, so I literally trust no one except the crew I'm with.

Edited July 24, 2014 by bonesnap

[Mancomb 131]

edit: P.S. I've been shot at first by hero-skinned players in DayzMod, without even having a bandit skin, so I literally trust no one except the crew I'm with.

 

Which is exactly why being part of a group is one of the best ideas, so that you have someone to watch your back (as long as you watch theirs). Lone-wolfing it can be fun in its own right, but, at least for me, it's even more fun when you have buddies to roll with.

[Etherimp 1323]

Which is exactly why being part of a group is one of the best ideas, so that you have someone to watch your back (as long as you watch theirs). Lone-wolfing it can be fun in its own right, but, at least for me, it's even more fun when you have buddies to roll with.

The rules are different for lone wolves, I feel. If I come across another player as a lone wolf my options are limited compared to if I was with at least 1 friend. To minimize risk sometimes you have to make hard decisions, whether that's booking it or killing someone who was potentially friendly but acted questionable.

[escobert 112]

Sadly the way this game is played curently there is no incentive to even aporch anyone. If I see someone I usually just avoid them. 9/10 are going to kill you either now or 5 minutes from now.

[Zombie Milkman 167]

True story.  I am trying to raise my bottle to collect water in Berezino, can't do it.  I try to raise my weapon.  Can't do it.  I try raising anything - can't do it.  I think back to the safe haven cheat I read about right on this board and start having dialogue with *no one* about giving me a break, disabling their cheat, letting me drink, not worrying because I only have an axe and am so friendly I am not a threat anyway, etc.  Now I am on the top of the construction site south/east of the city, so I am exposed, and in prime looting area (I expect I will die.)  Well sure enough, this guy walks out of the stairwell with a gun, does not say a word, and then I see the text, "Here, here's some food and water, and a gun."  He gives me a Mosin, food, water, extra ammo, then leaves.  I say thank you.

 

Friendly lives babe!

Edited July 25, 2014 by Zombie Milkman

[escobert 112]

I've had that happen too. Two guys walked up offered me food water and ammo for my gun. As soon as I pushed tab to pick stuff up *You are Dead*

[NinjaTurkey 255]

Another dayz newbie got rekt. Lesson learned, I guess. This game isn't about trusting strangers. It is about paranoia and surviving when someone tries to act friendly, you blow his head off.

And thus another poor new player becomes a kos piece of shit, the cycle continues.

[Jex 1104]

Nice going with claiming friendly, (with a panicked tone behind it no less!) chatting with me for five minutes, then when things seemed like everything was alright, and you said you were having trouble hearing me, and I took a step forward like you asked?  Yeah nice job spraying me down with your SKS.  Doesn't matter now I suppose, that you found two medical bags in my backpack, and I explained that I play as a neutral medic, and was friendly.  Even after I was knocked unconscious by you, I was still nice, and said you were free to take what you want, all I asked is if you wouldn't mind using some of the medical supplies I had to patch me up, you didn't even have to do anything to make me wake up again.

 

 

But nope you decide it's more fun to just put a couple bullets in my head.  And right before you did you said to me "You can't trust strangers."  Yeah, well usually strangers who don't shoot you on sight aren't interested in shooting the moment I start going on my way peacefully.

 

 

Nice going murderer.  You are, in my opinion, the lowest of the low for players.  Hope you enjoy my MP5K.  I would have given it to you anyhow, had you asked.  You probably wouldn't have ruined my extra magazines you would have gotten otherwise if you did just ask.   

 

This is why I walk around with nothing but ruined backpacks filled with hammers. Yeah fucker, take a backpack full of hammers.

[Jex 1104]

Honestly, I wouldn't have minded to have been KoS'd.

 

I wouldn't have minded if he had left me for dead.

 

What annoys me are two things:  lying about being friendly, then laughing and shooting in my head after I was already no longer a threat and therefore killing me simply for the sake of killing me. 

 

You need to wear the brightest colours you can fine. Orange pants, yellow raincoat and red hard hat and red backpack. I wore this and was amazed at how many people spoke to me - I also wasn't carrying a weapon but supplies I could give away. When you tell people they can have everything you got killing you isn't that attractive anymore, mostly they're just stunned, For the assholes it's great when they shoot me because usually I'm far away from loot so the death just puts me back there again to grab it and I'm off helping again so it's win win.

 

When I play this style, I don't care when I get shot because each time it benefits me. They get my gear from my dead body and I get tp'd to an area near loot. Pisses them off when u start thanking them and telling them you'll be back soon with more gear if they want it.